USSC decision on AA expected next month

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

I’m Asian American and I think holistic admissions which includes a consideration of race is fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

I’m Asian American and I think holistic admissions which includes a consideration of race is fine.

Goody for you. You haven't been through the college admissions drama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

I’m Asian American and I think holistic admissions which includes a consideration of race is fine.

Goody for you. You haven't been through the college admissions drama.

Just FYI, political views are very diverse among Asian-Americans. No different from any other race or ethnicity. There are Black liberals and Black conservatives. Likewise for Hispanics.

But on the issue of AA, opposition is overwhelming.

Since people have mentioned Prop 209 in CA, a couple of years ago CA liberals put a ballot initiative (Prop 16) on the ballot to overturn Prop 209, thinking that with a much larger Hispanic population than 24 years ago, and the fact that the state had turned deep blue, they could easily overturn Prop 209. That attempt failed disastrously. Hispanics came out overwhelmingly against AA. In Riverside County, the same Hispanic voters who turned out big for Biden also overwhelmingly voted against Prop 16.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

Citing an OPINION EDITORIAL i.e. Op-Ed or one person's opinion, to refute survey data that clearly indicate 50%+ AAPI support ( very worse case) for affirmative action is pretty lame.

Ed Blum has you right where he wants you: as a pawn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

I’m Asian American and I think holistic admissions which includes a consideration of race is fine.

Goody for you. You haven't been through the college admissions drama.

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We’ve been through it multiple times including post COVID. Everyone gets in somewhere great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

Citing an OPINION EDITORIAL i.e. Op-Ed or one person's opinion, to refute survey data that clearly indicate 50%+ AAPI support ( very worse case) for affirmative action is pretty lame.

Ed Blum has you right where he wants you: as a pawn.

But a vast majority of Asian-Americans refuse to be pawns of woke liberal elite.

[Anonymous]

Not another post about the pending USSC ruling on AA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

Citing an OPINION EDITORIAL i.e. Op-Ed or one person's opinion, to refute survey data that clearly indicate 50%+ AAPI support ( very worse case) for affirmative action is pretty lame.

Ed Blum has you right where he wants you: as a pawn.

But a vast majority of Asian-Americans refuse to be pawns of woke liberal elite.

LOL! Nope, the vast majority of Asian Americans are part of the liberal elite. Most don't fall for the political divisive crap. It's fine to disagree with affirmative action --liberals have a range of viewpoints on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

Citing an OPINION EDITORIAL i.e. Op-Ed or one person's opinion, to refute survey data that clearly indicate 50%+ AAPI support ( very worse case) for affirmative action is pretty lame.

Ed Blum has you right where he wants you: as a pawn.

But a vast majority of Asian-Americans refuse to be pawns of woke liberal elite.

LOL! Nope, the vast majority of Asian Americans are part of the liberal elite. Most don't fall for the political divisive crap. It's fine to disagree with affirmative action --liberals have a range of viewpoints on it.

+1

And people who use "woke" as a pejorative term can't be taken seriously.

Maybe the PP misses Tucker C.

[Anonymous]

Great one step forward.

Now we need to do something with ALDC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

Citing an OPINION EDITORIAL i.e. Op-Ed or one person's opinion, to refute survey data that clearly indicate 50%+ AAPI support ( very worse case) for affirmative action is pretty lame.

Ed Blum has you right where he wants you: as a pawn.

But a vast majority of Asian-Americans refuse to be pawns of woke liberal elite.

The vast majority of people who use the word “woke” cannot define it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

I’m Asian American and I think holistic admissions which includes a consideration of race is fine.

Goody for you. You haven't been through the college admissions drama.

Different Asian American. My kid is a senior and has just completed the drama. I agree that holistic admissions with a consideration of race is fine. I get you disagree. But we are not a monolith. And many of us will have different positions than you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

I disagree that many support SES/income-based affirmative action. See the uproar over the new TJ admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

I disagree that many support SES/income-based affirmative action. See the uproar over the new TJ admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard that Asian-American groups are already planning to celebrate the termination of AA. They wished that SCOTUS would issue the opinion in May, the AAPI Heritage Month. But no, SCOTUS won’t issue this landmark opinion until the end of the term in June. They regard this as the most significant civil rights victory by Asian-Americans since US v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), which ruled that anyone born in the US is a US citizen according to the 14th Amendment.

Most Asian Americans support AA, so your "celebration" thing is off base.

The AAPI survey that found this was misleadingI don't know a single Asian American who supports race based college admissions, and I am Asian American. I and many I know support SES/income based affirmative action, but not race based.

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/3886266-affirmative-misinformation-what-asian-americans-really-think-of-affirmative-action/

a closer look reveals that the AAPI Data’s survey questions intentionally incline respondents to express support for the controversial admissions policy, revealing more about the question Asian Americans were asked than the values they hold. The reality is that many Asian Americans are not as enthusiastic about racial preferences as AAPI Data and much of the media would like us to believe.

The question behind the statistic reads: “Do you favor or oppose affirmative action programs designed to help Black people, women and other minorities get better access to education?”

In every such survey, the “better access” question produced an overwhelmingly positive response — not only did over 60 percent of all respondents say they favored affirmative action, but so did a majority of each individual Asian-origin group.

In 2018 and 2016, however, AAPI Data included a second question about race-based college admissions on the AAVS, which read: “In general, do you think affirmative action programs designed to increase the number of Black and minority students on college campuses are a good thing or a bad thing?” The answers to that question tell an entirely different story.

In 2018, support for affirmative action among Asian Americans as a whole was 8 percentage points lower (58 percent) in response to the “increase the number” question than in response to its “better access” question (66 percent). In 2016, there was a 12 percentage-point gap — 64 percent support on the “better access” question but only 52 percent on the “increase the number” question. Moreover, in 2016, nearly two-thirds of Chinese American participants responded to the “increase the number” question by saying affirmative action is a “bad thing,” an instance of majority disapproval of the policy.

Citing an OPINION EDITORIAL i.e. Op-Ed or one person's opinion, to refute survey data that clearly indicate 50%+ AAPI support ( very worse case) for affirmative action is pretty lame.

Ed Blum has you right where he wants you: as a pawn.

You don't get it, do you? We Asian Americans KNOW fully well Blum is using us as a pawn. Guess what, so does the left. The left pretends to include us but really only cares about their core vote banks - poor Blacks and poor Hispanics. If you'd read the threads on the AAP forums around the time TJ admissions were redone, you'd have seen the latent hatred people have for Asians (Jealousy, maybe?). Yeah.. we know when to allow someone to 'use' us as pawns and when not to. After all, we are smarter than you.