Floida is investigating a teacher who showed a Disney movie with a gay character

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think kids should be exposed to life in a childlike way. There is plenty of violence and love in disney movies. This was an overreaction.

Okay, in disney movies, all step moms are haggard and evil, and try to murder their step daughters. Hardly a progressive message of inclusion. Disney has a lot of hot takes, and people notice them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent I would be annoyed if a teacher showed this movie unless it were a rainy day during lunch or the last day of school or maybe even if there were a substitute. The teacher claims:

“Barbee said the movie focuses on humans' relationship to the environment, which was why she chose to show it to her class after a section on ecosystems, plants and animals.”

There are so many amazing Natgeo documentaries on Disney+ it’s ridiculous the teacher wasted time showing this movie. It is not based on a novel the students read either. She sounds like a lazy teacher. And not too bright if she works in Florida and thought no one would complain. If you go to common sense media there are a bunch of complaints from wacky parents.

Good lord you sound like a scrooge. The kids had just taken a standardized test. It's a Disney film for crissake. Lighten up.

Kids don't need to be sitting in school watching movies that tanked in the theater. This movie was a box office flop. So many kids don't watch any documentary shows like Nat Geo. Take the students outside for extra recess, build towers with marshmallows and toothpicks, clean desks with shaving cream, do a fun art project, play board games, etc. I was a teacher and the teachers that just played movies at every opportunity were for the most part lazy teachers. I am not talking about students earning a movie as a reward, or reading a book then watching the movie (ex. One and Only Ivan, Hoot, etc.). I am not buying the - let's have the student connect with "ecosystems, plants and animals" explanation for showing the film.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent I would be annoyed if a teacher showed this movie unless it were a rainy day during lunch or the last day of school or maybe even if there were a substitute. The teacher claims:

“Barbee said the movie focuses on humans' relationship to the environment, which was why she chose to show it to her class after a section on ecosystems, plants and animals.”

There are so many amazing Natgeo documentaries on Disney+ it’s ridiculous the teacher wasted time showing this movie. It is not based on a novel the students read either. She sounds like a lazy teacher. And not too bright if she works in Florida and thought no one would complain. If you go to common sense media there are a bunch of complaints from wacky parents.

+1. It's unbelievable what passes for "education" these days.

Whether or not people agree with religion, there are a lot of religious, conservative, or traditional people that don't want their kids to view materials that are counter to their values.

If you think that they are wrong and want their kids to view materials that promote lifestyles that are counter to their values, that is also an ideological position.

So rather than pit one ideological position against another, let's leave ideology out of the classroom and stop talking to elementary students about sex, full stop.

Viewing material that indicates gay people exist isn't talking about sex whatsoever you nutcase? Do you think kids with gay parents should be banned from ever mentioning their parents to other kids? Because you are implying that.

Sounds fascist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So in order not to be discriminatory, no movie that shows any kind of romantic attraction or relationships - hetero or gay - should ever be shown.

How many movies even exist that don't have some kind of love relationship in them?

Only hetero movies are allowed according to the fascist posters on this forum

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent I would be annoyed if a teacher showed this movie unless it were a rainy day during lunch or the last day of school or maybe even if there were a substitute. The teacher claims:

“Barbee said the movie focuses on humans' relationship to the environment, which was why she chose to show it to her class after a section on ecosystems, plants and animals.”

There are so many amazing Natgeo documentaries on Disney+ it’s ridiculous the teacher wasted time showing this movie. It is not based on a novel the students read either. She sounds like a lazy teacher. And not too bright if she works in Florida and thought no one would complain. If you go to common sense media there are a bunch of complaints from wacky parents.

+1. It's unbelievable what passes for "education" these days.

Whether or not people agree with religion, there are a lot of religious, conservative, or traditional people that don't want their kids to view materials that are counter to their values.

If you think that they are wrong and want their kids to view materials that promote lifestyles that are counter to their values, that is also an ideological position.

