Youngkin’s Power Grab

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:

Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.

Parents are in charge of the child’s education.

Lowest possible taxes.

Strong state university system.

Constitutional carry.




Strong state university system but no to the others.

1) No restrictions on abortion whatsoever. That is between a woman/family and the doctor.

2) Parents are not “in charge” of their children’s education. The schools are in charge. The schools know better and have training in pedagogy and set the curriculum. Parents need to stay in their lanes. They’re not important stakeholders.

3) we want more gun control, not “constitutional carry.” Ideally, we should confiscate guns from most people. Anyone caught carrying a hidden gun should be imprisoned for a minimum of 30 years. We are sick of guns in this country.

Taxes will be what they are for things like a strong state university system and other public goods.


Fortunately, the majority of Virginia’s voters — both Ds and Rs — disagree with your extremist views.

And stop using “we.” You’re one person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:

Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.

Parents are in charge of the child’s education.

Lowest possible taxes.

Strong state university system.

Constitutional carry.




+1
Strong state university system but no to the others.

1) No restrictions on abortion whatsoever. That is between a woman/family and the doctor.

2) Parents are not “in charge” of their children’s education. The schools are in charge. The schools know better and have training in pedagogy and set the curriculum. Parents need to stay in their lanes. They’re not important stakeholders.

3) we want more gun control, not “constitutional carry.” Ideally, we should confiscate guns from most people. Anyone caught carrying a hidden gun should be imprisoned for a minimum of 30 years. We are sick of guns in this country.

Taxes will be what they are for things like a strong state university system and other public goods.


Fortunately, the majority of Virginia’s voters — both Ds and Rs — disagree with your extremist views.

And stop using “we.” You’re one person.


+1 They are clueless to the fact that they are left-wing nuts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vanity Fair has an interesting article out about Youngkin. “The Virginia governor is getting presidential buzz, but he’s focused on winning a Republican trifecta this November—an “off-off year” election that could catapult his career. The state’s senators are sounding the alarm bells: “I’m a little bit amazed that this isn’t a higher priority at the White House,” Senator Mark Warner tells VF.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/glenn-youngkin-2024-presidential-election-virginia-general-assembly





Name one governor of a state that isn’t a trifecta (there aren’t many left) who wouldn’t be focused on having his/her party retain the governorship and win both chambers of the state legislature…

It’s a stupid article.


The point is there are serious consequences if that happens in VA.

It’s shocking that more people aren’t talking about what’s at stake.


“…serious consequences…”
“…It’s shocking…”

Please. Tone down the hyperbolic adjectives and adverbs.

Youngkin isn’t proposing anything extreme, especially compared to a myriad of other states. Sure, you may disagree with these policies, and that’s your right. But first take your head out of the cloud of paranoia.
Anonymous
If Youngkin is going all in on anti-abortion then he's already lost.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Vanity Fair has an interesting article out about Youngkin. “The Virginia governor is getting presidential buzz, but he’s focused on winning a Republican trifecta this November—an “off-off year” election that could catapult his career. The state’s senators are sounding the alarm bells: “I’m a little bit amazed that this isn’t a higher priority at the White House,” Senator Mark Warner tells VF.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/glenn-youngkin-2024-presidential-election-virginia-general-assembly





Name one governor of a state that isn’t a trifecta (there aren’t many left) who wouldn’t be focused on having his/her party retain the governorship and win both chambers of the state legislature…

It’s a stupid article.


The point is there are serious consequences if that happens in VA.

It’s shocking that more people aren’t talking about what’s at stake.


“…serious consequences…”
“…It’s shocking…”

Please. Tone down the hyperbolic adjectives and adverbs.

Youngkin isn’t proposing anything extreme, especially compared to a myriad of other states. Sure, you may disagree with these policies, and that’s your right. But first take your head out of the cloud of paranoia.


How is women losing health care hyperbolic or not shocking in the year 2023?

Youngkin has already said that he will sign any bill that comes his way. He’s already in office (thanks, misogynists), so that part is a done deal.

The big issue now are the potential R state senators who will write or support the crazy anti-women bills.

You must not know or care about any women to be so indifferent about this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If Youngkin is going all in on anti-abortion then he's already lost.


That’s exactly why some people want to pretend like this isn’t a real issue.

