Any chance of negotiating fully remote instead of hybrid in this market?

[Anonymous]

My assumption is no, but wondering if anyone has any experience with this from the last 6 months or so.

Assume the role is one that is set up for and allows hybrid work (2-3 days remote per week).

Also assume we’re talking higher level, specialized roles.

In my specific situation, I’ve done 5 rounds of interviews for a job that is hybrid, but due to a recent change in DW’s work situation that came up during the very long interview process, moving out of state is no longer an option for my family. I know the company is interested in me and likely to make an offer, but I can only accept if they let me work remotely, with frequent travel to their location.

I’m unsure if I should tell them now or wait until after the offer (if I get one, which is likely as they just checked my references).

[Anonymous]

I'd hold off and ask after offer.

[Anonymous]

My wife wont let me is your bargaining chip?

[Anonymous]

So they told you the parameters of the job at the beginning and you agreed to them and now you are seeking to significantly alter the terms? You can certainly do this but I would expect them to be irritated with you and go with someone else unless you are the only person that can do what you do.

[Anonymous]

Can’t imagine….Maybe if you started and they really liked you but not when negotiating an offer. Besides, fully remote can be snatched back, so it would really only work if they gave you some kind of guarantee and if they wanted the job to be hybrid, why would they do this?

Are there other fully remote employees? One issue with fully remote from another state is there may be implications re taxes or other issues that the employer hasn’t taken into account if there are not other employees in this model.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My wife wont let me is your bargaining chip?

Where are you even getting this?

[Anonymous]

The answer is you get to finish line and then you tell them that you can’t move right now, but are open to it next year. You’ll travel for the first year. Then after a year, you just don’t move. They’ll be used to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So they told you the parameters of the job at the beginning and you agreed to them and now you are seeking to significantly alter the terms? You can certainly do this but I would expect them to be irritated with you and go with someone else unless you are the only person that can do what you do.

Op here. At the outset, as in, when I applied for the job back in November 2022, the parameters would have worked. In the subsequent 7 months and after learning more about the role and now that some things have changed with my family, I’ve realized the move won’t work for my family but I’m still interested in the job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My wife wont let me is your bargaining chip?

Op here. Her job went from fully remote to hybrid so she can’t move out of state now.

[Anonymous]

You can try but expect them to be annoyed and not oblige.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So they told you the parameters of the job at the beginning and you agreed to them and now you are seeking to significantly alter the terms? You can certainly do this but I would expect them to be irritated with you and go with someone else unless you are the only person that can do what you do.

Op here. At the outset, as in, when I applied for the job back in November 2022, the parameters would have worked. In the subsequent 7 months and after learning more about the role and now that some things have changed with my family, I’ve realized the move won’t work for my family but I’m still interested in the job.

PP here and I hear what you're saying but that's how they're going to see this.

[Anonymous]

I was hired fully remote and am now being switched to hybrid it’s so annoying.

[Anonymous]

If you are prioritizing her job then ask yours upfront about the possibility. You may have some wiggle room since this has been a nearly year-long process.

I will disclose I’m bitter because my company has extended offers to multiple people who subsequently backed out after trying to negotiate out of previously-stated policies. In the process we’ve lost other qualified candidates because the original folks wasted our time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can try but expect them to be annoyed and not oblige.

Op here. I mean the alternative is I just withdraw without explaining what I need to make it work-would that be preferable?

[Anonymous]

As a hiring manager, I would be completely annoyed if we got to the end and then you asked me.