Is MCPS biased against boys?

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Anonymous wrote:What is the school plan for a child repeatedly being sent to the Principal. Negative consequences is not the normal best practice to change behavior.

I would recommend that you keep all documentation or request all documentation when your child leaves the classroom to go to the principal or any time recess or breaks or lost as punishment. After you have the documentation, request in writing to your principal to assemble an IEP meeting to determine if your child has a disability that is having an educational impact. The impact is the loss instruction and social skills development your child suffers when not in class or at recess. Request for this meeting to be held in person so you can meet the people making important decisions about your child.

There are multiple disabilities that impact children’s behavior. ADHD is one. Sending a child to the principal is extreme so is the punishment matching the behavior which is also extreme? If the behavior is repeatedly outside the school expectation, then a plan needs to be developed so a child can learn coping skills and strategies to develop behaviors that align with the school expectations. A Behavior Intervention Plan is one way that the teacher can collect data.

DD had a teacher who was fond of passing the buck and escalating to the principal when it was not appropriate. DD was not sent to the principal but witnessed a lot of boys being sent there for things like "talking back," not being able to sit still, failing to follow directions on a worksheet. K teacher. This was a teacher issue, not a student issue or a school issue. Some teachers just stink at classroom management.

No, it's not developmentally appropriate for 5 year old boys to be able to sit all day in class and do worksheets. Why do you type things out about stuff you don't understand?

MCPS doesn't have kids do worksheets all day. Most don't even have enough paper for that many worksheets.

They just stick them on chromebooks all day. Maybe even worse than worksheets

Or better since adaptive interactive learning is a vast improvement

how did anyone learn before chromebooks. screen time is destroying a generation of children and to many of the kids in class, especially boys, they view it as a game to play with not learn with

very, very, very slowly

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would be very happy with single sex public school classrooms until 8th grade so the girls can learn more and the boys can be boys, I guess.

As a boy parent, I want my kids educated at school and not run wild and do no academics as other parents don't feel their boys are capable. Ever consider parenting is part of the problem.

NP

Never, I sent my kids to an all boys school that had outdoor activities 1st period, then school, then science outside, then reading outside weather permitting, then lunch, recess, then 1 class, sports, math

I never once thought that they thrived in that environment vs the other was a parenting issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes 💯 boys are discriminated against. Most teachers are women and really do not understand boys unless they have a son. Boys move around, they fidget, they call out, they need breaks. Many female teachers get annoyed with this. It’s sad to see since I have a son.

The boys need a dad who knows how to use the belt when they behave badly.

Dp Says the idiot who knows nothing about raising kids!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3768154/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the school plan for a child repeatedly being sent to the Principal. Negative consequences is not the normal best practice to change behavior.

I would recommend that you keep all documentation or request all documentation when your child leaves the classroom to go to the principal or any time recess or breaks or lost as punishment. After you have the documentation, request in writing to your principal to assemble an IEP meeting to determine if your child has a disability that is having an educational impact. The impact is the loss instruction and social skills development your child suffers when not in class or at recess. Request for this meeting to be held in person so you can meet the people making important decisions about your child.

There are multiple disabilities that impact children’s behavior. ADHD is one. Sending a child to the principal is extreme so is the punishment matching the behavior which is also extreme? If the behavior is repeatedly outside the school expectation, then a plan needs to be developed so a child can learn coping skills and strategies to develop behaviors that align with the school expectations. A Behavior Intervention Plan is one way that the teacher can collect data.

DD had a teacher who was fond of passing the buck and escalating to the principal when it was not appropriate. DD was not sent to the principal but witnessed a lot of boys being sent there for things like "talking back," not being able to sit still, failing to follow directions on a worksheet. K teacher. This was a teacher issue, not a student issue or a school issue. Some teachers just stink at classroom management.

No, it's not developmentally appropriate for 5 year old boys to be able to sit all day in class and do worksheets. Why do you type things out about stuff you don't understand?

MCPS doesn't have kids do worksheets all day. Most don't even have enough paper for that many worksheets.

MCPS is trying to feminize young boys. God forbid the boy grows up to be a strong, assertive and confident man.

God forbid anyone would want to be a woman There are no strong assertive and confident women

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be very happy with single sex public school classrooms until 8th grade so the girls can learn more and the boys can be boys, I guess.

As a boy parent, I want my kids educated at school and not run wild and do no academics as other parents don't feel their boys are capable. Ever consider parenting is part of the problem.

NP

Never, I sent my kids to an all boys school that had outdoor activities 1st period, then school, then science outside, then reading outside weather permitting, then lunch, recess, then 1 class, sports, math

I never once thought that they thrived in that environment vs the other was a parenting issue.

