Has Au/tenley town gotten seedier? Lots of homeless and random people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC in general has turned into a dump. The willfully blind are so because they do not want to admit that Democratic policies and politicians made this mess.

I agree. Even if DC can’t do anything about increasing numbers of homeless/drug addicts/mentally ill, they can enforce basic rules about public order. Eg, not allow loitering and camping within a certain radius of libraries, schools, parks and metro stops.

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Anonymous wrote:It's the combination of

increased census at Psychiatric Institute of Washington. Mentally ill + indigent patients attract family members who, sometimesNOTalways, are also low-functioning

an increase in the fentanyl-methy mush brained paranoid guys that NPS allows to live in the little triangle pocket parks, screaming and writing furiously about End Times. NPS also looks the other way when these guys set up tents in the bushes adjacent to Deal/JR

sorta Friendship Place (but not really, because their constituency tends to arrive purposefully for meals then leave / they don't loiter)

THREE count 'em THREE "vape" shops on Wisconsin that definitely, for sure only sell paraphernalia. The young males lurking in the overgrown weedy trees 1 block away on Belt Rd. are most definitely not getting high. Nor are they waiting for a connect.

Hundreds of newish neighbors brought to the Wisconsin and Connecticut corridors with Sec. 8 vouchers. They are visited by their friends sometimes.

And before the inevitable race card gets played, two of the cohorts I've described are predominantly white. Another one is super diverse _looking_, and one is majority black.

-- long-time resident who just loves the new Vibrancy.

Did you vote for it and not expect it to come to your neighborhood?

What is the "it" we're supposed to have voted for and expected not to come to our neighborhood, exactly? Crime is up nationwide. None of what OP described in this thread is actually crime, anyway. What were we supposed to have voted for that would have prevented ... whatever you think is bad in Tenleytown now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's the combination of

increased census at Psychiatric Institute of Washington. Mentally ill + indigent patients attract family members who, sometimesNOTalways, are also low-functioning

an increase in the fentanyl-methy mush brained paranoid guys that NPS allows to live in the little triangle pocket parks, screaming and writing furiously about End Times. NPS also looks the other way when these guys set up tents in the bushes adjacent to Deal/JR

sorta Friendship Place (but not really, because their constituency tends to arrive purposefully for meals then leave / they don't loiter)

THREE count 'em THREE "vape" shops on Wisconsin that definitely, for sure only sell paraphernalia. The young males lurking in the overgrown weedy trees 1 block away on Belt Rd. are most definitely not getting high. Nor are they waiting for a connect.

Hundreds of newish neighbors brought to the Wisconsin and Connecticut corridors with Sec. 8 vouchers. They are visited by their friends sometimes.

And before the inevitable race card gets played, two of the cohorts I've described are predominantly white. Another one is super diverse _looking_, and one is majority black.

-- long-time resident who just loves the new Vibrancy.

Lol... "what I am saying isn't racist because I say so" is such a great excuse!

Try harder. I'm unapologetically classist. I wish these groups of people would go somewhere else and that my neighborhood would revert to the way it was about 6 years ago. I DGAF how much melanin these guys have, or don't have -- I dislike their behaviors.

+100

Also noticed that the booeymonger all the way up by the old mazza is now a convenience and liquor store…with armed guards. It’s just gonna keep sprawling.

Really? That makes me sad. Spend so many post high school afternoons there.

It's just the old porch area that has turned into a convenience/liquor store. The Booeymonger is still there. Source: I went there last night for a "The Manhattan".

Same thing. A store with booze and vapes and whatever else is still a store with booze and vapes and whatever else, and will attract the same kind of people, especially because the people who actually live nearby have rodman’s and a number of other places to go for alcohol. Its not like the people from Harrison street are going there.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't been before COVID. But today we walked around and noticed a lot of randos loitering and hanging out at the chick fila and Panera, both inside and out. Also lots of homeless people loitering around. Felt seedier than before. Have things gone down hill? Is this the new norm?

