The HS things are going rocky thread-

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Anonymous wrote:Did your kids go to private middle schools? My son loved private high school because his private MS gave him more homework. He also loved that he had free periods in HS so he got good at using them to get his homework done. He's in college now and says it has been easier in terms of workload than HS and MS!

Yes it is easier because the workload is less. One credit hour will require 2 hours of non class work. So 12 credit hours is 36 hours per week including class room time. In college you are not stuck in school from 8-3 and after school activities plus 3-4 hour of homework. If you stop and think about it it is ridiculous to put this load on high schoolers.

FWIW, not all college programs are set up like that. Quarter systems in particular are more intense and require more time.

Even those are less of a work load. A semester system generally consists of two 15-week terms: one in the fall (followed by a winter break) and one in the spring (followed by a summer break). The average full-time student takes 4-5 courses per term, or roughly 15 credits. 95% of colleges and Universities use this system.

A quarter system consists of four 10-week sessions in the fall, winter, spring, and summer. The average full-time student takes 3-4 courses per term, or 9-12 credits.

Now some stem majors more out of class studying but it is less vs what these high schools are requiring. Specially when the teacher do not coordinate the workload and end of semester.

Still you seem to miss the point. High School kids are not the same as college age students. There are a lot of reasons why this type of work load is not healthy for high school age kids. There are actually laws that prevent high school age kids from working these type of hours at a job but it’s okay for school? Most adults burn out with hours like that.

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PP, just choose an easier school for your kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Sad to hear…but isn’t that what your family signed up for?

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Anonymous wrote:So sorry, OP. Mine is being excluded and ignored.

Oh no - by old friends?

Yes. They have found a cooler crowd to hang with. The girls in this class are so cliquey and try so desperately to be cool, and kids like mine -- who are kind and smart and decidedly NOT cool -- are left out. It's toxic.

Same here.

And DC is questioning her class choices and wondering if she can handle them. Also almost to 4 to 5 hours of homework a night along with being on a varsity sport team and no time to be a kid or have fun. it’s so sad to watch.

NP. I’m sure they did not “sign up” for that. No one thinks their kid will have 4 hrs of homework. The school needs to frame shift dramatically.

No, the school does not need to frame shift. I'm assuming the student is signed up for a boatload of honors and AP courses. She is getting 4 hours of homework a night because that is what those courses require and or the student can't get the work done for such a rigorous set of courses in a shorter time frame. Parents should drop her down into "regular" level courses for at least 2, maybe 3 classes. Nothing wrong with that. I'm not being a jerk. My own child dropped from honors to regular physics junior year and dropped out of another AP into an honors course senior year. Parents cannot have their students signed up for super hard courses and then complain it's too hard or too time consuming.

What??No private school is enrolling freshman in AP classes. Many don’t even have them anymore.

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Maybe not multiple APs. But, yes, there is at least one AP class available to freshmen at my child’s private school.

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What AP class is available to freshmen?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious..What did any of you expect when you enrolled?

What I didn’t know some years ago was that my very precocious and bright child would end up struggling with anxiety, depression and a specific learning disability. What I didn’t know some years ago was how the pandemic would hit unexpectedly in their middle school years and exacerbate all those issues listed above.

Get your child an executive function tutor. I think lack of organization skills
leads to anxiety and depression. Very important for students to learn how to use study hall and also plan ahead so they are not overwhelmed by a huge assignment that could have been chunked out. Also parents should really think before their kid takes on too many honors courses and there is no shame in dropping down a level before drop
period over.

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Anonymous wrote:Can those of us with 10th graders having a rocky start post too? Kiddo who was diagnosed with a specific learning disability this summer is struggling in a couple classes. Turning work in late and incomplete, feeling overwhelmed and defeated already just a few weeks in. Really hoping they can crawl out of the hole and get back on track. Had to have a tough conversation and a bit of an intervention last night.

Get a tutor stat. Those grades matter

Study Pro in McLean is great for executive functioning with learning disability (started by a mom whose child had similar issues). Good luck!

They price out most people sadly.

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Anonymous wrote:Sad to hear…but isn’t that what your family signed up for?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So sorry, OP. Mine is being excluded and ignored.

Oh no - by old friends?

Yes. They have found a cooler crowd to hang with. The girls in this class are so cliquey and try so desperately to be cool, and kids like mine -- who are kind and smart and decidedly NOT cool -- are left out. It's toxic.

