McLean HS 2023 Outcomes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that the SLAC list is pretty limited and not that impressive

The SLAC list is incomplete (for example, I'm personally aware of 2023 MHS graduates going to Amherst and Wellesley in addition to the schools listed by OP based on what was in the student newspaper). But I also think at big public high schools, even those that serve fairly affluent areas, there's been a tendency in recent years to favor larger schools over SLACs.

I think what you are actually seeing is a big preference by parents for big publics because of cost. Few can afford to pay $85k a year for a Slac

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that the SLAC list is pretty limited and not that impressive

The SLAC list is incomplete (for example, I'm personally aware of 2023 MHS graduates going to Amherst and Wellesley in addition to the schools listed by OP based on what was in the student newspaper). But I also think at big public high schools, even those that serve fairly affluent areas, there's been a tendency in recent years to favor larger schools over SLACs.

I think what you are actually seeing is a big preference by parents for big publics because of cost. Few can afford to pay $85k a year for a Slac

Are you referring to big in-state publics? Out of state costs aren’t significantly lower at 60-75k a year.

[Anonymous]

Four just for Yale is crazy high no?

Wow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that the SLAC list is pretty limited and not that impressive

The SLAC list is incomplete (for example, I'm personally aware of 2023 MHS graduates going to Amherst and Wellesley in addition to the schools listed by OP based on what was in the student newspaper). But I also think at big public high schools, even those that serve fairly affluent areas, there's been a tendency in recent years to favor larger schools over SLACs.

I think what you are actually seeing is a big preference by parents for big publics because of cost. Few can afford to pay $85k a year for a Slac

Are you referring to big in-state publics? Out of state costs aren’t significantly lower at 60-75k a year.

Outside of Michigan, the UCs, and UVA, the OOS costs are generally more in the $50-55K range for next year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where “quota” in college admissions means “usual maximum”, then I think PP is right that it would be unusual for a non-magnet public to get more than a few admits to any given Ivy. So McLean’s numbers look good enough in Ivy admit/matriculations and not worse than comparable public HSs in the DC metro…

For a high school in NoVa other than TJ, a dozen or more kids in any graduating class going to Ivies/MIT is on the high end.

Anecdotally, my impression is the numbers are higher at schools like Whitman and Churchill. Those schools are more likely to have legacies and fewer students turning down Ivies to attend the state flagship. There are always kids at Langley, McLean, Madison, etc. who end up turning down Ivies (not HYP, but some others) to attend UVA every year. Maybe that happens with UMCP as well, but it seems less likely.

I think many VA students do ED for UVA and don’t ever know where else they would have gotten in. My sample size is only one as my friend’s son just went through this. He had applied or was applying and pulled out when he got into UVA ED. He had a very high GPA and SAT score and was like have at least been considered by other T25 schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting that the SLAC list is pretty limited and not that impressive

There are over 600 grads. The list is incomplete.

Also, this list shows were kids attended. Not where they got in. Personally, my kid would go to a lesser LAC with merit and we pay full price for s higher ranked one.

I’m from the Northeast and noticed that SLACs don’t seem very popular. I once asked why so many people choose out of state publics and got crucified. I think it is a mix of money and low acceptance rates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FARMs rate? McLean is higher than Langley but lower than Justice, etc. The higher income folks who can be donors aren't sending their kids to McLean, but are at privates.

It’s not about being a donor, it’s about being able to “afford” full pay. Kids at Justice (66% FARMS) may get into a top SLAC or other school but most often can’t come close to affording the tuition. McLean (12% FARMS) has a higher percentage of families who could. My friend’s daughter got into Northwestern and another friend’s son got into Dartmouth or Brown (I can’t remember which one) and they ended up at UVA and W&M because the tuition was too much. I’m sure this happens everywhere but is more prevalent at low income schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where “quota” in college admissions means “usual maximum”, then I think PP is right that it would be unusual for a non-magnet public to get more than a few admits to any given Ivy. So McLean’s numbers look good enough in Ivy admit/matriculations and not worse than comparable public HSs in the DC metro…

For a high school in NoVa other than TJ, a dozen or more kids in any graduating class going to Ivies/MIT is on the high end.

