Is MCPS biased against boys?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's not MCPS, it's pretty much all co-ed schools in the US. Females teachers tend to be biased.

If you can afford it, send your son to an all boys school. Landon is walking distance from Bradley Hills.


It's not just the teachers, it goes higher up than that. How ES is designed in general is biased against boys. Too much sitting, it's not developmentally appropriate.


It is developmentally appropriate for kids to be able to sit at age five and learn academics. You take them to the playground before school and after school and they have recess. If its not appropriate, then hold your kid back and start them in K at 7-8-9 when you feel its appropriate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is the school plan for a child repeatedly being sent to the Principal. Negative consequences is not the normal best practice to change behavior.

I would recommend that you keep all documentation or request all documentation when your child leaves the classroom to go to the principal or any time recess or breaks or lost as punishment. After you have the documentation, request in writing to your principal to assemble an IEP meeting to determine if your child has a disability that is having an educational impact. The impact is the loss instruction and social skills development your child suffers when not in class or at recess. Request for this meeting to be held in person so you can meet the people making important decisions about your child.

There are multiple disabilities that impact children’s behavior. ADHD is one. Sending a child to the principal is extreme so is the punishment matching the behavior which is also extreme? If the behavior is repeatedly outside the school expectation, then a plan needs to be developed so a child can learn coping skills and strategies to develop behaviors that align with the school expectations. A Behavior Intervention Plan is one way that the teacher can collect data.


DD had a teacher who was fond of passing the buck and escalating to the principal when it was not appropriate. DD was not sent to the principal but witnessed a lot of boys being sent there for things like "talking back," not being able to sit still, failing to follow directions on a worksheet. K teacher. This was a teacher issue, not a student issue or a school issue. Some teachers just stink at classroom management.

No, it's not developmentally appropriate for 5 year old boys to be able to sit all day in class and do worksheets. Why do you type things out about stuff you don't understand?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the school plan for a child repeatedly being sent to the Principal. Negative consequences is not the normal best practice to change behavior.

I would recommend that you keep all documentation or request all documentation when your child leaves the classroom to go to the principal or any time recess or breaks or lost as punishment. After you have the documentation, request in writing to your principal to assemble an IEP meeting to determine if your child has a disability that is having an educational impact. The impact is the loss instruction and social skills development your child suffers when not in class or at recess. Request for this meeting to be held in person so you can meet the people making important decisions about your child.

There are multiple disabilities that impact children’s behavior. ADHD is one. Sending a child to the principal is extreme so is the punishment matching the behavior which is also extreme? If the behavior is repeatedly outside the school expectation, then a plan needs to be developed so a child can learn coping skills and strategies to develop behaviors that align with the school expectations. A Behavior Intervention Plan is one way that the teacher can collect data.


DD had a teacher who was fond of passing the buck and escalating to the principal when it was not appropriate. DD was not sent to the principal but witnessed a lot of boys being sent there for things like "talking back," not being able to sit still, failing to follow directions on a worksheet. K teacher. This was a teacher issue, not a student issue or a school issue. Some teachers just stink at classroom management.

No, it's not developmentally appropriate for 5 year old boys to be able to sit all day in class and do worksheets. Why do you type things out about stuff you don't understand?


MCPS doesn't have kids do worksheets all day. Most don't even have enough paper for that many worksheets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the school plan for a child repeatedly being sent to the Principal. Negative consequences is not the normal best practice to change behavior.

I would recommend that you keep all documentation or request all documentation when your child leaves the classroom to go to the principal or any time recess or breaks or lost as punishment. After you have the documentation, request in writing to your principal to assemble an IEP meeting to determine if your child has a disability that is having an educational impact. The impact is the loss instruction and social skills development your child suffers when not in class or at recess. Request for this meeting to be held in person so you can meet the people making important decisions about your child.

There are multiple disabilities that impact children’s behavior. ADHD is one. Sending a child to the principal is extreme so is the punishment matching the behavior which is also extreme? If the behavior is repeatedly outside the school expectation, then a plan needs to be developed so a child can learn coping skills and strategies to develop behaviors that align with the school expectations. A Behavior Intervention Plan is one way that the teacher can collect data.


DD had a teacher who was fond of passing the buck and escalating to the principal when it was not appropriate. DD was not sent to the principal but witnessed a lot of boys being sent there for things like "talking back," not being able to sit still, failing to follow directions on a worksheet. K teacher. This was a teacher issue, not a student issue or a school issue. Some teachers just stink at classroom management.

No, it's not developmentally appropriate for 5 year old boys to be able to sit all day in class and do worksheets. Why do you type things out about stuff you don't understand?


I have two decades of experience so I think I understand how the MCPS machine works than you do.

Per your post above, you think the teacher is to blame. She is frivolously sending your child to the principal for what you consider to be age appropriate behavior.

As a parent, MCPS doesn’t care about what you consider to be age appropriate behaviors or not. Request an IEP meeting and the teacher will have to explain why your child is repeatedly being sent to the principal. It’s best to as questions to the team vs. demands. These are questions you can ask to the IEP team and teacher:

1) Is it normal for a student in X grade to be sent to the principal for XYZ behavior?

2) How much instruction/recess/lunch time is your son missing to address the behavior?

3) Are there alternative best practices for interventions that have tried with your child?

4) How effective are these strategies?

5) Has anyone performed a classroom observation for your child?

6) Does data need to be collected to determine whether your child has a disability?

7) Is missing educational opportunities an appropriate response and what’s the impact on your child?