So rather than pit one ideological position against another, let's leave ideology out of the classroom and stop talking to elementary students about sex, full stop.

Viewing material that indicates gay people exist isn't talking about sex whatsoever you nutcase? Do you think kids with gay parents should be banned from ever mentioning their parents to other kids? Because you are implying that.

Sounds fascist.

I'm not remotely Implying that, you Marxist 1984 thought police Jr anti-sex leaguer. Get a life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent I would be annoyed if a teacher showed this movie unless it were a rainy day during lunch or the last day of school or maybe even if there were a substitute. The teacher claims:

“Barbee said the movie focuses on humans' relationship to the environment, which was why she chose to show it to her class after a section on ecosystems, plants and animals.”

There are so many amazing Natgeo documentaries on Disney+ it’s ridiculous the teacher wasted time showing this movie. It is not based on a novel the students read either. She sounds like a lazy teacher. And not too bright if she works in Florida and thought no one would complain. If you go to common sense media there are a bunch of complaints from wacky parents.

Good lord you sound like a scrooge. The kids had just taken a standardized test. It's a Disney film for crissake. Lighten up.

Just because it is disney, doesn't mean there isn't a message.

Old disney movie, gay implied characters are evil characters. The Lion King uncle lion, little mermaid sea witch, evil vizer in aladdin, Robin Hood prince John lion etc. All over the top campy characters.

On other hand, Disney movies say ignore parents, they know nothing (but parent's turn out ot be correct) so subsersive in another direction.

Also, more recently, very pro LGBT messaging.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/04/its-not-just-frozen-disney-has-always-been-subtly-pro-gay/361060/

We think disney ok, but may or may not agree with the values of some people.

Is English your second language?

yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent I would be annoyed if a teacher showed this movie unless it were a rainy day during lunch or the last day of school or maybe even if there were a substitute. The teacher claims:

“Barbee said the movie focuses on humans' relationship to the environment, which was why she chose to show it to her class after a section on ecosystems, plants and animals.”

There are so many amazing Natgeo documentaries on Disney+ it’s ridiculous the teacher wasted time showing this movie. It is not based on a novel the students read either. She sounds like a lazy teacher. And not too bright if she works in Florida and thought no one would complain. If you go to common sense media there are a bunch of complaints from wacky parents.

+1. It's unbelievable what passes for "education" these days.

Whether or not people agree with religion, there are a lot of religious, conservative, or traditional people that don't want their kids to view materials that are counter to their values.

If you think that they are wrong and want their kids to view materials that promote lifestyles that are counter to their values, that is also an ideological position.

So rather than pit one ideological position against another, let's leave ideology out of the classroom and stop talking to elementary students about sex, full stop.

Viewing material that indicates gay people exist isn't talking about sex whatsoever you nutcase? Do you think kids with gay parents should be banned from ever mentioning their parents to other kids? Because you are implying that.

Sounds fascist.

I'm not remotely Implying that, you Marxist 1984 thought police Jr anti-sex leaguer. Get a life.

There is virtually nothing that could be shown that won't offend someone somewhere. So either we are lax overly overly strict. I err towards lax because overly strict means a cascading domino effect of fascism.

The movie was appropriate for the age group, bottom line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent I would be annoyed if a teacher showed this movie unless it were a rainy day during lunch or the last day of school or maybe even if there were a substitute. The teacher claims:

“Barbee said the movie focuses on humans' relationship to the environment, which was why she chose to show it to her class after a section on ecosystems, plants and animals.”

There are so many amazing Natgeo documentaries on Disney+ it’s ridiculous the teacher wasted time showing this movie. It is not based on a novel the students read either. She sounds like a lazy teacher. And not too bright if she works in Florida and thought no one would complain. If you go to common sense media there are a bunch of complaints from wacky parents.

+1. It's unbelievable what passes for "education" these days.

Whether or not people agree with religion, there are a lot of religious, conservative, or traditional people that don't want their kids to view materials that are counter to their values.

If you think that they are wrong and want their kids to view materials that promote lifestyles that are counter to their values, that is also an ideological position.