Anecdotally, my impression is the numbers are higher at schools like Whitman and Churchill. Those schools are more likely to have legacies and fewer students turning down Ivies to attend the state flagship. There are always kids at Langley, McLean, Madison, etc. who end up turning down Ivies (not HYP, but some others) to attend UVA every year. Maybe that happens with UMCP as well, but it seems less likely.

I think many VA students do ED for UVA and don’t ever know where else they would have gotten in. My sample size is only one as my friend’s son just went through this. He had applied or was applying and pulled out when he got into UVA ED. He had a very high GPA and SAT score and was like have at least been considered by other T25 schools.

The number of lucky kids who apply to uva ED and get on is ridiculously small

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where “quota” in college admissions means “usual maximum”, then I think PP is right that it would be unusual for a non-magnet public to get more than a few admits to any given Ivy. So McLean’s numbers look good enough in Ivy admit/matriculations and not worse than comparable public HSs in the DC metro…

For a high school in NoVa other than TJ, a dozen or more kids in any graduating class going to Ivies/MIT is on the high end.

Anecdotally, my impression is the numbers are higher at schools like Whitman and Churchill. Those schools are more likely to have legacies and fewer students turning down Ivies to attend the state flagship. There are always kids at Langley, McLean, Madison, etc. who end up turning down Ivies (not HYP, but some others) to attend UVA every year. Maybe that happens with UMCP as well, but it seems less likely.

I think many VA students do ED for UVA and don’t ever know where else they would have gotten in. My sample size is only one as my friend’s son just went through this. He had applied or was applying and pulled out when he got into UVA ED. He had a very high GPA and SAT score and was like have at least been considered by other T25 schools.

The number of lucky kids who apply to uva ED and get on is ridiculously small

Not really? Plenty of ED's are accepted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where “quota” in college admissions means “usual maximum”, then I think PP is right that it would be unusual for a non-magnet public to get more than a few admits to any given Ivy. So McLean’s numbers look good enough in Ivy admit/matriculations and not worse than comparable public HSs in the DC metro…

For a high school in NoVa other than TJ, a dozen or more kids in any graduating class going to Ivies/MIT is on the high end.

Anecdotally, my impression is the numbers are higher at schools like Whitman and Churchill. Those schools are more likely to have legacies and fewer students turning down Ivies to attend the state flagship. There are always kids at Langley, McLean, Madison, etc. who end up turning down Ivies (not HYP, but some others) to attend UVA every year. Maybe that happens with UMCP as well, but it seems less likely.

I think many VA students do ED for UVA and don’t ever know where else they would have gotten in. My sample size is only one as my friend’s son just went through this. He had applied or was applying and pulled out when he got into UVA ED. He had a very high GPA and SAT score and was like have at least been considered by other T25 schools.

The number of lucky kids who apply to uva ED and get on is ridiculously small

Not really? Plenty of ED's are accepted.

Well since the class size is over 600 and less than 30 are going that seems pretty small to me ie lexx than 5%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where “quota” in college admissions means “usual maximum”, then I think PP is right that it would be unusual for a non-magnet public to get more than a few admits to any given Ivy. So McLean’s numbers look good enough in Ivy admit/matriculations and not worse than comparable public HSs in the DC metro…

For a high school in NoVa other than TJ, a dozen or more kids in any graduating class going to Ivies/MIT is on the high end.

Anecdotally, my impression is the numbers are higher at schools like Whitman and Churchill. Those schools are more likely to have legacies and fewer students turning down Ivies to attend the state flagship. There are always kids at Langley, McLean, Madison, etc. who end up turning down Ivies (not HYP, but some others) to attend UVA every year. Maybe that happens with UMCP as well, but it seems less likely.

I think many VA students do ED for UVA and don’t ever know where else they would have gotten in. My sample size is only one as my friend’s son just went through this. He had applied or was applying and pulled out when he got into UVA ED. He had a very high GPA and SAT score and was like have at least been considered by other T25 schools.

