
THEIR seats? So entitled. You didn’t PAY for anyone’s lunch. Such delusion. |
You have not been following what has transpired in states that implemented this policy. Bottom line is Black admits will sharply decline and Asian admits will increase. |
Agree. |
Time will tell whether it’s true or I am being delusional. If you truly believe URMs have what it takes with or without AA, you really have nothing to worry about. Either way, it was a super good decision for Asian families. |
Such a sad, hate-filled and ignorant thread. |
Both sides are equally resentful. One by history the other by a bad law. |
I know people like to point to California here, but there are some key differences. The first is that California has many many more Asian American residents than most of the rest of the country, so the numbers will look different for in-state schools no matter what. The second is that the California figures look at the entire state, across all UC and Cal State systems. For a variety of reasons, including systemic racism, there may not be enough "highly qualified" URMs for admissions to match demographics for Black and Latino applicants. But this conversation is about "elite colleges," which we can assume means T25, and some of which are very small at the undergraduate level. If a college decides racial diversity, and avoiding a substantial drop in Black and Latino candidates, is important to them, there are absolutely enough "highly qualified" URMs to make sure that happens. |
Then URMs have absolutely nothing to be concerned about. Why did we even need AA to begin with? It's a good day for everyone, it sounds like - URMs, ORMs, whites and anyone in-between. |
Klan-tastic! |
Actually I think in the last year or two CA schools have definitely made changes that increase URM populations. They’ve eliminated standardized testing, and in the last admissions cycle clearly gave boosts to some heavily URM HSs. This mostly benefited Hispanics from what I remember. |
Even Abraham Lincoln, after freeing slaves, felt blacks were repaid enough. This was more than 150 yrs ago. Since then, there has been more and more social programs to assist people in poverty. The only thing that these programs have done was to decimate black families with a high percentage of the black males in the prison. If it hasn't worked for a century and a half, another 150 yrs will not help. We need to make painful decisions to put everyone's butt in gear. We need to change tactics. |
Over 600,000 Americans killed both sides trying to free slaves. That's more deaths than all other wars up to Korean War combined. I can see why he felt that way. |
I promise you, my fallen confederate ancestors were not “killed trying to free slaves.” |
Don't worry - just call it out and apply to a service academy. It is fine for the military to consider race - because they need leaders that reflect the enlisted. |
it's okay. their death still counts in total. |