Has Au/tenley town gotten seedier? Lots of homeless and random people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The basic problem is that DC decided to tolerate more deviancy, disorder and yes, crime in the name of equity, diversity, and being “welcoming to all” - including those who commit crime and can’t control their public behavior. And the bar keeps being lowered.

This decision was made by DC liberals "on behalf" of criminals. What a pairing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The basic problem is that DC decided to tolerate more deviancy, disorder and yes, crime in the name of equity, diversity, and being “welcoming to all” - including those who commit crime and can’t control their public behavior. And the bar keeps being lowered.

This decision was made by DC liberals "on behalf" of criminals. What a pairing.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sad thing is that Tenley will fall even further. As bad as it is - it will get worse. The Wilson students and the aggressive homeless everywhere will further decrease foot traffic, which in turn will eliminate any business from wanting to invest in operations there. The Target smells like urine and the library is strewn with garbage and randoms hanging out - eyeballing everyone who enters.
But as a plus - DC has very important street graffiti which gave Bowser her 10 seconds of national fame. She is responsible for the city’s decline.

What are you talking about? I'm in both Target & the library with my kids a couple if times a week and neither of your allegations are at all true.

There are some Jackson-Reed students who get a little too rowdy in the afternoons but I've never had any issues with aggressive homeless folks either.

Betting you are an insecure private school parent who drives thru the neighborhood going to & from your kids school who never sets foot on the street.

You underscore another issue - very low expectations of public spaces and public schools. Very low.

[Anonymous]

If feel like the crime and questionable people have spread out further from the dangerous parts of DC where they used to stick to, to not only the nicer parts of DC but also Arlington as well.

The Arlington part is (admitadelly) more anectodal, but there are a bunch of questionable people by the Safeway in Cherrydale now just sitting on the bus stop, blasting music, and etc. I don't recall this being a thing pre-pandemic but now they are just there, loitering, being noisy and etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If feel like the crime and questionable people have spread out further from the dangerous parts of DC where they used to stick to, to not only the nicer parts of DC but also Arlington as well.

The Arlington part is (admitadelly) more anectodal, but there are a bunch of questionable people by the Safeway in Cherrydale now just sitting on the bus stop, blasting music, and etc. I don't recall this being a thing pre-pandemic but now they are just there, loitering, being noisy and etc.

This Missing Middle is on the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If feel like the crime and questionable people have spread out further from the dangerous parts of DC where they used to stick to, to not only the nicer parts of DC but also Arlington as well.

The Arlington part is (admitadelly) more anectodal, but there are a bunch of questionable people by the Safeway in Cherrydale now just sitting on the bus stop, blasting music, and etc. I don't recall this being a thing pre-pandemic but now they are just there, loitering, being noisy and etc.

This Missing Middle is on the way.

Fingers crossed that the lawsuit against the county on missing middle is successful in Arlington.

I am sorry but one is not entitled to live in a specific area of town, if one can't afford Arlington, there are plenty of places near by (by US standards) that are affordable, such as Groveton, Rockville, Anacostia, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sad thing is that Tenley will fall even further. As bad as it is - it will get worse. The Wilson students and the aggressive homeless everywhere will further decrease foot traffic, which in turn will eliminate any business from wanting to invest in operations there. The Target smells like urine and the library is strewn with garbage and randoms hanging out - eyeballing everyone who enters.
But as a plus - DC has very important street graffiti which gave Bowser her 10 seconds of national fame. She is responsible for the city’s decline.

What are you talking about? I'm in both Target & the library with my kids a couple if times a week and neither of your allegations are at all true.

There are some Jackson-Reed students who get a little too rowdy in the afternoons but I've never had any issues with aggressive homeless folks either.

Betting you are an insecure private school parent who drives thru the neighborhood going to & from your kids school who never sets foot on the street.

You underscore another issue - very low expectations of public spaces and public schools. Very low.

DC residents have become used to defining deviancy down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sad thing is that Tenley will fall even further. As bad as it is - it will get worse. The Wilson students and the aggressive homeless everywhere will further decrease foot traffic, which in turn will eliminate any business from wanting to invest in operations there. The Target smells like urine and the library is strewn with garbage and randoms hanging out - eyeballing everyone who enters.
But as a plus - DC has very important street graffiti which gave Bowser her 10 seconds of national fame. She is responsible for the city’s decline.

What are you talking about? I'm in both Target & the library with my kids a couple if times a week and neither of your allegations are at all true.

There are some Jackson-Reed students who get a little too rowdy in the afternoons but I've never had any issues with aggressive homeless folks either.