Same here.

And DC is questioning her class choices and wondering if she can handle them. Also almost to 4 to 5 hours of homework a night along with being on a varsity sport team and no time to be a kid or have fun. it’s so sad to watch.

NP. I’m sure they did not “sign up” for that. No one thinks their kid will have 4 hrs of homework. The school needs to frame shift dramatically.

No, the school does not need to frame shift. I'm assuming the student is signed up for a boatload of honors and AP courses. She is getting 4 hours of homework a night because that is what those courses require and or the student can't get the work done for such a rigorous set of courses in a shorter time frame. Parents should drop her down into "regular" level courses for at least 2, maybe 3 classes. Nothing wrong with that. I'm not being a jerk. My own child dropped from honors to regular physics junior year and dropped out of another AP into an honors course senior year. Parents cannot have their students signed up for super hard courses and then complain it's too hard or too time consuming.

What??No private school is enrolling freshman in AP classes. Many don’t even have them anymore.

You clearly don't know about all the private schools in the area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did your kids go to private middle schools? My son loved private high school because his private MS gave him more homework. He also loved that he had free periods in HS so he got good at using them to get his homework done. He's in college now and says it has been easier in terms of workload than HS and MS!

Yes it is easier because the workload is less. One credit hour will require 2 hours of non class work. So 12 credit hours is 36 hours per week including class room time. In college you are not stuck in school from 8-3 and after school activities plus 3-4 hour of homework. If you stop and think about it it is ridiculous to put this load on high schoolers.

FWIW, not all college programs are set up like that. Quarter systems in particular are more intense and require more time.

Even those are less of a work load. A semester system generally consists of two 15-week terms: one in the fall (followed by a winter break) and one in the spring (followed by a summer break). The average full-time student takes 4-5 courses per term, or roughly 15 credits. 95% of colleges and Universities use this system.

A quarter system consists of four 10-week sessions in the fall, winter, spring, and summer. The average full-time student takes 3-4 courses per term, or 9-12 credits.

Now some stem majors more out of class studying but it is less vs what these high schools are requiring. Specially when the teacher do not coordinate the workload and end of semester.

Still you seem to miss the point. High School kids are not the same as college age students. There are a lot of reasons why this type of work load is not healthy for high school age kids. There are actually laws that prevent high school age kids from working these type of hours at a job but it’s okay for school? Most adults burn out with hours like that.

No one is missing your point, which is that your kid needs a different educational model than the one you chose. There is nothing wrong with that, so quit fighting it. Not everyone is the same. We have many great options for schools. Pick the one that is healthy for your child. When a square peg doesn't fit into a round hole, you don't try to change the peg or the hole, you find the right fit elsewhere. There are many pathways to success, and the sooner you accept this the happier you and your child will be. This goes triple for college.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sad to hear…but isn’t that what your family signed up for?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So sorry, OP. Mine is being excluded and ignored.

Oh no - by old friends?

Yes. They have found a cooler crowd to hang with. The girls in this class are so cliquey and try so desperately to be cool, and kids like mine -- who are kind and smart and decidedly NOT cool -- are left out. It's toxic.

Same here.

And DC is questioning her class choices and wondering if she can handle them. Also almost to 4 to 5 hours of homework a night along with being on a varsity sport team and no time to be a kid or have fun. it’s so sad to watch.

NP. I’m sure they did not “sign up” for that. No one thinks their kid will have 4 hrs of homework. The school needs to frame shift dramatically.

No, the school does not need to frame shift. I'm assuming the student is signed up for a boatload of honors and AP courses. She is getting 4 hours of homework a night because that is what those courses require and or the student can't get the work done for such a rigorous set of courses in a shorter time frame. Parents should drop her down into "regular" level courses for at least 2, maybe 3 classes. Nothing wrong with that. I'm not being a jerk. My own child dropped from honors to regular physics junior year and dropped out of another AP into an honors course senior year. Parents cannot have their students signed up for super hard courses and then complain it's too hard or too time consuming.

What??No private school is enrolling freshman in AP classes. Many don’t even have them anymore.

You clearly don't know about all the private schools in the area.

Please enlighten me. Which private school allows freshman to take AP classes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sad to hear…but isn’t that what your family signed up for?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So sorry, OP. Mine is being excluded and ignored.