NP. I think you hit the nail on the head. It's not just an MCPS problem. While acknowledging that were are making gender-based generalizations that don't apply to all kids, on balance, boys tend to mature a bit slower than girls and have more trouble with attention and lack of physical movement during the day. A school day that incorporates movement, including daily gym and or recess, is helpful for these boys and better for all students. The problem is that we can't do that outside of private schools. We compound the problem of lack of movement by increasing academic expectations from a young age. Any student who doesn't meet the ideal student standard of labeled as a bad student with bad parents. I have one of those spirited boys (and another who isn't), and I sometimes wonder if my parenting, which was constantly punishing my son and taking away privileges, did more harm than if I had used a more hands-off approach. From the beginning, my kid was a square peg being beaten into a round hole, and he internalized the message that what he was was not enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:K-12 education, since the beginning of medieval group learning by monks, was never meant to be accommodating towards non-compliant behavior. For centuries, kids used to be physically punished for misbehavior or failure to memorize their lessons. Nowadays, some people decry the chaos in classrooms where misbehavior is out of control and teachers are not allowed to enact consequences, and there are no suspensions or expulsions.

So in that context, OP, I would think twice about what your son might be doing that's different than your daughter. If you're sure he's not doing anything different, maybe his classroom's atmosphere or his teacher's control are different and require different measures.

But fear not. It is an established fact, proven by numerous interviews, including most recently an article in the New York Times, that boys are favored over girls in the college admissions process. This is because girls tend to be higher-achievers with better academic profiles, but to sustain gender balance on campus, colleges need to lower the bar slightly for male applicants.

So your son will come out alright in the end

Eye roll. Read the articles more closely
That bump only happens at less selective schools
And by then some boys who would have otherwise enjoyed and done better at school have been beaten down over the years so they are turned off. Not great for society over all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be very happy with single sex public school classrooms until 8th grade so the girls can learn more and the boys can be boys, I guess.

As a boy parent, I want my kids educated at school and not run wild and do no academics as other parents don't feel their boys are capable. Ever consider parenting is part of the problem.

NP

Never, I sent my kids to an all boys school that had outdoor activities 1st period, then school, then science outside, then reading outside weather permitting, then lunch, recess, then 1 class, sports, math

I never once thought that they thrived in that environment vs the other was a parenting issue.

NP. I think you hit the nail on the head. It's not just an MCPS problem. While acknowledging that were are making gender-based generalizations that don't apply to all kids, on balance, boys tend to mature a bit slower than girls and have more trouble with attention and lack of physical movement during the day. A school day that incorporates movement, including daily gym and or recess, is helpful for these boys and better for all students. The problem is that we can't do that outside of private schools. We compound the problem of lack of movement by increasing academic expectations from a young age. Any student who doesn't meet the ideal student standard of labeled as a bad student with bad parents. I have one of those spirited boys (and another who isn't), and I sometimes wonder if my parenting, which was constantly punishing my son and taking away privileges, did more harm than if I had used a more hands-off approach. From the beginning, my kid was a square peg being beaten into a round hole, and he internalized the message that what he was was not enough.

I think we can do it but it's too expensive and teachers are not allowed. My son's evaluator for ADHD observed his classroom and observed he only acted up after sitting 40 minutes straight. He was fine sitting for 30 minutes.

The principal actually move art up in his class because they had 120 minutes of sitting and he didn't really think of that.

Also they can do pushups, yoga poses, run in place ... anything to get the wiggles out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the school plan for a child repeatedly being sent to the Principal. Negative consequences is not the normal best practice to change behavior.

I would recommend that you keep all documentation or request all documentation when your child leaves the classroom to go to the principal or any time recess or breaks or lost as punishment. After you have the documentation, request in writing to your principal to assemble an IEP meeting to determine if your child has a disability that is having an educational impact. The impact is the loss instruction and social skills development your child suffers when not in class or at recess. Request for this meeting to be held in person so you can meet the people making important decisions about your child.

There are multiple disabilities that impact children’s behavior. ADHD is one. Sending a child to the principal is extreme so is the punishment matching the behavior which is also extreme? If the behavior is repeatedly outside the school expectation, then a plan needs to be developed so a child can learn coping skills and strategies to develop behaviors that align with the school expectations. A Behavior Intervention Plan is one way that the teacher can collect data.

DD had a teacher who was fond of passing the buck and escalating to the principal when it was not appropriate. DD was not sent to the principal but witnessed a lot of boys being sent there for things like "talking back," not being able to sit still, failing to follow directions on a worksheet. K teacher. This was a teacher issue, not a student issue or a school issue. Some teachers just stink at classroom management.

