Any chance of negotiating fully remote instead of hybrid in this market?

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Anonymous wrote:As a hiring manager, I would be completely annoyed if we got to the end and then you asked me.

Agreed. You would be labeled as a bit of a problem child from the offset. It says something negative about your character to waste people’s time, knowing you’d only accept a remote job but applying and interviewing for hybrid roles.

If you’re going to do that, then you need to make it clear from the very beginning that you only want to move forward in the process if the role can be considered for fully remote.

Op here. I already explained that when I applied for the role, I was on board with moving to the new location (I mean, tentatively-I’d never been there before). The hiring process took a super long time on the company’s side.

I currently go in to an office 3 days a week, so I’m not opposed. My challenge is the cross country move for my family. It would have worked if the company hadn’t been so slow in their hiring process.

It sounds like your options are not taking the job at all now, because it doesn't work for your family - or at least raising the possibility of remote work and seeing what happens. I think you're right that when a hiring process goes on this long, they do run the risk that YOUR circumstances will have changed by the time they get around to actually filling the position. I can't see how it hurts to ask, anyway - the counterfactual is that you turn the job down without asking for this accommodation. Anyway for all you know THEIR workplace policies have changed since you started interviewing!

6 months is a long time!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a hiring manager, I would be completely annoyed if we got to the end and then you asked me.

Op here. More annoyed than if the candidate just withdrew at the very end? Or just declined your offer?

A big part of this is on the company, their process was too long and ultimately isn’t it on them to sell me on the role as much as I’m trying to sell them on myself ?

You should have withdrawn immediately or told them immediately. I think it's dishonest and it absolutely looks dishonest too.

Op here. I already explained the change in DW’s job only happened in the last week. My final interview was at the end of March. I didn’t string them along.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a hiring manager, I would be completely annoyed if we got to the end and then you asked me.

Op here. More annoyed than if the candidate just withdrew at the very end? Or just declined your offer?

A big part of this is on the company, their process was too long and ultimately isn’t it on them to sell me on the role as much as I’m trying to sell them on myself ?

You should have withdrawn immediately or told them immediately. I think it's dishonest and it absolutely looks dishonest too.

You people are so pathetic. Not only can you not read what the OP has stated multiple times, but it’s not dishonest. Everything is a negotiation. Everything, especially in this labor market. The employee is in the power position and does not owe any loyalties to the company. I have people negotiate benefits, salary, and working conditions/locations all the time. Just because a jobs salary range is 200-275, doesn’t mean someone shouldn’t ask for 300k. Same concept. You all are so bush league. Right now my company is trying to make everyone hybrid and every single person I interview had pushed back. Every. Single. One. I’ve had to get multiple waivers or else I wouldn’t be able to staff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a hiring manager, I would be completely annoyed if we got to the end and then you asked me.

Op here. More annoyed than if the candidate just withdrew at the very end? Or just declined your offer?

A big part of this is on the company, their process was too long and ultimately isn’t it on them to sell me on the role as much as I’m trying to sell them on myself ?

You should have withdrawn immediately or told them immediately. I think it's dishonest and it absolutely looks dishonest too.

Op here. I already explained the change in DW’s job only happened in the last week. My final interview was at the end of March. I didn’t string them along.

Ignore these illiterates. They need to hit YouTube and watch some PBS reruns of Reading Rainbow and lean how to read and comprehend.