Betting you are an insecure private school parent who drives thru the neighborhood going to & from your kids school who never sets foot on the street.

You underscore another issue - very low expectations of public spaces and public schools. Very low.

DC residents have become used to defining deviancy down.

It was really scary to me when fellow DC residents were normalizing/defending the riots and looting. I knew a ton of people who "explained/justified". Protests yes, but defending vandalism? Everything took a turn then . If you can justify smashing plate glass windows, harassing diners, flash mobs stealing or stopping traffic and banging on car windows, you were basically laying a welcome mat out. And then all the subsequent policy changes confirmed that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sad thing is that Tenley will fall even further. As bad as it is - it will get worse. The Wilson students and the aggressive homeless everywhere will further decrease foot traffic, which in turn will eliminate any business from wanting to invest in operations there. The Target smells like urine and the library is strewn with garbage and randoms hanging out - eyeballing everyone who enters.
But as a plus - DC has very important street graffiti which gave Bowser her 10 seconds of national fame. She is responsible for the city’s decline.

What are you talking about? I'm in both Target & the library with my kids a couple if times a week and neither of your allegations are at all true.

There are some Jackson-Reed students who get a little too rowdy in the afternoons but I've never had any issues with aggressive homeless folks either.

Betting you are an insecure private school parent who drives thru the neighborhood going to & from your kids school who never sets foot on the street.

You underscore another issue - very low expectations of public spaces and public schools. Very low.

DC residents have become used to defining deviancy down.

It was really scary to me when fellow DC residents were normalizing/defending the riots and looting. I knew a ton of people who "explained/justified". Protests yes, but defending vandalism? Everything took a turn then . If you can justify smashing plate glass windows, harassing diners, flash mobs stealing or stopping traffic and banging on car windows, you were basically laying a welcome mat out. And then all the subsequent policy changes confirmed that.

This. Doesn’t make much sense that people here are surprised. The DC government made it very clear in 2020 that it supports vandalism, criminal activity, etc. We sold our house a few months later.

Renaming schools > getting kids back in school is also an indicator that education isn’t valued.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If feel like the crime and questionable people have spread out further from the dangerous parts of DC where they used to stick to, to not only the nicer parts of DC but also Arlington as well.

The Arlington part is (admitadelly) more anectodal, but there are a bunch of questionable people by the Safeway in Cherrydale now just sitting on the bus stop, blasting music, and etc. I don't recall this being a thing pre-pandemic but now they are just there, loitering, being noisy and etc.

Arlington Safeways, CVS etc do have lock ups on products depending on location. 15 years ago shelves were stocked at the old Giant and CVS on Wisconsin plus Tenleytown. Just like stuff is on shelves in Mclean - we've been to them with some people are shocked at the difference from their closest stores.

Nothing anecdotal on same retailer stocking patterns from location to location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If feel like the crime and questionable people have spread out further from the dangerous parts of DC where they used to stick to, to not only the nicer parts of DC but also Arlington as well.

The Arlington part is (admitadelly) more anectodal, but there are a bunch of questionable people by the Safeway in Cherrydale now just sitting on the bus stop, blasting music, and etc. I don't recall this being a thing pre-pandemic but now they are just there, loitering, being noisy and etc.

I’ve lived here for 25 years, there is that Medicaid rehab across the street that attracts some poor people and there was a homeless guy who slept in that bus stop for years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If feel like the crime and questionable people have spread out further from the dangerous parts of DC where they used to stick to, to not only the nicer parts of DC but also Arlington as well.

The Arlington part is (admitadelly) more anectodal, but there are a bunch of questionable people by the Safeway in Cherrydale now just sitting on the bus stop, blasting music, and etc. I don't recall this being a thing pre-pandemic but now they are just there, loitering, being noisy and etc.

This Missing Middle is on the way.

Fingers crossed that the lawsuit against the county on missing middle is successful in Arlington.

I am sorry but one is not entitled to live in a specific area of town, if one can't afford Arlington, there are plenty of places near by (by US standards) that are affordable, such as Groveton, Rockville, Anacostia, etc.

There’s no way residents are going to win. County has wanted this for years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sad thing is that Tenley will fall even further. As bad as it is - it will get worse. The Wilson students and the aggressive homeless everywhere will further decrease foot traffic, which in turn will eliminate any business from wanting to invest in operations there. The Target smells like urine and the library is strewn with garbage and randoms hanging out - eyeballing everyone who enters.
But as a plus - DC has very important street graffiti which gave Bowser her 10 seconds of national fame. She is responsible for the city’s decline.

What are you talking about? I'm in both Target & the library with my kids a couple if times a week and neither of your allegations are at all true.