So rather than pit one ideological position against another, let's leave ideology out of the classroom and stop talking to elementary students about sex, full stop.

Viewing material that indicates gay people exist isn't talking about sex whatsoever you nutcase? Do you think kids with gay parents should be banned from ever mentioning their parents to other kids? Because you are implying that.

Sounds fascist.

I'm not remotely Implying that, you Marxist 1984 thought police Jr anti-sex leaguer. Get a life.

There is virtually nothing that could be shown that won't offend someone somewhere. So either we are lax overly overly strict. I err towards lax because overly strict means a cascading domino effect of fascism.

The movie was appropriate for the age group, bottom line.

Surely you understand the difference between real life parents and a Disney movie with animated characters having a crush, right?

Kids don't need a Disney movie to walk them through the giddy emotions and lovestruck moments that eventually lead to their existence.

This is why our kids can't do math as well as kids in other nations. Their parents insist that they get rigorous education. Chinese parents are not arguing with each other about Disney movies or the appropriate balance of gay to straight cartoon heros in their classroom movie sessions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent I would be annoyed if a teacher showed this movie unless it were a rainy day during lunch or the last day of school or maybe even if there were a substitute. The teacher claims:

“Barbee said the movie focuses on humans' relationship to the environment, which was why she chose to show it to her class after a section on ecosystems, plants and animals.”

There are so many amazing Natgeo documentaries on Disney+ it’s ridiculous the teacher wasted time showing this movie. It is not based on a novel the students read either. She sounds like a lazy teacher. And not too bright if she works in Florida and thought no one would complain. If you go to common sense media there are a bunch of complaints from wacky parents.

+1. It's unbelievable what passes for "education" these days.

Whether or not people agree with religion, there are a lot of religious, conservative, or traditional people that don't want their kids to view materials that are counter to their values.

If you think that they are wrong and want their kids to view materials that promote lifestyles that are counter to their values, that is also an ideological position.

So rather than pit one ideological position against another, let's leave ideology out of the classroom and stop talking to elementary students about sex, full stop.

Viewing material that indicates gay people exist isn't talking about sex whatsoever you nutcase? Do you think kids with gay parents should be banned from ever mentioning their parents to other kids? Because you are implying that.

Sounds fascist.

I'm not remotely Implying that, you Marxist 1984 thought police Jr anti-sex leaguer. Get a life.

There is virtually nothing that could be shown that won't offend someone somewhere. So either we are lax overly overly strict. I err towards lax because overly strict means a cascading domino effect of fascism.

The movie was appropriate for the age group, bottom line.

BTW, I'm becoming convinced that fascism = Fnord. All reaction, no substance.

[Anonymous]

Wrongthink is banned in Florida. No one is permitted to think anything not approved by the state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wrongthink is banned in Florida. No one is permitted to think anything not approved by the state.

You know that public schools are the state, right?

If you attempt to use schools, or law enforcement, or any other instrument of state power to reverse the religious teachings within a family, that is much closer to fascism than the supposed fascism of parents having a voice in their childrens education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent I would be annoyed if a teacher showed this movie unless it were a rainy day during lunch or the last day of school or maybe even if there were a substitute. The teacher claims:

“Barbee said the movie focuses on humans' relationship to the environment, which was why she chose to show it to her class after a section on ecosystems, plants and animals.”

There are so many amazing Natgeo documentaries on Disney+ it’s ridiculous the teacher wasted time showing this movie. It is not based on a novel the students read either. She sounds like a lazy teacher. And not too bright if she works in Florida and thought no one would complain. If you go to common sense media there are a bunch of complaints from wacky parents.

+1. It's unbelievable what passes for "education" these days.

Whether or not people agree with religion, there are a lot of religious, conservative, or traditional people that don't want their kids to view materials that are counter to their values.

If you think that they are wrong and want their kids to view materials that promote lifestyles that are counter to their values, that is also an ideological position.

