Youngkin’s Power Grab

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

That was the entire point of overturning Dobbs. Democrats like to turn it into the sky is falling because some wackadoo Republican disagrees personally with the procedure, but the point of overturning it federally was to let each state decide what they want. If all 50 states want to put it on the ballot- great. Again, that was the point.

Alternative facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

That's nonsense.
I live in a state that put it on the ballot.
All the R's did was fight for the motion not to go to the ballot. It's like they really didn't want people to vote so their voice was heard.
And when that didn't work, they put out misleading ads making the issue about "parents rights"
The last thing Rs want is people actually getting to vote about abortion. They know they will lose.

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-2022-midterm-elections-michigan-constitutions-f1265f148547a88f1e69fb2ff154a190

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/ohio-votes-abortion-rights-fall-misinformation-proposal-spreading-102881654

https://kansasreflector.com/2023/05/18/church-and-state-kansas-republicans-ignore-voters-and-pass-new-anti-abortion-laws/

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

That was the entire point of overturning Dobbs. Democrats like to turn it into the sky is falling because some wackadoo Republican disagrees personally with the procedure, but the point of overturning it federally was to let each state decide what they want. If all 50 states want to put it on the ballot- great. Again, that was the point.

Alternative facts.

Not really, Dobbs was a bad ruling. Even RBG knew it. There was never a constitutional right to abortion. 50 states now have the ability to find a reasonable solution as does the Congress and White House. The decision forces an outcome based on how Government in the US works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

That was the entire point of overturning Dobbs. Democrats like to turn it into the sky is falling because some wackadoo Republican disagrees personally with the procedure, but the point of overturning it federally was to let each state decide what they want. If all 50 states want to put it on the ballot- great. Again, that was the point.

Yes, but the states are NOT putting it on the ballot! Only very few have. And that was the point! They won’t let the people in the states vote on it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

That's nonsense.
I live in a state that put it on the ballot.
All the R's did was fight for the motion not to go to the ballot. It's like they really didn't want people to vote so their voice was heard.
And when that didn't work, they put out misleading ads making the issue about "parents rights"
The last thing Rs want is people actually getting to vote about abortion. They know they will lose.

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-2022-midterm-elections-michigan-constitutions-f1265f148547a88f1e69fb2ff154a190

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/ohio-votes-abortion-rights-fall-misinformation-proposal-spreading-102881654

https://kansasreflector.com/2023/05/18/church-and-state-kansas-republicans-ignore-voters-and-pass-new-anti-abortion-laws/

Etc...

That’s what I meant, I agree with you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

That was the entire point of overturning Dobbs. Democrats like to turn it into the sky is falling because some wackadoo Republican disagrees personally with the procedure, but the point of overturning it federally was to let each state decide what they want. If all 50 states want to put it on the ballot- great. Again, that was the point.

Alternative facts.

DP. How so? The PP is correct. Roe v Wade wasn't "overturned" - it was sent to each state to decide. Get a grip and face ACTUAL facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

That was the entire point of overturning Dobbs. Democrats like to turn it into the sky is falling because some wackadoo Republican disagrees personally with the procedure, but the point of overturning it federally was to let each state decide what they want. If all 50 states want to put it on the ballot- great. Again, that was the point.

Alternative facts.

DP. How so? The PP is correct. Roe v Wade wasn't "overturned" - it was sent to each state to decide. Get a grip and face ACTUAL facts.

It was "settled law of the land" - it no longer is and now we have states policing whether women may travel out of state and they are declaring 11 year old girls who have been raped to be felons. Those are the ACTUAL sick facts this nation is now facing. Stop with your gaslighting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

That was the entire point of overturning Dobbs. Democrats like to turn it into the sky is falling because some wackadoo Republican disagrees personally with the procedure, but the point of overturning it federally was to let each state decide what they want. If all 50 states want to put it on the ballot- great. Again, that was the point.

Alternative facts.

DP. How so? The PP is correct. Roe v Wade wasn't "overturned" - it was sent to each state to decide. Get a grip and face ACTUAL facts.

It was "settled law of the land" - it no longer is and now we have states policing whether women may travel out of state and they are declaring 11 year old girls who have been raped to be felons. Those are the ACTUAL sick facts this nation is now facing. Stop with your gaslighting.

