MacArthur High School

[Anonymous]

Please tell us where your kids go to high school. That would be a helpful piece of information to assess your righteous take on things.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is wrong. As of my latest data point, 2/3 of Hardy students choosing between JR and MHS choose MHS.

All "lottery seats" were matched with students attending Deal and Oyster. So the student body will be Hardy/Deal/Oyster almost exclusively.

. Really? Same old story, Capitol Hill gets the short end of the stick on DC public high schools.

Capitol Hill deserves better by-right HSs. But the idea that Macarthur would be part of the CH solution is absurd.

They’ve got great facilities.

Oh wait, you meant fewer poors.

It isn't poor people I object to. It's 93% of kids behind grade level and a culture of low expectations perpetuated by people like you who refuse to demand more. I don't want my kid in classes with kids behind grade level. I don't want my kid in a school with kids that cannot behave. I don't want my kids in schools where people like you think demanding academic excellence is "racist".

By all means, continue to win your little faux equity battle while kids with options whom you resent find alternatives and POC without options are failed for yet another generation. That'll teach me!

Are you afraid the kids behind grade level are going to infect your children somehow? Are your kids so delicate that they can thrive only if they are surrounded by kids you consider to be their academic peers?

Seems like you’re the one perpetuating a culture of low expectations….

dp: If academic peers don't matter, then how come people throughout the city try to lottery into Banneker, Walls, J-R, and ESs with relatively test scores?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is wrong. As of my latest data point, 2/3 of Hardy students choosing between JR and MHS choose MHS.

All "lottery seats" were matched with students attending Deal and Oyster. So the student body will be Hardy/Deal/Oyster almost exclusively.

. Really? Same old story, Capitol Hill gets the short end of the stick on DC public high schools.

Capitol Hill deserves better by-right HSs. But the idea that Macarthur would be part of the CH solution is absurd.

They’ve got great facilities.

Oh wait, you meant fewer poors.

It isn't poor people I object to. It's 93% of kids behind grade level and a culture of low expectations perpetuated by people like you who refuse to demand more. I don't want my kid in classes with kids behind grade level. I don't want my kid in a school with kids that cannot behave. I don't want my kids in schools where people like you think demanding academic excellence is "racist".

By all means, continue to win your little faux equity battle while kids with options whom you resent find alternatives and POC without options are failed for yet another generation. That'll teach me!

+1000!!!

The problem is you. If the kids zoned for Eastern would enroll and attend, you would get what you’re seeking. CH folks are too scattered going to various charters. You and your neighbors need to make an intentional effort to attend Eastern and you’d automatically have the peer group you’re looking for. Hardy did it. Wells appears to be doing it. What’s up with Capitol Hill?

What? Hardy feeds to JR (or did). That's why Hardy built up. Eastern is a sh*t show. There's zero logic in this post. And what the heck are you talking about with Wells? It feeds to Coolidge. What data are you looking at that indicates Wells and and Hardy belong in the same sentence?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is wrong. As of my latest data point, 2/3 of Hardy students choosing between JR and MHS choose MHS.

All "lottery seats" were matched with students attending Deal and Oyster. So the student body will be Hardy/Deal/Oyster almost exclusively.

. Really? Same old story, Capitol Hill gets the short end of the stick on DC public high schools.

Capitol Hill deserves better by-right HSs. But the idea that Macarthur would be part of the CH solution is absurd.

They’ve got great facilities.

Oh wait, you meant fewer poors.

It isn't poor people I object to. It's 93% of kids behind grade level and a culture of low expectations perpetuated by people like you who refuse to demand more. I don't want my kid in classes with kids behind grade level. I don't want my kid in a school with kids that cannot behave. I don't want my kids in schools where people like you think demanding academic excellence is "racist".

By all means, continue to win your little faux equity battle while kids with options whom you resent find alternatives and POC without options are failed for yet another generation. That'll teach me!

Are you afraid the kids behind grade level are going to infect your children somehow? Are your kids so delicate that they can thrive only if they are surrounded by kids you consider to be their academic peers?

Seems like you’re the one perpetuating a culture of low expectations….

