Will Admissions Officers pick up on clues in application regarding URM?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:For those who think colleges already have a workaround in place, I did not see many URMs at my kid's ivy. Just walk around. This is admittedly a sample size of 1 ivy. However, I've not been able to verify published URM demographics.



Well, you will see significantly fewer URM kids in the future. Free gravy train is over.


You can feel how you want about AA but this kind of language “free gravy train” is really gross, after everything this nation has done to black people. You are not a good person.


Well, I am sorry if you feel that way but that's exactly how I feel. Asians have done nothing to blacks, owe nothing to blacks and I resent the fact that AA negatively affected Asian kids the most. It's like paying for lunch that you weren't even part of having. And paying it year after year. LOL



And how exactly are Asians paying for lunch?


By their seats taken under AA. Which is exactly what Supreme Court killed it last week.


THEIR seats? So entitled. You didn’t PAY for anyone’s lunch. Such delusion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Students are allowed to say whatever they want to say in an essay. As far as I know, schools are fully entitled to ask applicants to voluntarily identify their race. Schools will easily—and appropriately—be able to give URMs a boost, if necessary. The decision provides a road map for colleges to follow. As a practical matter, little will change.


You have not been following what has transpired in states that implemented this policy. Bottom line is Black admits will sharply decline and Asian admits will increase.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those who think colleges already have a workaround in place, I did not see many URMs at my kid's ivy. Just walk around. This is admittedly a sample size of 1 ivy. However, I've not been able to verify published URM demographics.



Well, you will see significantly fewer URM kids in the future. Free gravy train is over.


You can feel how you want about AA but this kind of language “free gravy train” is really gross, after everything this nation has done to black people. You are not a good person.


Agree.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those who think colleges already have a workaround in place, I did not see many URMs at my kid's ivy. Just walk around. This is admittedly a sample size of 1 ivy. However, I've not been able to verify published URM demographics.



Well, you will see significantly fewer URM kids in the future. Free gravy train is over.


You can feel how you want about AA but this kind of language “free gravy train” is really gross, after everything this nation has done to black people. You are not a good person.


Well, I am sorry if you feel that way but that's exactly how I feel. Asians have done nothing to blacks, owe nothing to blacks and I resent the fact that AA negatively affected Asian kids the most. It's like paying for lunch that you weren't even part of having. And paying it year after year. LOL



And how exactly are Asians paying for lunch?


By their seats taken under AA. Which is exactly what Supreme Court killed it last week.


THEIR seats? So entitled. You didn’t PAY for anyone’s lunch. Such delusion.


Time will tell whether it’s true or I am being delusional. If you truly believe URMs have what it takes with or without AA, you really have nothing to worry about. Either way, it was a super good decision for Asian families.
Anonymous
Such a sad, hate-filled and ignorant thread.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Such a sad, hate-filled and ignorant thread.


Both sides are equally resentful. One by history the other by a bad law.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Students are allowed to say whatever they want to say in an essay. As far as I know, schools are fully entitled to ask applicants to voluntarily identify their race. Schools will easily—and appropriately—be able to give URMs a boost, if necessary. The decision provides a road map for colleges to follow. As a practical matter, little will change.


You have not been following what has transpired in states that implemented this policy. Bottom line is Black admits will sharply decline and Asian admits will increase.


I know people like to point to California here, but there are some key differences. The first is that California has many many more Asian American residents than most of the rest of the country, so the numbers will look different for in-state schools no matter what. The second is that the California figures look at the entire state, across all UC and Cal State systems. For a variety of reasons, including systemic racism, there may not be enough "highly qualified" URMs for admissions to match demographics for Black and Latino applicants.

But this conversation is about "elite colleges," which we can assume means T25, and some of which are very small at the undergraduate level. If a college decides racial diversity, and avoiding a substantial drop in Black and Latino candidates, is important to them, there are absolutely enough "highly qualified" URMs to make sure that happens.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Students are allowed to say whatever they want to say in an essay. As far as I know, schools are fully entitled to ask applicants to voluntarily identify their race. Schools will easily—and appropriately—be able to give URMs a boost, if necessary. The decision provides a road map for colleges to follow. As a practical matter, little will change.


You have not been following what has transpired in states that implemented this policy. Bottom line is Black admits will sharply decline and Asian admits will increase.


I know people like to point to California here, but there are some key differences. The first is that California has many many more Asian American residents than most of the rest of the country, so the numbers will look different for in-state schools no matter what. The second is that the California figures look at the entire state, across all UC and Cal State systems. For a variety of reasons, including systemic racism, there may not be enough "highly qualified" URMs for admissions to match demographics for Black and Latino applicants.

But this conversation is about "elite colleges," which we can assume means T25, and some of which are very small at the undergraduate level. If a college decides racial diversity, and avoiding a substantial drop in Black and Latino candidates, is important to them, there are absolutely enough "highly qualified" URMs to make sure that happens.


Then URMs have absolutely nothing to be concerned about. Why did we even need AA to begin with? It's a good day for everyone, it sounds like - URMs, ORMs, whites and anyone in-between.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those who think colleges already have a workaround in place, I did not see many URMs at my kid's ivy. Just walk around. This is admittedly a sample size of 1 ivy. However, I've not been able to verify published URM demographics.



Well, you will see significantly fewer URM kids in the future. Free gravy train is over.


You can feel how you want about AA but this kind of language “free gravy train” is really gross, after everything this nation has done to black people. You are not a good person.


