7/24/23 Trial of Usman Shahid -- driver who killed two Oakton teens

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I posted this before but will repeat it. Don’t hold your breath that this individual will get a long sentence. I know an adult who was very drunk and killed two people with their car and got just three years of jail time.

in what state?

MD

Then I'm not surprised.

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What court is he being tried under? His case does not show up under the Fairfax County District Court.

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Anonymous wrote:What court is he being tried under? His case does not show up under the Fairfax County District Court.

I think this type of crime would be in circuit court.

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Has there been a verdict yet?

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Anonymous wrote:I posted this before but will repeat it. Don’t hold your breath that this individual will get a long sentence. I know an adult who was very drunk and killed two people with their car and got just three years of jail time.

Three years seems probable for a plea agreement. But he’s taking this to a jury so I assume he’s risking five to ten.

A judge would give only 3 years for killing 2 innocent victims?! No wonder people aren't afraid to speed. No real consequences. Shameful.

If your murder weapon is a car, it’s an automatic reduced sentence.

Good way of putting it. Recklessly fire a gun and you’ll get 20+, but drive a car at 81 past a school and no one cares as much.

Well, no, if you were firing a gun in target practice and not careful to clear the area first or something like that and killed someone as a result, you would not get 20 in that situation either. Let's remember this was an 18 year old without a fully developed frontal lobe. Not saying he does not deserve years in prison, but people talking about the death penalty and life in prison are crazy. It was an accident. A reckless accident for sure, but there was no intent to murder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this before but will repeat it. Don’t hold your breath that this individual will get a long sentence. I know an adult who was very drunk and killed two people with their car and got just three years of jail time.

Three years seems probable for a plea agreement. But he’s taking this to a jury so I assume he’s risking five to ten.

An accident? He didn’t oops slip on a banana peel. He knowingly drove recklessly.
A judge would give only 3 years for killing 2 innocent victims?! No wonder people aren't afraid to speed. No real consequences. Shameful.

If your murder weapon is a car, it’s an automatic reduced sentence.

Good way of putting it. Recklessly fire a gun and you’ll get 20+, but drive a car at 81 past a school and no one cares as much.

Well, no, if you were firing a gun in target practice and not careful to clear the area first or something like that and killed someone as a result, you would not get 20 in that situation either. Let's remember this was an 18 year old without a fully developed frontal lobe. Not saying he does not deserve years in prison, but people talking about the death penalty and life in prison are crazy. It was an accident. A reckless accident for sure, but there was no intent to murder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this before but will repeat it. Don’t hold your breath that this individual will get a long sentence. I know an adult who was very drunk and killed two people with their car and got just three years of jail time.

Three years seems probable for a plea agreement. But he’s taking this to a jury so I assume he’s risking five to ten.

A judge would give only 3 years for killing 2 innocent victims?! No wonder people aren't afraid to speed. No real consequences. Shameful.

If your murder weapon is a car, it’s an automatic reduced sentence.

Good way of putting it. Recklessly fire a gun and you’ll get 20+, but drive a car at 81 past a school and no one cares as much.

Well, no, if you were firing a gun in target practice and not careful to clear the area first or something like that and killed someone as a result, you would not get 20 in that situation either. Let's remember this was an 18 year old without a fully developed frontal lobe. Not saying he does not deserve years in prison, but people talking about the death penalty and life in prison are crazy. It was an accident. A reckless accident for sure, but there was no intent to murder.

An accident? He didn’t oops slip on a banana peel. He knowingly drove recklessly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this before but will repeat it. Don’t hold your breath that this individual will get a long sentence. I know an adult who was very drunk and killed two people with their car and got just three years of jail time.

Three years seems probable for a plea agreement. But he’s taking this to a jury so I assume he’s risking five to ten.

An accident? He didn’t oops slip on a banana peel. He knowingly drove recklessly.
A judge would give only 3 years for killing 2 innocent victims?! No wonder people aren't afraid to speed. No real consequences. Shameful.

If your murder weapon is a car, it’s an automatic reduced sentence.