Yes. I'm afraid that being in a school where 9.5 out of 10 kids are behind grade level is going to make it impossible for any advanced work. I'm afraid that schools like that have people like you speaking for them, and that people like you have normalized violence , social promotion and meaningless diplomas, and that voices demanding excellence are drowned out by hollow accusations of racism. Mostly I feel sorry for those high schools because people like you are responsible for their decline and the failure to educate another generation of black DC kids. I've got money, mobility and options. Plus, my kids are white so they don't have to work harder and be twice as good to get a fair shot. My kids will graduate from high schools with diplomas that are meaningful to well regarded colleges. It is beyond me why you are more focused on demonizing people who want those schools to improve than you are schools that are by every measurable and objective metric, failing badly.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is wrong. As of my latest data point, 2/3 of Hardy students choosing between JR and MHS choose MHS.

All "lottery seats" were matched with students attending Deal and Oyster. So the student body will be Hardy/Deal/Oyster almost exclusively.

. Really? Same old story, Capitol Hill gets the short end of the stick on DC public high schools.

Capitol Hill deserves better by-right HSs. But the idea that Macarthur would be part of the CH solution is absurd.

They’ve got great facilities.

Oh wait, you meant fewer poors.

It isn't poor people I object to. It's 93% of kids behind grade level and a culture of low expectations perpetuated by people like you who refuse to demand more. I don't want my kid in classes with kids behind grade level. I don't want my kid in a school with kids that cannot behave. I don't want my kids in schools where people like you think demanding academic excellence is "racist".

By all means, continue to win your little faux equity battle while kids with options whom you resent find alternatives and POC without options are failed for yet another generation. That'll teach me!

Are you afraid the kids behind grade level are going to infect your children somehow? Are your kids so delicate that they can thrive only if they are surrounded by kids you consider to be their academic peers?

Seems like you’re the one perpetuating a culture of low expectations….

Yes. I'm afraid that being in a school where 9.5 out of 10 kids are behind grade level is going to make it impossible for any advanced work. I'm afraid that schools like that have people like you speaking for them, and that people like you have normalized violence , social promotion and meaningless diplomas, and that voices demanding excellence are drowned out by hollow accusations of racism. Mostly I feel sorry for those high schools because people like you are responsible for their decline and the failure to educate another generation of black DC kids. I've got money, mobility and options. Plus, my kids are white so they don't have to work harder and be twice as good to get a fair shot. My kids will graduate from high schools with diplomas that are meaningful to well regarded colleges. It is beyond me why you are more focused on demonizing people who want those schools to improve than you are schools that are by every measurable and objective metric, failing badly.

NP: You don't want them to improve though. You want to keep focusing on the bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is wrong. As of my latest data point, 2/3 of Hardy students choosing between JR and MHS choose MHS.

All "lottery seats" were matched with students attending Deal and Oyster. So the student body will be Hardy/Deal/Oyster almost exclusively.

. Really? Same old story, Capitol Hill gets the short end of the stick on DC public high schools.

Capitol Hill deserves better by-right HSs. But the idea that Macarthur would be part of the CH solution is absurd.

They’ve got great facilities.

Oh wait, you meant fewer poors.

It isn't poor people I object to. It's 93% of kids behind grade level and a culture of low expectations perpetuated by people like you who refuse to demand more. I don't want my kid in classes with kids behind grade level. I don't want my kid in a school with kids that cannot behave. I don't want my kids in schools where people like you think demanding academic excellence is "racist".

By all means, continue to win your little faux equity battle while kids with options whom you resent find alternatives and POC without options are failed for yet another generation. That'll teach me!

Are you afraid the kids behind grade level are going to infect your children somehow? Are your kids so delicate that they can thrive only if they are surrounded by kids you consider to be their academic peers?

Seems like you’re the one perpetuating a culture of low expectations….

Yes. I'm afraid that being in a school where 9.5 out of 10 kids are behind grade level is going to make it impossible for any advanced work. I'm afraid that schools like that have people like you speaking for them, and that people like you have normalized violence , social promotion and meaningless diplomas, and that voices demanding excellence are drowned out by hollow accusations of racism. Mostly I feel sorry for those high schools because people like you are responsible for their decline and the failure to educate another generation of black DC kids. I've got money, mobility and options. Plus, my kids are white so they don't have to work harder and be twice as good to get a fair shot. My kids will graduate from high schools with diplomas that are meaningful to well regarded colleges. It is beyond me why you are more focused on demonizing people who want those schools to improve than you are schools that are by every measurable and objective metric, failing badly.