Well, I am sorry if you feel that way but that's exactly how I feel. Asians have done nothing to blacks, owe nothing to blacks and I resent the fact that AA negatively affected Asian kids the most. It's like paying for lunch that you weren't even part of having. And paying it year after year. LOL


Klan-tastic!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Students are allowed to say whatever they want to say in an essay. As far as I know, schools are fully entitled to ask applicants to voluntarily identify their race. Schools will easily—and appropriately—be able to give URMs a boost, if necessary. The decision provides a road map for colleges to follow. As a practical matter, little will change.


No, schools cannot do that per court decision. I don't know why you believe little will change. Read CA school system's failed effort.


Actually I think in the last year or two CA schools have definitely made changes that increase URM populations. They’ve eliminated standardized testing, and in the last admissions cycle clearly gave boosts to some heavily URM HSs. This mostly benefited Hispanics from what I remember.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those who think colleges already have a workaround in place, I did not see many URMs at my kid's ivy. Just walk around. This is admittedly a sample size of 1 ivy. However, I've not been able to verify published URM demographics.



Well, you will see significantly fewer URM kids in the future. Free gravy train is over.


You can feel how you want about AA but this kind of language “free gravy train” is really gross, after everything this nation has done to black people. You are not a good person.


Well, I am sorry if you feel that way but that's exactly how I feel. Asians have done nothing to blacks, owe nothing to blacks and I resent the fact that AA negatively affected Asian kids the most. It's like paying for lunch that you weren't even part of having. And paying it year after year. LOL


Klan-tastic!


Even Abraham Lincoln, after freeing slaves, felt blacks were repaid enough. This was more than 150 yrs ago. Since then, there has been more and more social programs to assist people in poverty. The only thing that these programs have done was to decimate black families with a high percentage of the black males in the prison. If it hasn't worked for a century and a half, another 150 yrs will not help. We need to make painful decisions to put everyone's butt in gear. We need to change tactics.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those who think colleges already have a workaround in place, I did not see many URMs at my kid's ivy. Just walk around. This is admittedly a sample size of 1 ivy. However, I've not been able to verify published URM demographics.



Well, you will see significantly fewer URM kids in the future. Free gravy train is over.


You can feel how you want about AA but this kind of language “free gravy train” is really gross, after everything this nation has done to black people. You are not a good person.


Well, I am sorry if you feel that way but that's exactly how I feel. Asians have done nothing to blacks, owe nothing to blacks and I resent the fact that AA negatively affected Asian kids the most. It's like paying for lunch that you weren't even part of having. And paying it year after year. LOL


Klan-tastic!


Even Abraham Lincoln, after freeing slaves, felt blacks were repaid enough. This was more than 150 yrs ago. Since then, there has been more and more social programs to assist people in poverty. The only thing that these programs have done was to decimate black families with a high percentage of the black males in the prison. If it hasn't worked for a century and a half, another 150 yrs will not help. We need to make painful decisions to put everyone's butt in gear. We need to change tactics.


Over 600,000 Americans killed both sides trying to free slaves. That's more deaths than all other wars up to Korean War combined. I can see why he felt that way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those who think colleges already have a workaround in place, I did not see many URMs at my kid's ivy. Just walk around. This is admittedly a sample size of 1 ivy. However, I've not been able to verify published URM demographics.



Well, you will see significantly fewer URM kids in the future. Free gravy train is over.


You can feel how you want about AA but this kind of language “free gravy train” is really gross, after everything this nation has done to black people. You are not a good person.


Well, I am sorry if you feel that way but that's exactly how I feel. Asians have done nothing to blacks, owe nothing to blacks and I resent the fact that AA negatively affected Asian kids the most. It's like paying for lunch that you weren't even part of having. And paying it year after year. LOL


Klan-tastic!


Even Abraham Lincoln, after freeing slaves, felt blacks were repaid enough. This was more than 150 yrs ago. Since then, there has been more and more social programs to assist people in poverty. The only thing that these programs have done was to decimate black families with a high percentage of the black males in the prison. If it hasn't worked for a century and a half, another 150 yrs will not help. We need to make painful decisions to put everyone's butt in gear. We need to change tactics.


Over 600,000 Americans killed both sides trying to free slaves. That's more deaths than all other wars up to Korean War combined. I can see why he felt that way.


I promise you, my fallen confederate ancestors were not “killed trying to free slaves.”
Anonymous
Don't worry - just call it out and apply to a service academy. It is fine for the military to consider race - because they need leaders that reflect the enlisted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those who think colleges already have a workaround in place, I did not see many URMs at my kid's ivy. Just walk around. This is admittedly a sample size of 1 ivy. However, I've not been able to verify published URM demographics.



Well, you will see significantly fewer URM kids in the future. Free gravy train is over.


You can feel how you want about AA but this kind of language “free gravy train” is really gross, after everything this nation has done to black people. You are not a good person.


Well, I am sorry if you feel that way but that's exactly how I feel. Asians have done nothing to blacks, owe nothing to blacks and I resent the fact that AA negatively affected Asian kids the most. It's like paying for lunch that you weren't even part of having. And paying it year after year. LOL


Klan-tastic!


Even Abraham Lincoln, after freeing slaves, felt blacks were repaid enough. This was more than 150 yrs ago. Since then, there has been more and more social programs to assist people in poverty. The only thing that these programs have done was to decimate black families with a high percentage of the black males in the prison. If it hasn't worked for a century and a half, another 150 yrs will not help. We need to make painful decisions to put everyone's butt in gear. We need to change tactics.


Over 600,000 Americans killed both sides trying to free slaves. That's more deaths than all other wars up to Korean War combined. I can see why he felt that way.


I promise you, my fallen confederate ancestors were not “killed trying to free slaves.”


it's okay. their death still counts in total.
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