No, Roe was not “settled law of the land.” It was a legal precedent built upon a very shaky foundation and an exceptionally wide interpretation of the right to privacy.

Many people on the Right effectively worked over 50 years to exploit Roe’s legal weakness while many people on the Left, like you presumably, blindly thought it could never be overturned. Others on the Left, like Ginsburg, believed putting a right to abortion under the equal protection clause created a stronger legal foundation.

The bottom line is people on the Left will have to wait until the Supreme Court is more ideologically moderate or center-Left at some point in the future before Dobbs can be challenged. Hopefully, a future Court will do a better job to protect women than Blackmun did in 1973.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

That was the entire point of overturning Dobbs. Democrats like to turn it into the sky is falling because some wackadoo Republican disagrees personally with the procedure, but the point of overturning it federally was to let each state decide what they want. If all 50 states want to put it on the ballot- great. Again, that was the point.

Alternative facts.

DP. How so? The PP is correct. Roe v Wade wasn't "overturned" - it was sent to each state to decide. Get a grip and face ACTUAL facts.

The protection for all women in the US was overturned.

The right for women to make reproductive choices for themselves shouldn’t vary based on the state they live in. It’s a basic human right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

That was the entire point of overturning Dobbs. Democrats like to turn it into the sky is falling because some wackadoo Republican disagrees personally with the procedure, but the point of overturning it federally was to let each state decide what they want. If all 50 states want to put it on the ballot- great. Again, that was the point.

Alternative facts.

DP. How so? The PP is correct. Roe v Wade wasn't "overturned" - it was sent to each state to decide. Get a grip and face ACTUAL facts.

It was "settled law of the land" - it no longer is and now we have states policing whether women may travel out of state and they are declaring 11 year old girls who have been raped to be felons. Those are the ACTUAL sick facts this nation is now facing. Stop with your gaslighting.

No, Roe was not “settled law of the land.” It was a legal precedent built upon a very shaky foundation and an exceptionally wide interpretation of the right to privacy.

Many people on the Right effectively worked over 50 years to exploit Roe’s legal weakness while many people on the Left, like you presumably, blindly thought it could never be overturned. Others on the Left, like Ginsburg, believed putting a right to abortion under the equal protection clause created a stronger legal foundation.

The bottom line is people on the Left will have to wait until the Supreme Court is more ideologically moderate or center-Left at some point in the future before Dobbs can be challenged. Hopefully, a future Court will do a better job to protect women than Blackmun did in 1973.

It was “settled as a precedent of the court."

“It is settled as a precedent of the Supreme Court, entitled the respect under principles of stare decisis," Kavanaugh said. "The Supreme Court has recognized the right to abortion since the 1973 Roe v. Wade case. It has reaffirmed it many times."


During his confirmation hearing, Roberts repeatedly declined to comment on Roe beyond saying he believed it was "settled as a precedent of the court."

For the court to overturn a prior decision, Roberts said he thought it was not sufficient to believe the case had been wrongly decided. The justices would have to consider other factors too, he said, "like settled expectations, like the legitimacy of the court, like whether a particular precedent is workable or not, whether a precedent has been eroded by subsequent developments."


"I would tell you that Roe v. Wade, decided in 1973, is a precedent of the United States Supreme Court. It has been reaffirmed," Gorsuch said. "A good judge will consider it as precedent of the U.S. Supreme Court worthy as treatment of precedent like any other."

In the exchange, Gorsuch acknowledged that the Supreme Court had held that a fetus is not a person for the purposes of the 14th Amendment's due process clause, a legal underpinning of Roe v. Wade.

"Do you accept that?" asked Durbin.

"That is the law of the land. I accept the law of the land, senator, yes," Gorsuch replied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

That was the entire point of overturning Dobbs. Democrats like to turn it into the sky is falling because some wackadoo Republican disagrees personally with the procedure, but the point of overturning it federally was to let each state decide what they want. If all 50 states want to put it on the ballot- great. Again, that was the point.

100% BS. If the Rs have the votes in Congress they would absolutely further restrict/ban abortion at the federal level.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/house-republicans-use-new-majority-to-approve-anti-abortion-measures

They are trying to downplay that now that elections are approaching.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:

Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.