No, it's not developmentally appropriate for 5 year old boys to be able to sit all day in class and do worksheets. Why do you type things out about stuff you don't understand?

MCPS doesn't have kids do worksheets all day. Most don't even have enough paper for that many worksheets.

MCPS is trying to feminize young boys. God forbid the boy grows up to be a strong, assertive and confident man.

Misogyny much? Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes 💯 boys are discriminated against. Most teachers are women and really do not understand boys unless they have a son. Boys move around, they fidget, they call out, they need breaks. Many female teachers get annoyed with this. It’s sad to see since I have a son.

The boys need a dad who knows how to use the belt when they behave badly.

Indeed! Spare the rod...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be very happy with single sex public school classrooms until 8th grade so the girls can learn more and the boys can be boys, I guess.

As a boy parent, I want my kids educated at school and not run wild and do no academics as other parents don't feel their boys are capable. Ever consider parenting is part of the problem.

I know parenting is a huge part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course it is. Progressives follow the pyramid of oppression and discriminate against anyone who isn't a victim. They call it equity.

Yawn. Get a new bit, right wing dim bulb. This one is old and stale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a son and a daughter in mcps. My son who is more of an independent spirit did get in trouble occasionally for acting wild with other boys in the early ES years. From what I could tell, I think the corrections from the teachers were appropriate. I don’t think he was treated unfairly. I think he needed to be told, no you cannot do this or that at recess for example. He needed to learn those boundaries and needed behavior reinforcement. My daughter on the other hand is a people pleaser and I cannot imagine her acting out in the same ways my son did. So she hasn’t had to deal with occasionally missing recess or making apologies or not getting behavior incentives etc like he did. But I don’t think the overall situation has been unfair.

Mothers assessment of “independent spirit” = attention seeking, disruptive PITA. And then they cry “oppression!” Please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be very happy with single sex public school classrooms until 8th grade so the girls can learn more and the boys can be boys, I guess.

As a boy parent, I want my kids educated at school and not run wild and do no academics as other parents don't feel their boys are capable. Ever consider parenting is part of the problem.

NP

Never, I sent my kids to an all boys school that had outdoor activities 1st period, then school, then science outside, then reading outside weather permitting, then lunch, recess, then 1 class, sports, math

I never once thought that they thrived in that environment vs the other was a parenting issue.

Doesn't sound like a quality education. Not enough focus on academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be very happy with single sex public school classrooms until 8th grade so the girls can learn more and the boys can be boys, I guess.

As a boy parent, I want my kids educated at school and not run wild and do no academics as other parents don't feel their boys are capable. Ever consider parenting is part of the problem.

NP

Never, I sent my kids to an all boys school that had outdoor activities 1st period, then school, then science outside, then reading outside weather permitting, then lunch, recess, then 1 class, sports, math

I never once thought that they thrived in that environment vs the other was a parenting issue.

NP. I think you hit the nail on the head. It's not just an MCPS problem. While acknowledging that were are making gender-based generalizations that don't apply to all kids, on balance, boys tend to mature a bit slower than girls and have more trouble with attention and lack of physical movement during the day. A school day that incorporates movement, including daily gym and or recess, is helpful for these boys and better for all students. The problem is that we can't do that outside of private schools. We compound the problem of lack of movement by increasing academic expectations from a young age. Any student who doesn't meet the ideal student standard of labeled as a bad student with bad parents. I have one of those spirited boys (and another who isn't), and I sometimes wonder if my parenting, which was constantly punishing my son and taking away privileges, did more harm than if I had used a more hands-off approach. From the beginning, my kid was a square peg being beaten into a round hole, and he internalized the message that what he was was not enough.

I think we can do it but it's too expensive and teachers are not allowed. My son's evaluator for ADHD observed his classroom and observed he only acted up after sitting 40 minutes straight. He was fine sitting for 30 minutes.

The principal actually move art up in his class because they had 120 minutes of sitting and he didn't really think of that.

Also they can do pushups, yoga poses, run in place ... anything to get the wiggles out.

No school has two hours of just sitting. This sounds made up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The boys are my school are far more likely to have phone addiction issues. So, they definitely get more attention from me in response.

I see the same thing.

The boys are playing games and watching videos every second they can. They don’t know how to focus for more than 10 seconds. Movement infused lessons used to help with wriggly boys and now it doesn’t make a big difference because it’s their brains craving dopamine.

Girls have social drama on their phones, but they don’t seem to need to use them nonstop.

OP post is about elementary so the kids probably don't have their own phones. Maybe the problem is the heavy use of Chromebooks such that the addictive screen is always a fingertip away.

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Sorry, no. It’s not Chromebooks at school. It’s endless devices at home, where they are at least 16 hours a day, seven days a week. Stop deflecting.