So when you were walking around, were you not also a rando loitering and hanging out? How were the rest of us to know the difference between you (proper, not loitering) and the randos (seedy, loitering)?

Oh. Just cut the crap. You know the difference between a homeless loiterer and someone else, right? Stop being an obtusive a**.

By the way they are dressed, hygiene and the way they are acting and they aren't eating food just hanging out. They don't look like college students, seedy is a good word.

What do college students look like?

I would also like to know what college students look like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's the combination of

increased census at Psychiatric Institute of Washington. Mentally ill + indigent patients attract family members who, sometimesNOTalways, are also low-functioning

an increase in the fentanyl-methy mush brained paranoid guys that NPS allows to live in the little triangle pocket parks, screaming and writing furiously about End Times. NPS also looks the other way when these guys set up tents in the bushes adjacent to Deal/JR

sorta Friendship Place (but not really, because their constituency tends to arrive purposefully for meals then leave / they don't loiter)

THREE count 'em THREE "vape" shops on Wisconsin that definitely, for sure only sell paraphernalia. The young males lurking in the overgrown weedy trees 1 block away on Belt Rd. are most definitely not getting high. Nor are they waiting for a connect.

Hundreds of newish neighbors brought to the Wisconsin and Connecticut corridors with Sec. 8 vouchers. They are visited by their friends sometimes.

And before the inevitable race card gets played, two of the cohorts I've described are predominantly white. Another one is super diverse _looking_, and one is majority black.

-- long-time resident who just loves the new Vibrancy.

Lol... "what I am saying isn't racist because I say so" is such a great excuse!

Try harder. I'm unapologetically classist. I wish these groups of people would go somewhere else and that my neighborhood would revert to the way it was about 6 years ago. I DGAF how much melanin these guys have, or don't have -- I dislike their behaviors.

+1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CM Frumin has a plan to make Ward 3 more “welcoming” to these folks, so it’s only going to get worse. Enjoy.

Him getting elected was a bit of a headscratcher. The Ward 3 highschool has 1/3 out of boundary students, which overcrowds it to the extent that parents of in-boundary students who want to send their kids their are instead opting to pay for expensive private schools. But Frumin says his main focus is - making sure Ward 3 is doing more for people living in other wards? I see Councilmembers from other wards sticking up and trying to get more for their wards, while the Ward 3 Councilmember is trying his best to take more from it.

Not to mention his habit of completely blowing off constituents who write to him.

I mean, I know D.C. elections across the city are almost entirely decided by personality rather than policy, but I thought there’d still be some limits. Not sure why Ward 3 voters weren’t interested in having an advocate for the ward.

Just wait for the school boundary rezone. Ward 3 gonna get served.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh no! Not random people loitering and hanging out!

Well then you won’t complain when they set up camp right outside your doorstep.

[Anonymous]

"...that NPS allows to live in the little triangle pocket parks..."

NPS turned the triangle parks over to D.C. years ago. D.C. then outsourced dealing with the homeless in this area to Friendship House.

The convenience store at Booeymongers is an immigrant trying to start his own business. He sells the same type of wine found at Rodman's and not much else so far. He is open past 9 pm when all the other places close. That may also be the only place between Friendship Heights and Rodman's that sells wine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's the combination of

increased census at Psychiatric Institute of Washington. Mentally ill + indigent patients attract family members who, sometimesNOTalways, are also low-functioning

an increase in the fentanyl-methy mush brained paranoid guys that NPS allows to live in the little triangle pocket parks, screaming and writing furiously about End Times. NPS also looks the other way when these guys set up tents in the bushes adjacent to Deal/JR

sorta Friendship Place (but not really, because their constituency tends to arrive purposefully for meals then leave / they don't loiter)

THREE count 'em THREE "vape" shops on Wisconsin that definitely, for sure only sell paraphernalia. The young males lurking in the overgrown weedy trees 1 block away on Belt Rd. are most definitely not getting high. Nor are they waiting for a connect.