Good way of putting it. Recklessly fire a gun and you’ll get 20+, but drive a car at 81 past a school and no one cares as much.

Well, no, if you were firing a gun in target practice and not careful to clear the area first or something like that and killed someone as a result, you would not get 20 in that situation either. Let's remember this was an 18 year old without a fully developed frontal lobe. Not saying he does not deserve years in prison, but people talking about the death penalty and life in prison are crazy. It was an accident. A reckless accident for sure, but there was no intent to murder.

Exactly what is a person's intent when they drive 81 mph in a 35 mph zone? Unless he is intellectually challenged, he knew what could happen and did not care.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this before but will repeat it. Don’t hold your breath that this individual will get a long sentence. I know an adult who was very drunk and killed two people with their car and got just three years of jail time.

Three years seems probable for a plea agreement. But he’s taking this to a jury so I assume he’s risking five to ten.

An accident? He didn’t oops slip on a banana peel. He knowingly drove recklessly.
A judge would give only 3 years for killing 2 innocent victims?! No wonder people aren't afraid to speed. No real consequences. Shameful.

If your murder weapon is a car, it’s an automatic reduced sentence.

Good way of putting it. Recklessly fire a gun and you’ll get 20+, but drive a car at 81 past a school and no one cares as much.

Well, no, if you were firing a gun in target practice and not careful to clear the area first or something like that and killed someone as a result, you would not get 20 in that situation either. Let's remember this was an 18 year old without a fully developed frontal lobe. Not saying he does not deserve years in prison, but people talking about the death penalty and life in prison are crazy. It was an accident. A reckless accident for sure, but there was no intent to murder.

Exactly what is a person's intent when they drive 81 mph in a 35 mph zone? Unless he is intellectually challenged, he knew what could happen and did not care.

When I was just out of high school, a kid from my class was hit by a drunk driver as the kid was walking around his car to be the DD. The guy was charged with 2nd degree murder - when you drink as much as that guy did, you are knowingly brandishing a deadly weapon. I just googled and he ended up being convincted of involuntary manslaughter - he got 10 years in prison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this before but will repeat it. Don’t hold your breath that this individual will get a long sentence. I know an adult who was very drunk and killed two people with their car and got just three years of jail time.

Three years seems probable for a plea agreement. But he’s taking this to a jury so I assume he’s risking five to ten.

An accident? He didn’t oops slip on a banana peel. He knowingly drove recklessly.
A judge would give only 3 years for killing 2 innocent victims?! No wonder people aren't afraid to speed. No real consequences. Shameful.

If your murder weapon is a car, it’s an automatic reduced sentence.

Good way of putting it. Recklessly fire a gun and you’ll get 20+, but drive a car at 81 past a school and no one cares as much.

Well, no, if you were firing a gun in target practice and not careful to clear the area first or something like that and killed someone as a result, you would not get 20 in that situation either. Let's remember this was an 18 year old without a fully developed frontal lobe. Not saying he does not deserve years in prison, but people talking about the death penalty and life in prison are crazy. It was an accident. A reckless accident for sure, but there was no intent to murder.

Exactly what is a person's intent when they drive 81 mph in a 35 mph zone? Unless he is intellectually challenged, he knew what could happen and did not care.

When I was just out of high school, a kid from my class was hit by a drunk driver as the kid was walking around his car to be the DD. The guy was charged with 2nd degree murder - when you drink as much as that guy did, you are knowingly brandishing a deadly weapon. I just googled and he ended up being convincted of involuntary manslaughter - he got 10 years in prison.

+1 as he should have...or more.

[Anonymous]

And if parents are so concerned that their dear chikd doesn't have a fully developed brain and has so much potential, then don't buy him or her an expensive high speed vehicle.

[Anonymous]

The parents failed this brat by buying him a BMW sports car. Of course an 18 year-old male going to recklessly speed in a sports car.

He should've been driving a Corolla or a Crosstrek.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this before but will repeat it. Don’t hold your breath that this individual will get a long sentence. I know an adult who was very drunk and killed two people with their car and got just three years of jail time.

