B STUDENTS ARE FINE!!

[Anonymous]

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B and C students go to college, certainly.

They cost more to educate, unless you want to pay for community college then 2 years of state U, because they're not the ones getting merit aid.

Ironically, I don't think that's true. My B student is targeting "buyer" schools, where almost everyone gets merit money. Her college counselor expects that she'll get about $20,000. Her sibling will likely be competitive for one of the top schools that don't give merit to anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LISTEN UP! B students are fine! B students will go to college and be successful!! B students will receive scholarships!

Stop calling your kids that!

They are fine!

Signed-A B student who is now a pharmacist!

I agree, B's definately get degrees. But you would not get into pharmacy school now with a B avg in college. And yes you can get merit---if you go to a school where the avg gpa is 3.0 and sat is 1080 (and your kid is higher than that). But most kids who can only get B's in HS are not heading to medical school or pharmacy school in today's environment. My own kid who had a 3.5 in HS struggled in pre-med courses at a school ranked ~90.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody said they weren't "fine". But, it doesn't make sense to pay up the nose for an expensive college where the ROI isn't there.

-signed a parent of an A and B student

I don't think my kids need to "earn" my investment in them. My younger child is a stronger student than my older child, but they both deserve an equal share of what we're able to pay for college. If anything, the weaker student needs a smaller environment where she can more easily get to know professors. My stronger student would likely thrive in the larger environment of a big state university.

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I think you set yourself up for lifetime relationship issues/sibling tensions if you start saying one kid "deserves" more based on their academic achievements. Doesn't mean you have to spend the same on them--but the choice should be balancing between what suits their needs best and what you can afford.

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My "not as academic" student---3.5UW/1200/1 AP that they got their only grade lower than a B in HS in first semester (they got a D, really they got an F and teacher was nice) is a successful college grad from a T100 school with a 3.4in college, hired immediately at a great company, got a great first year review and over 10% raise. Their top choice of college cost $58K/year and with merit only cost $40K each year.
Meanwhile their "much more academic sibling" with a 3.99UW/1520/9APs with all 4/5s is at a T40 that's 80k+ and doesn't give much merit (they got none).

Both are at their best choice after reviewing acceptances and for both we would pay whatever was needed. My first did much better at the private more expensive school than at the huge State U that would have only cost $20K/year---they thrived once they found their footing and that is what college is all about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. A B student wouldn't get into my run of the mill state school these days. How is that not a problem?

I think it just goes to show how crazy college admissions is these days.

I went to a middling no name state u back in the day. They used to admit almost everyone. Now? goodness.. the acceptance rate is like 60%. It's nuts.

Yeah, I can recall when VaTech admitted everyone in VA if you graduated HS with at least a 2.0 (which is required to graduate from HS). Even if you wanted Engineering, you could easily get it.
Not so anymore

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody said they weren't "fine". But, it doesn't make sense to pay up the nose for an expensive college where the ROI isn't there.

-signed a parent of an A and B student

Doesn’t work like that in our household. All of my kids get the privilege of going to a 4-year college. Not just the one who happens to be smarter and gets all A’s. They all worked hard and I’m happy to support the opportunity for them to spread their wings and fly.

no where did I say that a B student shouldn't go to college. Re-read what I wrote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody said they weren't "fine". But, it doesn't make sense to pay up the nose for an expensive college where the ROI isn't there.

-signed a parent of an A and B student

You know your kid best, but I have a B student who would thrive in college.

The current cost of college makes us question things we never would before. In the old days, of course a B student would attend college. I do think each child should get the same amount for college.

didn't say they shouldn't go to college. Just that paying for an expensive college that has a bad ROI makes no sense.

My B kid is definitely going to college. But given the cost of colleges these days, I'm not paying $70K/yr for a degree where they can't get a good ROI. And yes, the ROI is important to us because we don't come from family money. My kids need to get jobs where they can financially support themselves. It doesn't have to be six figures. It doesn't have to be in STEM. My B kid doesn't want to major in STEM, and that's fine. But whatever they do or wherever they go, they'll need to be able to get good paying jobs, or move to a lcol town.

Your household sounds like a fun place to live.

we have family dinners most nights, and my kids go to bed at a reasonable time. No divorce or major fighting between parents. We provide healthy, home cooked meals, pay for and support their activities, and tell them we love them and are proud of them.

But, I do hate boardgames, so we are not a fun family in that way.

[Anonymous]

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B and C students go to college, certainly.

They cost more to educate, unless you want to pay for community college then 2 years of state U, because they're not the ones getting merit aid.

My B student got $25k in merit aid to his current college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody said they weren't "fine". But, it doesn't make sense to pay up the nose for an expensive college where the ROI isn't there.

-signed a parent of an A and B student

This is only true you don’t grow or learn anything in college and your kid peaks at 17.

Your paying for the opportunities and facilities and the education, what are your kids doing at college if they got everything they needed in High School?

[Anonymous]

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B and C students go to college, certainly.

They cost more to educate, unless you want to pay for community college then 2 years of state U, because they're not the ones getting merit aid.

You are an idiot. My niece goes to a top 10 school and I can assure you they shell out a lot more then we do for my B student going in state.

Idiots understand an implied "all else equal".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And B students can be girls-not just boys!

On my roster the girls are G students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The A students work for the B students, the C students own the company, and the dropouts invented the product the company makes.

Keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
B and C students go to college, certainly.

They cost more to educate, unless you want to pay for community college then 2 years of state U, because they're not the ones getting merit aid.

You are an idiot. My niece goes to a top 10 school and I can assure you they shell out a lot more then we do for my B student going in state.

Idiots understand an implied "all else equal".

Well, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. B students, B parents.

[Anonymous]

While B students will be fine, please don’t compare the current college application and selection process to when you went to school. It’s completely different now.

[Anonymous]

I think it's a big problem how status-obsessed and dreary you all sound. Also explains a lot about the current crop of intellectual thought: didactic, evangelical, rigid, and more hierarchial than an Indian caste system.

I actually pity you. That's such a sad way to live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, but I'm hoping for better than fine.

That puts your kid under relentless pressure.

They should try their best, and if sometimes that yields “good” instead of “excellent “ results, all involved should not react as if that portends doom (as is sometimes suggested on DCUM).