I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.
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Anonymous
Not to anybody that i know. It is a solid school though. |
Anonymous
I think the big state schools probably don't have time to concern themselves with demonstrated interest (they have tens of thousands of applications to deal with) but the smaller schools like Skidmore above definitely do in order to control yield. Waitlist is how they play the game. It's the equivalent of footsy. Of course Skidmore would love to enroll any kid with a 1490 but they know there is a 95% chance they are being used as a back up. So they feel it out. |
Anonymous
See attached: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-role-of-demonstrated-interest-in.html?m=1 |
Anonymous
I don't know why you think that the Skidmore waitlist was because of lack of demonstrated interest. I had a kid with higher test scores and in a magnet program. He wasn't interested in Skidmore but he did apply/was foucsed on selective liberal arts colleges. We always saw schools like that as not a sure thing and in fact he never found any true safeties that he liked (but fortunately he got in to a school ED so never had to get to that point). We were advised though that he needed real safeties like St. Mary's of Maryland or Washington College. |
Anonymous
+1 Case does care. They are a school with a yield prediction problem. Majority of their students end up there and it's not their first choice, first/2nd choices are often T25 schools that the students have the "resume" for but don't get in. So Case wants to select kids who will actually attend. However, they don't always care. My Class of 2026 kid got in and never visited, and only did one basic virtual session---basically applied because it looked like a great school for engineering and had no supplemental essays (the lack of supplementals was a key factor, as my kid was done writing all the extra essays for schools with single digit admission rates). My kid got $32K/year merit award and EA admission. So they saw something they liked and wanted to entice my kid. I will note my kid was at 3.99UW/1500, so not at the 1580 level. |
Anonymous
From 2019. This was in 2021, so please just answer the question. |
Anonymous
2019 not relevant |
Anonymous
That's absolutely not true. Several top public schools admit to showing demonstrated interest in the links provided (by pp, not by me). Still, can anyone explain the goal behind this exact campaign by UVA that has an alternative motivation? I don't mean some random blog post from 2019. |
Anonymous
This is from 2022. https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/10/things-you-dont-have-to-do-for-uva.html Emails showing interest As application numbers increase, so do the emails from students who want to express their interest in UVA. We are happy to answer questions, but emails showing interest aren't necessary, we don't use demonstrated interest in our review. By the way, submit updates through the student portal instead of by email. Please follow the application instructions on this! We want our staff to be dedicated to application review, not tending to a constant stream of emails. Following directions helps the process move quickly. Not following directions slows us down...and I know you all want us to work efficiently so we can get decisions made! |
Anonymous
Come on. Skidmore would take almost any kid with scores and grades like that if they knew they would attend. Why wouldn't they? Especially if full pay. Barring of course crazy red flags. Ivy League schools are flooded with top academic kids but second/third tier schools are not (that is what makes them second/third tier) so they get what they can. The problem is 19/20 they are just a Plan C for these kids. And if they let them all in, their acceptance rate would spike and their yield would plunge and the school would seem totally non-selective. So they play footsy with the waitlist or they just reject outright a kid who clearly knows nothing about the school. Their enrollment management software guides them in these decisions. |
Anonymous
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At a Boston University event last year the presenter stated they do factor demonstrated interest, and made clear that the best way to demonstrate interest was to apply ED.
That’s what demonstrated interest has shifted to. |
Anonymous
How am I to know whether PP is planning on living in the country (or having her kids live in the countr) for the immediate years prior as part of sending their kids back home? On average, even with international status, many of the college options are still cheaper. And having citizenship does usually end up giving you more options. So I don't see any need to clarify my post--it's not like PP offered many specifics and the general thrust still holds--many European colleges aren't stellar, they are often cheaper, and citizenship often makes it cheaper. FWIW, I've taught as a visiting prof in a European university and did a post-doc in another. |
Anonymous
Exactly. I posted about BU before I read through the whole thread. |
Anonymous
OP this is what I'm hearing/finding. BU def considered DI when my older kids were applying. |
Anonymous
Why are you so afraid of answering the question? Why did a UVA comp science admissions intern enter in http links with presumably tens of thousands of prospective student name with redirects to UVA homepage and then spend thousands on printing individual postcards to prospective applicants? Also, if they went to such trouble, would they or wouldn't they collect that data? Would any UVA professor worth their salt suggest that the university, much less any other business, do a marketing campaign without collecting data? If that data wasn't used to gauge interest in the university, what data would they be seeking? I asked if was just a very expensive "wow" campaign, but I have yet to hear anything substantive from you. |