Hundreds of newish neighbors brought to the Wisconsin and Connecticut corridors with Sec. 8 vouchers. They are visited by their friends sometimes.

And before the inevitable race card gets played, two of the cohorts I've described are predominantly white. Another one is super diverse _looking_, and one is majority black.

-- long-time resident who just loves the new Vibrancy.

Lol... "what I am saying isn't racist because I say so" is such a great excuse!

Try harder. I'm unapologetically classist. I wish these groups of people would go somewhere else and that my neighborhood would revert to the way it was about 6 years ago. I DGAF how much melanin these guys have, or don't have -- I dislike their behaviors.

+100

Also noticed that the booeymonger all the way up by the old mazza is now a convenience and liquor store…with armed guards. It’s just gonna keep sprawling.

Really? That makes me sad. Spend so many post high school afternoons there.

It's just the old porch area that has turned into a convenience/liquor store. The Booeymonger is still there. Source: I went there last night for a "The Manhattan".

Same thing. A store with booze and vapes and whatever else is still a store with booze and vapes and whatever else, and will attract the same kind of people, especially because the people who actually live nearby have rodman’s and a number of other places to go for alcohol. Its not like the people from Harrison street are going there.

It's not the same thing. Prior poster said the Booeymonger was closed and became a liquor store. That just isn't true. It's still there. And now there is also a liquor store.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"...that NPS allows to live in the little triangle pocket parks..."

NPS turned the triangle parks over to D.C. years ago. D.C. then outsourced dealing with the homeless in this area to Friendship House.

The convenience store at Booeymongers is an immigrant trying to start his own business. He sells the same type of wine found at Rodman's and not much else so far. He is open past 9 pm when all the other places close. That may also be the only place between Friendship Heights and Rodman's that sells wine.

NPS didn't give the District all the federal triangle pocket parks -- what are you talking about? Are you one of the locals who predictably recommends that NPS "turn over" all kinds of green space around Deal/Murch/Janney/JR to DC, so the kiddies can have more portables and playground crap, and swimming pools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC in general has turned into a dump. The willfully blind are so because they do not want to admit that Democratic policies and politicians made this mess.

A dump? Please. This city is pretty damn clean compared to most in the US. Do you get out much?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC in general has turned into a dump. The willfully blind are so because they do not want to admit that Democratic policies and politicians made this mess.

A dump? Please. This city is pretty damn clean compared to most in the US. Do you get out much?

I'm not the PP, but DC is terrible these days. I was born here and have lived here consistently for 20+ years. Tony Williams revived downtown (and got slammed for it as he had to make some concessions to developers). However, he was bringing business back into the city and the results speak for themselves to this day if you remember places like Gallery Place pre and post TW. It got cleaner, better, safer with so many more options for entertainment and commerce. Now the development collusion under the current Mayor and GGW ilk is on high profit housing - business is an afterthought. High rents plus tons of incentives for landlords to let storefront properties sit vacant for long periods have greatly affected our beautiful corridors, bringing in both stagnation and big box/fast food. Friendship Heights "makeover" has pretty much driven out the businesses, they destroyed the marble facade on Mazza rather than repurposing it (not great environmentally), empty stores, institutions just poof gone, but yay more condos coming! The urban loft architecture of City Ridge--just what we needed, more super boring "urban lofts" (hello, the 90s are calling). The city's policies around section 8 have been a disaster--we've all seen the mini haz zone on Connecticut Ave they've created by illegally offering landlords more than typical rent to flip rent controlled apartments to Sec-8 without any oversight or services. And the defund the police/restorative justice folks have created a greenhouse for nuisance crime, which plagues the whole city TBH. Some of us remember when metro was a source of pride and Fawn Hall was cited for eating a banana while awaiting her train. Can you imagine that today? Don't get me started on the vermin everywhere (how many rat catchers does DC have? 1, 2, 3? the number is shockingly low) and mentally ill/addicted face planted on the sidewalk. I think I am the only person who calls in wellness checks because I have compassion--the rest of you step over the bodies as far as I can tell because you don't want to "bother" them? And car crime. But it's just an insurance matter. Whatever. Anyway, yes, DC's trajectory is appalling and those of us who enjoyed its rise are mourning its fall. To the person crowing about Ward 3 "getting served", you come across as emotionally and intellectually immature. And it's not Ward 3, it's city-wide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's the combination of