There are some Jackson-Reed students who get a little too rowdy in the afternoons but I've never had any issues with aggressive homeless folks either.

Betting you are an insecure private school parent who drives thru the neighborhood going to & from your kids school who never sets foot on the street.

You underscore another issue - very low expectations of public spaces and public schools. Very low.

DC residents have become used to defining deviancy down.

It was really scary to me when fellow DC residents were normalizing/defending the riots and looting. I knew a ton of people who "explained/justified". Protests yes, but defending vandalism? Everything took a turn then . If you can justify smashing plate glass windows, harassing diners, flash mobs stealing or stopping traffic and banging on car windows, you were basically laying a welcome mat out. And then all the subsequent policy changes confirmed that.

This again.

There were no riots.

There were so few incidents of vandalism that you barely need more than one hand to count them and none of them even had a nexus to any of the BLM protests that were going on and were just opportunistic thugs taking advantage of the police focusing their attention elsewhere.

In case you are wondering I went downtown regularly during the demonstrations and two of the store robberies happened within 2 blocks of where I live and I was even home that night and my family is completely fine as is everyone else!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sad thing is that Tenley will fall even further. As bad as it is - it will get worse. The Wilson students and the aggressive homeless everywhere will further decrease foot traffic, which in turn will eliminate any business from wanting to invest in operations there. The Target smells like urine and the library is strewn with garbage and randoms hanging out - eyeballing everyone who enters.
But as a plus - DC has very important street graffiti which gave Bowser her 10 seconds of national fame. She is responsible for the city’s decline.

What are you talking about? I'm in both Target & the library with my kids a couple if times a week and neither of your allegations are at all true.

There are some Jackson-Reed students who get a little too rowdy in the afternoons but I've never had any issues with aggressive homeless folks either.

Betting you are an insecure private school parent who drives thru the neighborhood going to & from your kids school who never sets foot on the street.

You underscore another issue - very low expectations of public spaces and public schools. Very low.

DC residents have become used to defining deviancy down.

It was really scary to me when fellow DC residents were normalizing/defending the riots and looting. I knew a ton of people who "explained/justified". Protests yes, but defending vandalism? Everything took a turn then . If you can justify smashing plate glass windows, harassing diners, flash mobs stealing or stopping traffic and banging on car windows, you were basically laying a welcome mat out. And then all the subsequent policy changes confirmed that.

This again.

There were no riots.

There were so few incidents of vandalism that you barely need more than one hand to count them and none of them even had a nexus to any of the BLM protests that were going on and were just opportunistic thugs taking advantage of the police focusing their attention elsewhere.

In case you are wondering I went downtown regularly during the demonstrations and two of the store robberies happened within 2 blocks of where I live and I was even home that night and my family is completely fine as is everyone else!

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/3rd-day-george-floyd-protests-washington-dc/2318177/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sad thing is that Tenley will fall even further. As bad as it is - it will get worse. The Wilson students and the aggressive homeless everywhere will further decrease foot traffic, which in turn will eliminate any business from wanting to invest in operations there. The Target smells like urine and the library is strewn with garbage and randoms hanging out - eyeballing everyone who enters.
But as a plus - DC has very important street graffiti which gave Bowser her 10 seconds of national fame. She is responsible for the city’s decline.

What are you talking about? I'm in both Target & the library with my kids a couple if times a week and neither of your allegations are at all true.

There are some Jackson-Reed students who get a little too rowdy in the afternoons but I've never had any issues with aggressive homeless folks either.

Betting you are an insecure private school parent who drives thru the neighborhood going to & from your kids school who never sets foot on the street.

You underscore another issue - very low expectations of public spaces and public schools. Very low.

DC residents have become used to defining deviancy down.

It was really scary to me when fellow DC residents were normalizing/defending the riots and looting. I knew a ton of people who "explained/justified". Protests yes, but defending vandalism? Everything took a turn then . If you can justify smashing plate glass windows, harassing diners, flash mobs stealing or stopping traffic and banging on car windows, you were basically laying a welcome mat out. And then all the subsequent policy changes confirmed that.

This. Doesn’t make much sense that people here are surprised. The DC government made it very clear in 2020 that it supports vandalism, criminal activity, etc. We sold our house a few months later.

Renaming schools > getting kids back in school is also an indicator that education isn’t valued.

They really did. I could not believe the scenes downtown, in Tenleytown, in Georgetown, in Adams Morgan. I am all about a peaceful protest, but they should have shut down anything that wasn't permitted and peaceful. Except they couldn't, because they bought into the narrative that police action is fascist.