NP: You don't want them to improve though. You want to keep focusing on the bad.

That's a false choice and an excuse; the two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. They are failing...FULL STOP. The data tells us this. We do the kids and teachers and families no service by pretending otherwise. Your response is a common deflection when faced with facts you don't like. Nothing that is perpetually failing can improve without first evaluating and then identifying weaknesses in the current condition. You are unwilling to do the work. You (like the poster before) prefer to attack the messenger and than to do the actual work. I want the schools to improve. I fear they won't as long as people like you play your games.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is wrong. As of my latest data point, 2/3 of Hardy students choosing between JR and MHS choose MHS.

All "lottery seats" were matched with students attending Deal and Oyster. So the student body will be Hardy/Deal/Oyster almost exclusively.

. Really? Same old story, Capitol Hill gets the short end of the stick on DC public high schools.

Capitol Hill deserves better by-right HSs. But the idea that Macarthur would be part of the CH solution is absurd.

They’ve got great facilities.

Oh wait, you meant fewer poors.

It isn't poor people I object to. It's 93% of kids behind grade level and a culture of low expectations perpetuated by people like you who refuse to demand more. I don't want my kid in classes with kids behind grade level. I don't want my kid in a school with kids that cannot behave. I don't want my kids in schools where people like you think demanding academic excellence is "racist".

By all means, continue to win your little faux equity battle while kids with options whom you resent find alternatives and POC without options are failed for yet another generation. That'll teach me!

Are you afraid the kids behind grade level are going to infect your children somehow? Are your kids so delicate that they can thrive only if they are surrounded by kids you consider to be their academic peers?

Seems like you’re the one perpetuating a culture of low expectations….

Yes. I'm afraid that being in a school where 9.5 out of 10 kids are behind grade level is going to make it impossible for any advanced work. I'm afraid that schools like that have people like you speaking for them, and that people like you have normalized violence , social promotion and meaningless diplomas, and that voices demanding excellence are drowned out by hollow accusations of racism. Mostly I feel sorry for those high schools because people like you are responsible for their decline and the failure to educate another generation of black DC kids. I've got money, mobility and options. Plus, my kids are white so they don't have to work harder and be twice as good to get a fair shot. My kids will graduate from high schools with diplomas that are meaningful to well regarded colleges. It is beyond me why you are more focused on demonizing people who want those schools to improve than you are schools that are by every measurable and objective metric, failing badly.

NP: You don't want them to improve though. You want to keep focusing on the bad.

That's a false choice and an excuse; the two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. They are failing...FULL STOP. The data tells us this. We do the kids and teachers and families no service by pretending otherwise. Your response is a common deflection when faced with facts you don't like. Nothing that is perpetually failing can improve without first evaluating and then identifying weaknesses in the current condition. You are unwilling to do the work. You (like the poster before) prefer to attack the messenger and than to do the actual work. I want the schools to improve. I fear they won't as long as people like you play your games.

I do the work in a Title 1 Eotr every day. The school's not failing. The school has students that are starting from further behind so measuring via proficiency is a ridiculous standard that we won't ever meet. However, they have made growth at a much greater rate than students that are considered "successful". I'm incredibly proud of my colleagues, supported by strong admin, and surrounded by amazing children who improve every day.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is wrong. As of my latest data point, 2/3 of Hardy students choosing between JR and MHS choose MHS.

All "lottery seats" were matched with students attending Deal and Oyster. So the student body will be Hardy/Deal/Oyster almost exclusively.

. Really? Same old story, Capitol Hill gets the short end of the stick on DC public high schools.

Capitol Hill deserves better by-right HSs. But the idea that Macarthur would be part of the CH solution is absurd.

They’ve got great facilities.

Oh wait, you meant fewer poors.

It isn't poor people I object to. It's 93% of kids behind grade level and a culture of low expectations perpetuated by people like you who refuse to demand more. I don't want my kid in classes with kids behind grade level. I don't want my kid in a school with kids that cannot behave. I don't want my kids in schools where people like you think demanding academic excellence is "racist".

By all means, continue to win your little faux equity battle while kids with options whom you resent find alternatives and POC without options are failed for yet another generation. That'll teach me!