increased census at Psychiatric Institute of Washington. Mentally ill + indigent patients attract family members who, sometimesNOTalways, are also low-functioning

an increase in the fentanyl-methy mush brained paranoid guys that NPS allows to live in the little triangle pocket parks, screaming and writing furiously about End Times. NPS also looks the other way when these guys set up tents in the bushes adjacent to Deal/JR

sorta Friendship Place (but not really, because their constituency tends to arrive purposefully for meals then leave / they don't loiter)

THREE count 'em THREE "vape" shops on Wisconsin that definitely, for sure only sell paraphernalia. The young males lurking in the overgrown weedy trees 1 block away on Belt Rd. are most definitely not getting high. Nor are they waiting for a connect.

Hundreds of newish neighbors brought to the Wisconsin and Connecticut corridors with Sec. 8 vouchers. They are visited by their friends sometimes.

And before the inevitable race card gets played, two of the cohorts I've described are predominantly white. Another one is super diverse _looking_, and one is majority black.

-- long-time resident who just loves the new Vibrancy.

Did you vote for it and not expect it to come to your neighborhood?

+1
Your choices on election day have brought this home for you.

No, this is not because of democratic policy. The data clearly show parallel increases in crime in rural districts and red states with red legislatures and red prosecutors. Meanwhile in Dallas texas the Democratic mayor is seeing improving crime rates even with liberal policies. Your partisan finger pointing will only lead to more crime.

In the most recent Ward 3 election one candidate specifically called for a moratorium on new housing vouchers and increased police presence in Ward 3. The other candidate opposed those positions. Guess who we got? Yes, we all voted for this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"...that NPS allows to live in the little triangle pocket parks..."

NPS turned the triangle parks over to D.C. years ago. D.C. then outsourced dealing with the homeless in this area to Friendship House.

The convenience store at Booeymongers is an immigrant trying to start his own business. He sells the same type of wine found at Rodman's and not much else so far. He is open past 9 pm when all the other places close. That may also be the only place between Friendship Heights and Rodman's that sells wine.

NPS didn't give the District all the federal triangle pocket parks -- what are you talking about? Are you one of the locals who predictably recommends that NPS "turn over" all kinds of green space around Deal/Murch/Janney/JR to DC, so the kiddies can have more portables and playground crap, and swimming pools?

Oh no, schools, playgrounds and pools. What a dystopia!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"...that NPS allows to live in the little triangle pocket parks..."

NPS turned the triangle parks over to D.C. years ago. D.C. then outsourced dealing with the homeless in this area to Friendship House.

The convenience store at Booeymongers is an immigrant trying to start his own business. He sells the same type of wine found at Rodman's and not much else so far. He is open past 9 pm when all the other places close. That may also be the only place between Friendship Heights and Rodman's that sells wine.

NPS didn't give the District all the federal triangle pocket parks -- what are you talking about? Are you one of the locals who predictably recommends that NPS "turn over" all kinds of green space around Deal/Murch/Janney/JR to DC, so the kiddies can have more portables and playground crap, and swimming pools?

Oh no, schools, playgrounds and pools. What a dystopia!

Federal park land preserved in permanent conservation for all of society shouldn’t be repurposed for short-term needs that arise from poor city planning

Don’t rob future generations of green space so Walker and Astor can have smaller teacher:pupil ratios for the whopping 6 yrs they’re in DCPS. Or more convenient swim lessons because your nanny doesn’t drive