He’s not running - it’s the va general assembly that is at risk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:

Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.

Parents are in charge of the child’s education.

Lowest possible taxes.

Strong state university system.

Constitutional carry.




Strong state university system but no to the others.

1) No restrictions on abortion whatsoever. That is between a woman/family and the doctor.

2) Parents are not “in charge” of their children’s education. The schools are in charge. The schools know better and have training in pedagogy and set the curriculum. Parents need to stay in their lanes. They’re not important stakeholders.

3) we want more gun control, not “constitutional carry.” Ideally, we should confiscate guns from most people. Anyone caught carrying a hidden gun should be imprisoned for a minimum of 30 years. We are sick of guns in this country.

Taxes will be what they are for things like a strong state university system and other public goods.


Fortunately, the majority of Virginia’s voters — both Ds and Rs — disagree with your extremist views.

And stop using “we.” You’re one person.


The PP isn’t extremist at all. We - the majority of voters - agree with most of what they said.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:

Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.

Parents are in charge of the child’s education.

Lowest possible taxes.

Strong state university system.

Constitutional carry.




Strong state university system but no to the others.

1) No restrictions on abortion whatsoever. That is between a woman/family and the doctor.

2) Parents are not “in charge” of their children’s education. The schools are in charge. The schools know better and have training in pedagogy and set the curriculum. Parents need to stay in their lanes. They’re not important stakeholders.

3) we want more gun control, not “constitutional carry.” Ideally, we should confiscate guns from most people. Anyone caught carrying a hidden gun should be imprisoned for a minimum of 30 years. We are sick of guns in this country.

Taxes will be what they are for things like a strong state university system and other public goods.


Fortunately, the majority of Virginia’s voters — both Ds and Rs — disagree with your extremist views.

And stop using “we.” You’re one person.


No, my views are mainstream. You are the one wildly out of touch with community values
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:

Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.

Parents are in charge of the child’s education.

Lowest possible taxes.

Strong state university system.

Constitutional carry.




Strong state university system but no to the others.

1) No restrictions on abortion whatsoever. That is between a woman/family and the doctor.

2) Parents are not “in charge” of their children’s education. The schools are in charge. The schools know better and have training in pedagogy and set the curriculum. Parents need to stay in their lanes. They’re not important stakeholders.

3) we want more gun control, not “constitutional carry.” Ideally, we should confiscate guns from most people. Anyone caught carrying a hidden gun should be imprisoned for a minimum of 30 years. We are sick of guns in this country.

Taxes will be what they are for things like a strong state university system and other public goods.


Fortunately, the majority of Virginia’s voters — both Ds and Rs — disagree with your extremist views.

And stop using “we.” You’re one person.


No, my views are mainstream. You are the one wildly out of touch with community values


+1

Virginia wants women to have the right to control their own body.

Virginia wants common sense gun control.

Virginia wants good schools - which means empowering teachers and paying taxes.

Unfortunately, an unscrupulous, extremist minority in our country has been lying and cheating their way into power. Virginia had to fight back or it will turn into another red state dump.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:

Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.

Parents are in charge of the child’s education.

Lowest possible taxes.

Strong state university system.

Constitutional carry.




Strong state university system but no to the others.

1) No restrictions on abortion whatsoever. That is between a woman/family and the doctor.

2) Parents are not “in charge” of their children’s education. The schools are in charge. The schools know better and have training in pedagogy and set the curriculum. Parents need to stay in their lanes. They’re not important stakeholders.

3) we want more gun control, not “constitutional carry.” Ideally, we should confiscate guns from most people. Anyone caught carrying a hidden gun should be imprisoned for a minimum of 30 years. We are sick of guns in this country.

Taxes will be what they are for things like a strong state university system and other public goods.


Fortunately, the majority of Virginia’s voters — both Ds and Rs — disagree with your extremist views.

And stop using “we.” You’re one person.


No, my views are mainstream. You are the one wildly out of touch with community values


Laughable. And the upcoming elections will prove so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Youngkin is going all in on anti-abortion then he's already lost.


That’s exactly why some people want to pretend like this isn’t a real issue.

He’s not running - it’s the va general assembly that is at risk.


Segura is out with TV ads lying about so many things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:

Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.

Parents are in charge of the child’s education.

Lowest possible taxes.