8) Has anyone considered the impact on your child’s self esteem?

9) What forms of positive reinforcement have been tried to improve behavior?

By calling the IEP team meeting, the school will then be on notice of the excessive visits to the principal’s office. There will be pressure to stop sending your child to the principal. Best case scenario, extra supports will be given so there is positive reinforcement for good behavior and better strategies for classroom management.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our ES teacher and school counselor both told us MCPS is not geared towards boys. Among other reasons, they mentioned there needs to be 2 breaks in the middle of the day to release the energy (which leads to ADHD over diagnosis btw)


Or sometimes (my son was one who was a frequent flyer to the principal) MCPS is failing Child Find obligations for identifying children with ADHD.


Childfind is for 3-5 year olds not older kids and once they hit K, parents need to get them evaluated.


Child Find is a requirement in the IDEA. It is not solely a MCPS department that has adopted that name. Child Find refers to the legal requirement for public schools to identify all children with disabilities and their needs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have a boy and a girl at Bradley Hills Elementary in Bethesda. Neither kid is an angel, but my daughter never gets in trouble for anything. If my boy is assertive in any way he gets reprimanded or sent to the office. This same behavior is never punished with my daughter.

Other parents seem to have similar experiences with athletic and high energy boys.


If you are not there how do you know it is the 'same' behavior. Btw my dh is a teacher and he says the boys overwhelming misbehave. There are girls but they are not the norm. So why don't you focus on your boy "assertiveness" and tell him to be quiet and listen to the teacher?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's not MCPS. It's schools in this part of the county and the entitled teachers who have never had kids themselves and expect every child to be a little angel.

This does not describe every teacher. There are some great ones but DC has too many like this.
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Teachers should expect kids not to wrestle in class and break things! Teach your sons to be better!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's not MCPS, it's pretty much all co-ed schools in the US. Females teachers tend to be biased.

If you can afford it, send your son to an all boys school. Landon is walking distance from Bradley Hills.

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Boo hoo. Teachers are biased against girls. The teachers ( female and male) call on boys more than girls.

https://forums.atozteacherstuff.com/index.php?threads/do-teachers-call-on-boys-more-than-girls.50049/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the school plan for a child repeatedly being sent to the Principal. Negative consequences is not the normal best practice to change behavior.

I would recommend that you keep all documentation or request all documentation when your child leaves the classroom to go to the principal or any time recess or breaks or lost as punishment. After you have the documentation, request in writing to your principal to assemble an IEP meeting to determine if your child has a disability that is having an educational impact. The impact is the loss instruction and social skills development your child suffers when not in class or at recess. Request for this meeting to be held in person so you can meet the people making important decisions about your child.

There are multiple disabilities that impact children’s behavior. ADHD is one. Sending a child to the principal is extreme so is the punishment matching the behavior which is also extreme? If the behavior is repeatedly outside the school expectation, then a plan needs to be developed so a child can learn coping skills and strategies to develop behaviors that align with the school expectations. A Behavior Intervention Plan is one way that the teacher can collect data.


DD had a teacher who was fond of passing the buck and escalating to the principal when it was not appropriate. DD was not sent to the principal but witnessed a lot of boys being sent there for things like "talking back," not being able to sit still, failing to follow directions on a worksheet. K teacher. This was a teacher issue, not a student issue or a school issue. Some teachers just stink at classroom management.

No, it's not developmentally appropriate for 5 year old boys to be able to sit all day in class and do worksheets. Why do you type things out about stuff you don't understand?


MCPS doesn't have kids do worksheets all day. Most don't even have enough paper for that many worksheets.


Or working printers and copy machines.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son got in trouble because he was loud and distracting and when he was bored he acted out. When my day was bored she drew or daydreamed.

I teach and I don't see a bias. I bet your kid is actually more obnoxious than he's letting on and your dd may have better social skills.

So many boys I know hate school. More than the girls I know. Why do you think this is the case?


Many boys that age I know hate bathing/showering. More than the girls I know. Why do you think that is the case?
Anonymous
As someone in the system for almost 2 decades the system is fully stacked against boy behaviors. It’s a real thing. Girls can be loud in the hall and it’s ignored. Boys cause any sound and they get reprimanded.

Every action a boy makes is criticized. There’s no hope.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's not MCPS, it's pretty much all co-ed schools in the US. Females teachers tend to be biased.

If you can afford it, send your son to an all boys school. Landon is walking distance from Bradley Hills.


It's not just the teachers, it goes higher up than that. How ES is designed in general is biased against boys. Too much sitting, it's not developmentally appropriate.


It is developmentally appropriate for kids to be able to sit at age five and learn academics. You take them to the playground before school and after school and they have recess. If its not appropriate, then hold your kid back and start them in K at 7-8-9 when you feel its appropriate.

Provide a source that says 5yo kids don't need to move except for a short recess every day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As someone in the system for almost 2 decades the system is fully stacked against boy behaviors. It’s a real thing. Girls can be loud in the hall and it’s ignored. Boys cause any sound and they get reprimanded.

Every action a boy makes is criticized. There’s no hope.


That is such bull crap and you know it
Anonymous
I suggest you all ask all the elementary teachers you know: have you ever been bitten, spit on, cursed at, or hit in the classroom? If so, was it by a boy or a girl? See what responses you get.
Anonymous
Yes 💯 boys are discriminated against. Most teachers are women and really do not understand boys unless they have a son. Boys move around, they fidget, they call out, they need breaks. Many female teachers get annoyed with this. It’s sad to see since I have a son.
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