I don’t think demonstrated interest is a thing anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Demonstrated interest is very important at Olin, Dickinson, Morehouse, Syracuse, American, and Ithaca.

Demonstrated interest is important at Tulane, Bates, Kenyon, Lehigh, Elon, and High Point, among others.

Demonstrated interest is considered at Duke, NYU, Dartmouth, WashU, Tufts, Notre Dame, UMich, etc.

Demonstrated interest is not considered at Brown, MIT, Georgetown, CMU, JHU, UC Berkeley, Caltech, etc.

So, higher price for lower quality, schools, use DI to boost rankings and revenue.
I wouldn't accept a clingy spouse like that, and I wouldn't accept a clingy college like that.

Don't think of it as a clingy spouse.

I like how Denison talks about demonstrated interest:
Think of this as synonymous to when your crushes passed you notes in elementary school asking you if you liked them (we know, no one passes notes anymore). College admission kind of works the same way. We provide a lot of ways for you to learn more about us and for us to learn more about you. When you engage with us, we get the hint that you might like us. And of course, we want to admit people who like us. Again, there are so many ways to engage: visiting campus, participating in one of our many virtual offerings, completing an admission interview, reading our emails, submitting an arts supplement…the list goes on. And don’t forget, the best way to tell us you like us is to APPLY!

The Ivys and the other prestigious colleges are like the big man on campus (or big woman). The big men (women) on campus get plenty of girls/guys throwing themselves at them. They can easily get dates to the prom.

For those of us who aren't the big men/women on campus, would you go up to some random guy/gal you never spoke wtih before/you weren't sure s/he even knew you existed and ask them to the prom? Or would you put some feelers out beforehand?

That's all demonstrated interest is - putting the feelers out. Smiling at the nice boy while passing them in the hallway and seeing if he returns your smile. Making eye contact with the nice girl in class and saying hi to her in the hall. Will s/he smile back and say hi back to you? If s/he does, maybe you could ask them to the prom without fear of getting rejected. It's not like you need to go to her/his house to see them in order to see if they kinda like you back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Must be nice to have the money and time for "demonstratable interest"

Sorry if your child doesn't have the money or time to open emails from some of these schools, watch virtual videos about this school, attend virtual events from these schools, attend an event if they are coming to your area, see the admissions counselor if they are coming to your child's school, email the schools admission counselor to set up a virtual interview, etc.

With today's technology, there are more ways to show demonstrated interest than traveling to a campus to visit it.

+1 you can even sign up for virtual tours, which I assume are equivalent to an in-person event. Schools with the “I love” essay make it easy to tell who’s dialing it in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA says it doesn’t care and doesn’t track it at all. UVA is very prestigious.

LOL. Two years ago UVA sent my senior a postcard with his own personalized web link using his name. Tell me they don’t care about demonstrated interest with such a pricy stunt. Of course they tracking who opens it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Demonstrated interest is very important at Olin, Dickinson, Morehouse, Syracuse, American, and Ithaca.

Demonstrated interest is important at Tulane, Bates, Kenyon, Lehigh, Elon, and High Point, among others.

Demonstrated interest is considered at Duke, NYU, Dartmouth, WashU, Tufts, Notre Dame, UMich, etc.

Demonstrated interest is not considered at Brown, MIT, Georgetown, CMU, JHU, UC Berkeley, Caltech, etc.

So, higher price for lower quality, schools, use DI to boost rankings and revenue.
I wouldn't accept a clingy spouse like that, and I wouldn't accept a clingy college like that.

Don't think of it as a clingy spouse.

I like how Denison talks about demonstrated interest:
Think of this as synonymous to when your crushes passed you notes in elementary school asking you if you liked them (we know, no one passes notes anymore). College admission kind of works the same way. We provide a lot of ways for you to learn more about us and for us to learn more about you. When you engage with us, we get the hint that you might like us. And of course, we want to admit people who like us. Again, there are so many ways to engage: visiting campus, participating in one of our many virtual offerings, completing an admission interview, reading our emails, submitting an arts supplement…the list goes on. And don’t forget, the best way to tell us you like us is to APPLY!

The Ivys and the other prestigious colleges are like the big man on campus (or big woman). The big men (women) on campus get plenty of girls/guys throwing themselves at them. They can easily get dates to the prom.

For those of us who aren't the big men/women on campus, would you go up to some random guy/gal you never spoke wtih before/you weren't sure s/he even knew you existed and ask them to the prom? Or would you put some feelers out beforehand?