Strong state university system.

Constitutional carry.




Strong state university system but no to the others.

1) No restrictions on abortion whatsoever. That is between a woman/family and the doctor.

2) Parents are not “in charge” of their children’s education. The schools are in charge. The schools know better and have training in pedagogy and set the curriculum. Parents need to stay in their lanes. They’re not important stakeholders.

3) we want more gun control, not “constitutional carry.” Ideally, we should confiscate guns from most people. Anyone caught carrying a hidden gun should be imprisoned for a minimum of 30 years. We are sick of guns in this country.

Taxes will be what they are for things like a strong state university system and other public goods.


Fortunately, the majority of Virginia’s voters — both Ds and Rs — disagree with your extremist views.

And stop using “we.” You’re one person.


No, my views are mainstream. You are the one wildly out of touch with community values


Laughable. And the upcoming elections will prove so.


You are right. They will. The election results will look like the seven contests since Dobbs where abortion rights won overwhelmingly. This is why Republicans are so terrified about their chances.

It’s so easy to tar Youngkin’s proxies as anti-abortion zealots and Trump acolytes. Segura, for example, is a terrible candidate. He reminds me of Hung Cao, who failed miserably against Jennifer Wexton.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so scared about the General Assembly. If they take the Senate, say goodbye to women's rights in VA.

Remember all of those people justifying their Youngkin vote saying that RvW wasn't going anywhere? F you.


If abortion is on the ballot (and Democrats absolutely should put it there), Youngkin will fail miserably.

He only won because McAuliffe was a bad candidate the second time around and made that gaffe about parents staying out of education. He was RIGHT of course, but it was the way he said it. Between that and scaring a bunch of NOVA southeast Asians that elite education programs were in danger, Youngkin squeaked into office.

But the education stuff won’t hunt anymore. Miyares and his investigation of Loudoun flamed out dramatically, parents see right through the idiotic war in woke stuff, and there’s no way Youngkin surrogates will win with similar messaging.

Put abortion on the ballot and Dems will run the table.


You overlook the part where it’s noted that Youngkin has a 57% approval rating in a state where Biden has a 40% approval rating.

Until the Democrats stop with the self-inflicted wounds, recognize merit, and embrace equal opportunity rather than equal outcomes, they will continue to lose support.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:

Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.

Parents are in charge of the child’s education.

Lowest possible taxes.

Strong state university system.

Constitutional carry.




Please tell me more about this parents are in “charge of the child’s education.” So some uneducated bigot gets to decide that because they don’t want their kid to learn about slavery, none of our kids can. Or do you just want your kid to be able to opt out of US history and study the Bible?


DP. Sorry - who, exactly, has said they "don't want their kid to learn about slavery"? Do you generally make up lies as you go along, or just on Youngkin threads?


Republicans love to gaslight. Youngkin created a tip line as a vehicle to enforce his first executive order to “end the use of inherently divisive concepts, including Critical Race Theory” in K-12 schools. The executive order does not define critical race theory, or CRT, which is an academic framework not formally taught in any K-12 school curricula. The term has become a buzzword among conservatives that has been used to describe almost any acknowledgment of racial inequality in U.S. history or current events. Rhetoric criticizing CRT was a key feature of Youngkin’s election campaign. So yes, you Republicans are able to call in and complain about slavery being taught. And don’t lie and pretend that you aren’t the party of Ron DeSantis trying to teach kids that slavery was good for the slaves because it taught them skills. Feel free to educate me on the evils of CRT though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:

Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.

Parents are in charge of the child’s education.

Lowest possible taxes.

Strong state university system.

Constitutional carry.




Strong state university system but no to the others.

1) No restrictions on abortion whatsoever. That is between a woman/family and the doctor.

2) Parents are not “in charge” of their children’s education. The schools are in charge. The schools know better and have training in pedagogy and set the curriculum. Parents need to stay in their lanes. They’re not important stakeholders.

3) we want more gun control, not “constitutional carry.” Ideally, we should confiscate guns from most people. Anyone caught carrying a hidden gun should be imprisoned for a minimum of 30 years. We are sick of guns in this country.

Taxes will be what they are for things like a strong state university system and other public goods.


Look, I'm a lefty but parents are absolutely important stakeholders in children's education. Teachers on this board tell us this every day.
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