Oh no - by old friends?

Yes. They have found a cooler crowd to hang with. The girls in this class are so cliquey and try so desperately to be cool, and kids like mine -- who are kind and smart and decidedly NOT cool -- are left out. It's toxic.

Same here.

And DC is questioning her class choices and wondering if she can handle them. Also almost to 4 to 5 hours of homework a night along with being on a varsity sport team and no time to be a kid or have fun. it’s so sad to watch.

NP. I’m sure they did not “sign up” for that. No one thinks their kid will have 4 hrs of homework. The school needs to frame shift dramatically.

yes this she should not have that amount of work even at top schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can those of us with 10th graders having a rocky start post too? Kiddo who was diagnosed with a specific learning disability this summer is struggling in a couple classes. Turning work in late and incomplete, feeling overwhelmed and defeated already just a few weeks in. Really hoping they can crawl out of the hole and get back on track. Had to have a tough conversation and a bit of an intervention last night.

Get a tutor stat. Those grades matter

yes agree get them a tutor and help them organize their work and talk to the school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So sorry, OP. Mine is being excluded and ignored.

Oh no - by old friends?

Yes. They have found a cooler crowd to hang with. The girls in this class are so cliquey and try so desperately to be cool, and kids like mine -- who are kind and smart and decidedly NOT cool -- are left out. It's toxic.

Is this the CC crowd being toxic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sad to hear…but isn’t that what your family signed up for?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So sorry, OP. Mine is being excluded and ignored.

Oh no - by old friends?

Yes. They have found a cooler crowd to hang with. The girls in this class are so cliquey and try so desperately to be cool, and kids like mine -- who are kind and smart and decidedly NOT cool -- are left out. It's toxic.

Same here.

And DC is questioning her class choices and wondering if she can handle them. Also almost to 4 to 5 hours of homework a night along with being on a varsity sport team and no time to be a kid or have fun. it’s so sad to watch.

NP. I’m sure they did not “sign up” for that. No one thinks their kid will have 4 hrs of homework. The school needs to frame shift dramatically.

No, the school does not need to frame shift. I'm assuming the student is signed up for a boatload of honors and AP courses. She is getting 4 hours of homework a night because that is what those courses require and or the student can't get the work done for such a rigorous set of courses in a shorter time frame. Parents should drop her down into "regular" level courses for at least 2, maybe 3 classes. Nothing wrong with that. I'm not being a jerk. My own child dropped from honors to regular physics junior year and dropped out of another AP into an honors course senior year. Parents cannot have their students signed up for super hard courses and then complain it's too hard or too time consuming.

What??No private school is enrolling freshman in AP classes. Many don’t even have them anymore.

You clearly don't know about all the private schools in the area.

Please enlighten me. Which private school allows freshman to take AP classes?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sad to hear…but isn’t that what your family signed up for?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So sorry, OP. Mine is being excluded and ignored.

Oh no - by old friends?

Yes. They have found a cooler crowd to hang with. The girls in this class are so cliquey and try so desperately to be cool, and kids like mine -- who are kind and smart and decidedly NOT cool -- are left out. It's toxic.

Same here.

And DC is questioning her class choices and wondering if she can handle them. Also almost to 4 to 5 hours of homework a night along with being on a varsity sport team and no time to be a kid or have fun. it’s so sad to watch.

NP. I’m sure they did not “sign up” for that. No one thinks their kid will have 4 hrs of homework. The school needs to frame shift dramatically.

No, the school does not need to frame shift. I'm assuming the student is signed up for a boatload of honors and AP courses. She is getting 4 hours of homework a night because that is what those courses require and or the student can't get the work done for such a rigorous set of courses in a shorter time frame. Parents should drop her down into "regular" level courses for at least 2, maybe 3 classes. Nothing wrong with that. I'm not being a jerk. My own child dropped from honors to regular physics junior year and dropped out of another AP into an honors course senior year. Parents cannot have their students signed up for super hard courses and then complain it's too hard or too time consuming.

What??No private school is enrolling freshman in AP classes. Many don’t even have them anymore.

You clearly don't know about all the private schools in the area.

Please enlighten me. Which private school allows freshman to take AP classes?

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St Anselm's. Not sure if that's what PP meant, but it's the only one I know.