That's all demonstrated interest is - putting the feelers out. Smiling at the nice boy while passing them in the hallway and seeing if he returns your smile. Making eye contact with the nice girl in class and saying hi to her in the hall. Will s/he smile back and say hi back to you? If s/he does, maybe you could ask them to the prom without fear of getting rejected. It's not like you need to go to her/his house to see them in order to see if they kinda like you back.

Wait, Denison actually wrote that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Demonstrated interest is very important at Olin, Dickinson, Morehouse, Syracuse, American, and Ithaca.

Demonstrated interest is important at Tulane, Bates, Kenyon, Lehigh, Elon, and High Point, among others.

Demonstrated interest is considered at Duke, NYU, Dartmouth, WashU, Tufts, Notre Dame, UMich, etc.

Demonstrated interest is not considered at Brown, MIT, Georgetown, CMU, JHU, UC Berkeley, Caltech, etc.

So, higher price for lower quality, schools, use DI to boost rankings and revenue.
I wouldn't accept a clingy spouse like that, and I wouldn't accept a clingy college like that.

Don't think of it as a clingy spouse.

I like how Denison talks about demonstrated interest:
Think of this as synonymous to when your crushes passed you notes in elementary school asking you if you liked them (we know, no one passes notes anymore). College admission kind of works the same way. We provide a lot of ways for you to learn more about us and for us to learn more about you. When you engage with us, we get the hint that you might like us. And of course, we want to admit people who like us. Again, there are so many ways to engage: visiting campus, participating in one of our many virtual offerings, completing an admission interview, reading our emails, submitting an arts supplement…the list goes on. And don’t forget, the best way to tell us you like us is to APPLY!

The Ivys and the other prestigious colleges are like the big man on campus (or big woman). The big men (women) on campus get plenty of girls/guys throwing themselves at them. They can easily get dates to the prom.

For those of us who aren't the big men/women on campus, would you go up to some random guy/gal you never spoke wtih before/you weren't sure s/he even knew you existed and ask them to the prom? Or would you put some feelers out beforehand?

That's all demonstrated interest is - putting the feelers out. Smiling at the nice boy while passing them in the hallway and seeing if he returns your smile. Making eye contact with the nice girl in class and saying hi to her in the hall. Will s/he smile back and say hi back to you? If s/he does, maybe you could ask them to the prom without fear of getting rejected. It's not like you need to go to her/his house to see them in order to see if they kinda like you back.

Wait, Denison actually wrote that?

They wrote the the paragraph after my sentence "I like how Denison talks about demonstrated interest".

The other paragraphs about the Ivys being big men on campus were all from me. But it is something we can relate to and view college's demonstrated interest through that lens since we all experienced some version of it as teens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA says it doesn’t care and doesn’t track it at all. UVA is very prestigious.

Can you please stop adding “UVA is very prestigious” to every post your make. It is so annoying and not as funny as you think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Demonstrated interest is very important at Olin, Dickinson, Morehouse, Syracuse, American, and Ithaca.

Demonstrated interest is important at Tulane, Bates, Kenyon, Lehigh, Elon, and High Point, among others.

Demonstrated interest is considered at Duke, NYU, Dartmouth, WashU, Tufts, Notre Dame, UMich, etc.

Demonstrated interest is not considered at Brown, MIT, Georgetown, CMU, JHU, UC Berkeley, Caltech, etc.

So, higher price for lower quality, schools, use DI to boost rankings and revenue.
I wouldn't accept a clingy spouse like that, and I wouldn't accept a clingy college like that.

Don't think of it as a clingy spouse.

I like how Denison talks about demonstrated interest:
Think of this as synonymous to when your crushes passed you notes in elementary school asking you if you liked them (we know, no one passes notes anymore). College admission kind of works the same way. We provide a lot of ways for you to learn more about us and for us to learn more about you. When you engage with us, we get the hint that you might like us. And of course, we want to admit people who like us. Again, there are so many ways to engage: visiting campus, participating in one of our many virtual offerings, completing an admission interview, reading our emails, submitting an arts supplement…the list goes on. And don’t forget, the best way to tell us you like us is to APPLY!

The Ivys and the other prestigious colleges are like the big man on campus (or big woman). The big men (women) on campus get plenty of girls/guys throwing themselves at them. They can easily get dates to the prom.

For those of us who aren't the big men/women on campus, would you go up to some random guy/gal you never spoke wtih before/you weren't sure s/he even knew you existed and ask them to the prom? Or would you put some feelers out beforehand?

That's all demonstrated interest is - putting the feelers out. Smiling at the nice boy while passing them in the hallway and seeing if he returns your smile. Making eye contact with the nice girl in class and saying hi to her in the hall. Will s/he smile back and say hi back to you? If s/he does, maybe you could ask them to the prom without fear of getting rejected. It's not like you need to go to her/his house to see them in order to see if they kinda like you back.