This is true of any school. ED is the first gamble all kids have to make in the process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where “quota” in college admissions means “usual maximum”, then I think PP is right that it would be unusual for a non-magnet public to get more than a few admits to any given Ivy. So McLean’s numbers look good enough in Ivy admit/matriculations and not worse than comparable public HSs in the DC metro…

For a high school in NoVa other than TJ, a dozen or more kids in any graduating class going to Ivies/MIT is on the high end.

Anecdotally, my impression is the numbers are higher at schools like Whitman and Churchill. Those schools are more likely to have legacies and fewer students turning down Ivies to attend the state flagship. There are always kids at Langley, McLean, Madison, etc. who end up turning down Ivies (not HYP, but some others) to attend UVA every year. Maybe that happens with UMCP as well, but it seems less likely.

I think many VA students do ED for UVA and don’t ever know where else they would have gotten in. My sample size is only one as my friend’s son just went through this. He had applied or was applying and pulled out when he got into UVA ED. He had a very high GPA and SAT score and was like have at least been considered by other T25 schools.

The number of lucky kids who apply to uva ED and get on is ridiculously small

Not really? Plenty of ED's are accepted.

Well since the class size is over 600 and less than 30 are going that seems pretty small to me ie lexx than 5%.

Three things: Some kids going to UVA didn't self-report their decision to the publication (that was the case at our FCPS high school); some kids were accepted to UVA but chose to go elsewhere; and, some high-performing students who most likely could have been accepted to UVA didn't apply to the school because they weren't interested in attending there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where “quota” in college admissions means “usual maximum”, then I think PP is right that it would be unusual for a non-magnet public to get more than a few admits to any given Ivy. So McLean’s numbers look good enough in Ivy admit/matriculations and not worse than comparable public HSs in the DC metro…

For a high school in NoVa other than TJ, a dozen or more kids in any graduating class going to Ivies/MIT is on the high end.

Anecdotally, my impression is the numbers are higher at schools like Whitman and Churchill. Those schools are more likely to have legacies and fewer students turning down Ivies to attend the state flagship. There are always kids at Langley, McLean, Madison, etc. who end up turning down Ivies (not HYP, but some others) to attend UVA every year. Maybe that happens with UMCP as well, but it seems less likely.

I think many VA students do ED for UVA and don’t ever know where else they would have gotten in. My sample size is only one as my friend’s son just went through this. He had applied or was applying and pulled out when he got into UVA ED. He had a very high GPA and SAT score and was like have at least been considered by other T25 schools.

The number of lucky kids who apply to uva ED and get on is ridiculously small

Not really? Plenty of ED's are accepted.

Well since the class size is over 600 and less than 30 are going that seems pretty small to me ie lexx than 5%.

If you're still talking about McLean, 37 kids reported plans to attend UVA on the class Instagram page and the number who are actually heading to UVA is likely 40-45.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Four just for Yale is crazy high no?

Wow

Legacy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where “quota” in college admissions means “usual maximum”, then I think PP is right that it would be unusual for a non-magnet public to get more than a few admits to any given Ivy. So McLean’s numbers look good enough in Ivy admit/matriculations and not worse than comparable public HSs in the DC metro…

For a high school in NoVa other than TJ, a dozen or more kids in any graduating class going to Ivies/MIT is on the high end.

Anecdotally, my impression is the numbers are higher at schools like Whitman and Churchill. Those schools are more likely to have legacies and fewer students turning down Ivies to attend the state flagship. There are always kids at Langley, McLean, Madison, etc. who end up turning down Ivies (not HYP, but some others) to attend UVA every year. Maybe that happens with UMCP as well, but it seems less likely.

I think many VA students do ED for UVA and don’t ever know where else they would have gotten in. My sample size is only one as my friend’s son just went through this. He had applied or was applying and pulled out when he got into UVA ED. He had a very high GPA and SAT score and was like have at least been considered by other T25 schools.

That’s still less land


The number of lucky kids who apply to uva ED and get on is ridiculously small

Not really? Plenty of ED's are accepted.

Well since the class size is over 600 and less than 30 are going that seems pretty small to me ie lexx than 5%.

If you're still talking about McLean, 37 kids reported plans to attend UVA on the class Instagram page and the number who are actually heading to UVA is likely 40-45.

Still less than 8% and it includes all acceptances not just ED, again pretty small number.