Parents are in charge of the child’s education.

Lowest possible taxes.

Strong state university system.

Constitutional carry.

These are not things that “sane” people want.

16w is WAY too early.
Taxes: you get what you pay for

Nutters should not carry guns or make educational decisions for school districts.

I had an abortion at 20 weeks. My son had already died due to a condition we knew about and were monitoring since our scan at 12 weeks. But it was still an “abortion” because that’s what they call the procedure.

16 weeks is not too early. Not even close. You don’t know what you’re talking about. These are human beings.

Let’s be totally clear. You would not have been able to terminate your pregnancy. No abortion means no abortion. Under an abortion ban, You would have carried your fetus to term, or until your body naturally went in to labor, or until you were near death from sepsis, or until you died of sepsis.

Your post is false. Youngkin's position on abortion provides exceptions for risks to a woman's health.

Youngkin position is he will sign anything the VA GOP brings to him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All any sane person wants is:

Abortion up to 16 weeks, later if medically necessary for like of the mother or in cases of rape on incest.

Parents are in charge of the child’s education.

Lowest possible taxes.

Strong state university system.

Constitutional carry.

These are not things that “sane” people want.

16w is WAY too early.
Taxes: you get what you pay for

Nutters should not carry guns or make educational decisions for school districts.

I had an abortion at 20 weeks. My son had already died due to a condition we knew about and were monitoring since our scan at 12 weeks. But it was still an “abortion” because that’s what they call the procedure.

16 weeks is not too early. Not even close. You don’t know what you’re talking about. These are human beings.

Let’s be totally clear. You would not have been able to terminate your pregnancy. No abortion means no abortion. Under an abortion ban, You would have carried your fetus to term, or until your body naturally went in to labor, or until you were near death from sepsis, or until you died of sepsis.

Your post is false. Youngkin's position on abortion provides exceptions for risks to a woman's health.

“Risk to a woman’s health” is too vague, and will always be too vague. Basically that’s playing out right now in other states as “wait until an easy treatment becomes life threatening one way or another, once she is knocking on death’s door, then we will be allowed to try to save her life (and her fertility)”.

Politicians need to stay out of wombs and out of practicing medicine, because they are all too dumb.

+1

I trust doctors and women to make the best decisions for women’s health care. Not religious extremists with limited understanding of reproductive care. Or biology in some cases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All every state needs to do is put abortion on the ballot like they did in Kansas.

No, we need federal protection for women.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so scared about the General Assembly. If they take the Senate, say goodbye to women's rights in VA.

Remember all of those people justifying their Youngkin vote saying that RvW wasn't going anywhere? F you.

If abortion is on the ballot (and Democrats absolutely should put it there), Youngkin will fail miserably.

He only won because McAuliffe was a bad candidate the second time around and made that gaffe about parents staying out of education. He was RIGHT of course, but it was the way he said it. Between that and scaring a bunch of NOVA southeast Asians that elite education programs were in danger, Youngkin squeaked into office.

But the education stuff won’t hunt anymore. Miyares and his investigation of Loudoun flamed out dramatically, parents see right through the idiotic war in woke stuff, and there’s no way Youngkin surrogates will win with similar messaging.

Put abortion on the ballot and Dems will run the table.

You overlook the part where it’s noted that Youngkin has a 57% approval rating in a state where Biden has a 40% approval rating.

Until the Democrats stop with the self-inflicted wounds, recognize merit, and embrace equal opportunity rather than equal outcomes, they will continue to lose support.

Democrats support women. Period.

Either that's important to you or it's not.

There are many, many women who disagree and do not support Democrats.

Yes, clearly some women don’t want to support other women. We’ve all met women like that at some point in our lives.

I don't think you can comprehend that they have other viewpoints.

Yes, we understand their viewpoint. They DGAF about other women. And they get sick satisfaction from forcing their beliefs on others.

They care about other women just fine, they just don't agree with opinionated left wing political hacks.
Both are entitled to their own opinions, but to say they don't care about other women is incorrect.
Again its not "we" unless you suffer from schizophrenia.

No, they don’t believe women should receive reproductive health care from their doctor. They don’t think women should make decisions about their own body and life.

They clearly DGAF about other women. We, the women who value other women, do see this very clearly.