Wait, Denison actually wrote that?

They wrote the the paragraph after my sentence "I like how Denison talks about demonstrated interest".

The other paragraphs about the Ivys being big men on campus were all from me. But it is something we can relate to and view college's demonstrated interest through that lens since we all experienced some version of it as teens.

I expect it is true, but its a horrible analogy and makes me want to avoid all US colleges for my kids and send them home to Europe where this isn't a thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Demonstrated interest is very important at Olin, Dickinson, Morehouse, Syracuse, American, and Ithaca.

Demonstrated interest is important at Tulane, Bates, Kenyon, Lehigh, Elon, and High Point, among others.

Demonstrated interest is considered at Duke, NYU, Dartmouth, WashU, Tufts, Notre Dame, UMich, etc.

Demonstrated interest is not considered at Brown, MIT, Georgetown, CMU, JHU, UC Berkeley, Caltech, etc.

So, higher price for lower quality, schools, use DI to boost rankings and revenue.
I wouldn't accept a clingy spouse like that, and I wouldn't accept a clingy college like that.

Don't think of it as a clingy spouse.

I like how Denison talks about demonstrated interest:
Think of this as synonymous to when your crushes passed you notes in elementary school asking you if you liked them (we know, no one passes notes anymore). College admission kind of works the same way. We provide a lot of ways for you to learn more about us and for us to learn more about you. When you engage with us, we get the hint that you might like us. And of course, we want to admit people who like us. Again, there are so many ways to engage: visiting campus, participating in one of our many virtual offerings, completing an admission interview, reading our emails, submitting an arts supplement…the list goes on. And don’t forget, the best way to tell us you like us is to APPLY!

The Ivys and the other prestigious colleges are like the big man on campus (or big woman). The big men (women) on campus get plenty of girls/guys throwing themselves at them. They can easily get dates to the prom.

For those of us who aren't the big men/women on campus, would you go up to some random guy/gal you never spoke wtih before/you weren't sure s/he even knew you existed and ask them to the prom? Or would you put some feelers out beforehand?

That's all demonstrated interest is - putting the feelers out. Smiling at the nice boy while passing them in the hallway and seeing if he returns your smile. Making eye contact with the nice girl in class and saying hi to her in the hall. Will s/he smile back and say hi back to you? If s/he does, maybe you could ask them to the prom without fear of getting rejected. It's not like you need to go to her/his house to see them in order to see if they kinda like you back.

Wait, Denison actually wrote that?

They wrote the the paragraph after my sentence "I like how Denison talks about demonstrated interest".

The other paragraphs about the Ivys being big men on campus were all from me. But it is something we can relate to and view college's demonstrated interest through that lens since we all experienced some version of it as teens.

I expect it is true, but its a horrible analogy and makes me want to avoid all US colleges for my kids and send them home to Europe where this isn't a thing.

DP: I see--because one small liberal arts college makes the analogy you overgeneralize to all US colleges. You might need to work on your critical analytic skills a bit. Demonstrated interest is not a major thing for most schools. But send them back to Europe--those colleges are fine too. Many aren't stellar, but they are cheaper--especially if you have citizenship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Must be nice to have the money and time for "demonstratable interest"

Sorry if your child doesn't have the money or time to open emails from some of these schools, watch virtual videos about this school, attend virtual events from these schools, attend an event if they are coming to your area, see the admissions counselor if they are coming to your child's school, email the schools admission counselor to set up a virtual interview, etc.

With today's technology, there are more ways to show demonstrated interest than traveling to a campus to visit it.

+1 you can even sign up for virtual tours, which I assume are equivalent to an in-person event. Schools with the “I love” essay make it easy to tell who’s dialing it in.

+2 And, regardless of whether or not a school tracks demonstrated interest, kids should be doing the "demonstrated interest" things anyway so they can learn about the schools they are considering. If you aren't spending time on the website, opening email, doing a tour (virtual or in person), attending information sessions (virtual or in person), talking to the rep at a school visit, etc., how do you even know you want to go there??

[Anonymous]

Depends on the school so you have to do your research. My 1490, NMC commended, 7 APs, 4.3 weighted GPA kid got waitlisted by Skidmore. They should have gotten in easily but honestly they almost forgot that they wanted to apply there and never saw the school or interacted with it in any way. I actually tried to get them not to apply, but it was in the original plan and my kid likes to stick with the plans. They were definitely waitlisted because of lack of interest, which is fine because they- in fact- were not interested. But it is a thing for some schools. FYI said kid go into W&M, Tech, Loyola Md with a large scholarship, JMU honors, F&M with a scholarship….