Three years seems probable for a plea agreement. But he’s taking this to a jury so I assume he’s risking five to ten.

An accident? He didn’t oops slip on a banana peel. He knowingly drove recklessly.
A judge would give only 3 years for killing 2 innocent victims?! No wonder people aren't afraid to speed. No real consequences. Shameful.

If your murder weapon is a car, it’s an automatic reduced sentence.

Good way of putting it. Recklessly fire a gun and you’ll get 20+, but drive a car at 81 past a school and no one cares as much.

Well, no, if you were firing a gun in target practice and not careful to clear the area first or something like that and killed someone as a result, you would not get 20 in that situation either. Let's remember this was an 18 year old without a fully developed frontal lobe. Not saying he does not deserve years in prison, but people talking about the death penalty and life in prison are crazy. It was an accident. A reckless accident for sure, but there was no intent to murder.

Exactly what is a person's intent when they drive 81 mph in a 35 mph zone? Unless he is intellectually challenged, he knew what could happen and did not care.

When I was just out of high school, a kid from my class was hit by a drunk driver as the kid was walking around his car to be the DD. The guy was charged with 2nd degree murder - when you drink as much as that guy did, you are knowingly brandishing a deadly weapon. I just googled and he ended up being convincted of involuntary manslaughter - he got 10 years in prison.

Yet the drunk (rich) kid in McLean, who killed the other high school student only got house arrest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this before but will repeat it. Don’t hold your breath that this individual will get a long sentence. I know an adult who was very drunk and killed two people with their car and got just three years of jail time.

Three years seems probable for a plea agreement. But he’s taking this to a jury so I assume he’s risking five to ten.

A judge would give only 3 years for killing 2 innocent victims?! No wonder people aren't afraid to speed. No real consequences. Shameful.

If your murder weapon is a car, it’s an automatic reduced sentence.

Good way of putting it. Recklessly fire a gun and you’ll get 20+, but drive a car at 81 past a school and no one cares as much.

Well, no, if you were firing a gun in target practice and not careful to clear the area first or something like that and killed someone as a result, you would not get 20 in that situation either. Let's remember this was an 18 year old without a fully developed frontal lobe. Not saying he does not deserve years in prison, but people talking about the death penalty and life in prison are crazy. It was an accident. A reckless accident for sure, but there was no intent to murder.

How do you drive without a fully developed frontal lobe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this before but will repeat it. Don’t hold your breath that this individual will get a long sentence. I know an adult who was very drunk and killed two people with their car and got just three years of jail time.

Three years seems probable for a plea agreement. But he’s taking this to a jury so I assume he’s risking five to ten.

An accident? He didn’t oops slip on a banana peel. He knowingly drove recklessly.
A judge would give only 3 years for killing 2 innocent victims?! No wonder people aren't afraid to speed. No real consequences. Shameful.

If your murder weapon is a car, it’s an automatic reduced sentence.

Good way of putting it. Recklessly fire a gun and you’ll get 20+, but drive a car at 81 past a school and no one cares as much.

Well, no, if you were firing a gun in target practice and not careful to clear the area first or something like that and killed someone as a result, you would not get 20 in that situation either. Let's remember this was an 18 year old without a fully developed frontal lobe. Not saying he does not deserve years in prison, but people talking about the death penalty and life in prison are crazy. It was an accident. A reckless accident for sure, but there was no intent to murder.

Exactly what is a person's intent when they drive 81 mph in a 35 mph zone? Unless he is intellectually challenged, he knew what could happen and did not care.

When I was just out of high school, a kid from my class was hit by a drunk driver as the kid was walking around his car to be the DD. The guy was charged with 2nd degree murder - when you drink as much as that guy did, you are knowingly brandishing a deadly weapon. I just googled and he ended up being convincted of involuntary manslaughter - he got 10 years in prison.

Yet the drunk (rich) kid in McLean, who killed the other high school student only got house arrest.

The benefits of being 17 years and 10 months vs. over 18.