So rather than pit one ideological position against another, let's leave ideology out of the classroom and stop talking to elementary students about sex, full stop.

Viewing material that indicates gay people exist isn't talking about sex whatsoever you nutcase? Do you think kids with gay parents should be banned from ever mentioning their parents to other kids? Because you are implying that.

Sounds fascist.

I'm not remotely Implying that, you Marxist 1984 thought police Jr anti-sex leaguer. Get a life.

There is virtually nothing that could be shown that won't offend someone somewhere. So either we are lax overly overly strict. I err towards lax because overly strict means a cascading domino effect of fascism.

The movie was appropriate for the age group, bottom line.

BTW, I'm becoming convinced that fascism = Fnord. All reaction, no substance.

Oh.

Well here you go, Field of Dreams scene from over 30 years ago. Fascists then, fascists now. Or it was ok to use fascist then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent I would be annoyed if a teacher showed this movie unless it were a rainy day during lunch or the last day of school or maybe even if there were a substitute. The teacher claims:

“Barbee said the movie focuses on humans' relationship to the environment, which was why she chose to show it to her class after a section on ecosystems, plants and animals.”

There are so many amazing Natgeo documentaries on Disney+ it’s ridiculous the teacher wasted time showing this movie. It is not based on a novel the students read either. She sounds like a lazy teacher. And not too bright if she works in Florida and thought no one would complain. If you go to common sense media there are a bunch of complaints from wacky parents.

+1. It's unbelievable what passes for "education" these days.

Whether or not people agree with religion, there are a lot of religious, conservative, or traditional people that don't want their kids to view materials that are counter to their values.

If you think that they are wrong and want their kids to view materials that promote lifestyles that are counter to their values, that is also an ideological position.

So rather than pit one ideological position against another, let's leave ideology out of the classroom and stop talking to elementary students about sex, full stop.

"lifestyles"

How are you going to get rid of all content that "promote lifestyles" when literally most school material involves human beings? According to your way of thinking, we all are promoting our own lifestyles. You are promoting your own lifestyle, whatever that may be.

Also, where is there sex in the film she showed?

Yes, humans have lifestyles. But they aren't showing a film of my lifestyle to children. Nor would I recommend doing that, it's NSFW and definitely not for school.

So you agree, no movies that show any kind of human romantic relationship/partnership of any kind should ever be shown to children.

They should stick to educational documentaries like natgeo, as a pp suggested.

In nature, the vast majority of sex is heterosexual. It's fine to show March of the Penguin, for example, and its portrayal of heterosexual penguins. Im not aware of a gay penguin documentary, or a documentary where a boy penguin wishes it could lay eggs or anything like that. If such a documentary exist it would be interesting to watch.

But yes. I think our culture is now bifurcated between secularists and traditionalists, and both sides treat their views as religious in nature. So that limits what it is acceptable for public schools to screen during movie time.

In nature, the vast majority of creatures are not disabled or deformed. So that means movies shouldn’t promote the disabled or deformed lifestyle, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrongthink is banned in Florida. No one is permitted to think anything not approved by the state.

You know that public schools are the state, right?

If you attempt to use schools, or law enforcement, or any other instrument of state power to reverse the religious teachings within a family, that is much closer to fascism than the supposed fascism of parents having a voice in their childrens education.

Showing gay-ness in an innocent way in a Disney movie isn't reversing a family's religious teaching FFS. Nor is teaching evolution or do you oppose that too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wrongthink is banned in Florida. No one is permitted to think anything not approved by the state.

You know that public schools are the state, right?

If you attempt to use schools, or law enforcement, or any other instrument of state power to reverse the religious teachings within a family, that is much closer to fascism than the supposed fascism of parents having a voice in their childrens education.

Showing gay-ness in an innocent way in a Disney movie isn't reversing a family's religious teaching FFS. Nor is teaching evolution or do you oppose that too?

In elementary school, they don't need to show movies about "gay-ness" or evolution. They can also skip the angsty hetero crush movies. Like, all the movies, they can skip.