[Anonymous]

1490 SAT and national merit commended- sorry, I typed too fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA says it doesn’t care and doesn’t track it at all. UVA is very prestigious.

LOL. Two years ago UVA sent my senior a postcard with his own personalized web link using his name. Tell me they don’t care about demonstrated interest with such a pricy stunt. Of course they tracking who opens it.

Ok, you’re right. Even though Dean J has stated repeatedly on her blog that UVA does not track interest in any way, shape or form and even though UVA says on the Common Data Set that demonstrated interest is “not considered,” it’s all a ruse and they’re lying.

Oh, and the 2020 election was stolen too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA says it doesn’t care and doesn’t track it at all. UVA is very prestigious.

Can you please stop adding “UVA is very prestigious” to every post your make. It is so annoying and not as funny as you think.

UVA is very prestigious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Demonstrated interest is very important at Olin, Dickinson, Morehouse, Syracuse, American, and Ithaca.

Demonstrated interest is important at Tulane, Bates, Kenyon, Lehigh, Elon, and High Point, among others.

Demonstrated interest is considered at Duke, NYU, Dartmouth, WashU, Tufts, Notre Dame, UMich, etc.

Demonstrated interest is not considered at Brown, MIT, Georgetown, CMU, JHU, UC Berkeley, Caltech, etc.

So, higher price for lower quality, schools, use DI to boost rankings and revenue.
I wouldn't accept a clingy spouse like that, and I wouldn't accept a clingy college like that.

Don't think of it as a clingy spouse.

I like how Denison talks about demonstrated interest:
Think of this as synonymous to when your crushes passed you notes in elementary school asking you if you liked them (we know, no one passes notes anymore). College admission kind of works the same way. We provide a lot of ways for you to learn more about us and for us to learn more about you. When you engage with us, we get the hint that you might like us. And of course, we want to admit people who like us. Again, there are so many ways to engage: visiting campus, participating in one of our many virtual offerings, completing an admission interview, reading our emails, submitting an arts supplement…the list goes on. And don’t forget, the best way to tell us you like us is to APPLY!

The Ivys and the other prestigious colleges are like the big man on campus (or big woman). The big men (women) on campus get plenty of girls/guys throwing themselves at them. They can easily get dates to the prom.

For those of us who aren't the big men/women on campus, would you go up to some random guy/gal you never spoke wtih before/you weren't sure s/he even knew you existed and ask them to the prom? Or would you put some feelers out beforehand?

That's all demonstrated interest is - putting the feelers out. Smiling at the nice boy while passing them in the hallway and seeing if he returns your smile. Making eye contact with the nice girl in class and saying hi to her in the hall. Will s/he smile back and say hi back to you? If s/he does, maybe you could ask them to the prom without fear of getting rejected. It's not like you need to go to her/his house to see them in order to see if they kinda like you back.

Wait, Denison actually wrote that?

They wrote the the paragraph after my sentence "I like how Denison talks about demonstrated interest".

The other paragraphs about the Ivys being big men on campus were all from me. But it is something we can relate to and view college's demonstrated interest through that lens since we all experienced some version of it as teens.

I expect it is true, but its a horrible analogy and makes me want to avoid all US colleges for my kids and send them home to Europe where this isn't a thing.

DP: I see--because one small liberal arts college makes the analogy you overgeneralize to all US colleges. You might need to work on your critical analytic skills a bit. Demonstrated interest is not a major thing for most schools. But send them back to Europe--those colleges are fine too. Many aren't stellar, but they are cheaper--especially if you have citizenship.

You might need to work on your information gathering skills. Some European countries charge "international status" for citizens who have not lived in the country for the immediate 2-3 years prior to attending the university. But please, carry on, you're doing a great job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA says it doesn’t care and doesn’t track it at all. UVA is very prestigious.

LOL. Two years ago UVA sent my senior a postcard with his own personalized web link using his name. Tell me they don’t care about demonstrated interest with such a pricy stunt. Of course they tracking who opens it.

Ok, you’re right. Even though Dean J has stated repeatedly on her blog that UVA does not track interest in any way, shape or form and even though UVA says on the Common Data Set that demonstrated interest is “not considered,” it’s all a ruse and they’re lying.

Oh, and the 2020 election was stolen too.

Okay, then humor me...why would UVA go to the trouble to do that? I mean the url had his name in it...is it just wow factor? Something else?

I'm not sure why I believe that was to show demonstrated interest (I'm not a follower of Dean J) means that the election was stolen, otherwise than to express your defensiveness.