Are you afraid the kids behind grade level are going to infect your children somehow? Are your kids so delicate that they can thrive only if they are surrounded by kids you consider to be their academic peers?

Seems like you’re the one perpetuating a culture of low expectations….

Yes. I'm afraid that being in a school where 9.5 out of 10 kids are behind grade level is going to make it impossible for any advanced work. I'm afraid that schools like that have people like you speaking for them, and that people like you have normalized violence , social promotion and meaningless diplomas, and that voices demanding excellence are drowned out by hollow accusations of racism. Mostly I feel sorry for those high schools because people like you are responsible for their decline and the failure to educate another generation of black DC kids. I've got money, mobility and options. Plus, my kids are white so they don't have to work harder and be twice as good to get a fair shot. My kids will graduate from high schools with diplomas that are meaningful to well regarded colleges. It is beyond me why you are more focused on demonizing people who want those schools to improve than you are schools that are by every measurable and objective metric, failing badly.

NP: You don't want them to improve though. You want to keep focusing on the bad.

That's a false choice and an excuse; the two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. They are failing...FULL STOP. The data tells us this. We do the kids and teachers and families no service by pretending otherwise. Your response is a common deflection when faced with facts you don't like. Nothing that is perpetually failing can improve without first evaluating and then identifying weaknesses in the current condition. You are unwilling to do the work. You (like the poster before) prefer to attack the messenger and than to do the actual work. I want the schools to improve. I fear they won't as long as people like you play your games.

I do the work in a Title 1 Eotr every day. The school's not failing. The school has students that are starting from further behind so measuring via proficiency is a ridiculous standard that we won't ever meet. However, they have made growth at a much greater rate than students that are considered "successful". I'm incredibly proud of my colleagues, supported by strong admin, and surrounded by amazing children who improve every day.

Congratulations and thank you! It sounds like you are doing excellent work.

At the same time, your school does not sound like the best school for students starting out ahead of grade level. Forgive me for being presumptuous, but I expect they would not receive a proportionate share of your and your colleagues' time and attention, given the urgent needs you face.

The problem is not the people declining to send their grade level kids to below-grade-level schools.

The problem is so many kids starting out behind. This is what needs to get addressed, and school is not the right savior -- the redress has to start earlier.

The expansion of PK3 and PK4 have been great. But more needs to be done by the city for struggling families before their kids reach PK.

The situation is frustrating, but criticizing parents for seeking the best education for their individual kids does nothing to solve the ptoblem of kids showing up behind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is wrong. As of my latest data point, 2/3 of Hardy students choosing between JR and MHS choose MHS.

All "lottery seats" were matched with students attending Deal and Oyster. So the student body will be Hardy/Deal/Oyster almost exclusively.

. Really? Same old story, Capitol Hill gets the short end of the stick on DC public high schools.

Capitol Hill deserves better by-right HSs. But the idea that Macarthur would be part of the CH solution is absurd.

They’ve got great facilities.

Oh wait, you meant fewer poors.

It isn't poor people I object to. It's 93% of kids behind grade level and a culture of low expectations perpetuated by people like you who refuse to demand more. I don't want my kid in classes with kids behind grade level. I don't want my kid in a school with kids that cannot behave. I don't want my kids in schools where people like you think demanding academic excellence is "racist".

By all means, continue to win your little faux equity battle while kids with options whom you resent find alternatives and POC without options are failed for yet another generation. That'll teach me!

Are you afraid the kids behind grade level are going to infect your children somehow? Are your kids so delicate that they can thrive only if they are surrounded by kids you consider to be their academic peers?

Seems like you’re the one perpetuating a culture of low expectations….

Yes. I'm afraid that being in a school where 9.5 out of 10 kids are behind grade level is going to make it impossible for any advanced work. I'm afraid that schools like that have people like you speaking for them, and that people like you have normalized violence , social promotion and meaningless diplomas, and that voices demanding excellence are drowned out by hollow accusations of racism. Mostly I feel sorry for those high schools because people like you are responsible for their decline and the failure to educate another generation of black DC kids. I've got money, mobility and options. Plus, my kids are white so they don't have to work harder and be twice as good to get a fair shot. My kids will graduate from high schools with diplomas that are meaningful to well regarded colleges. It is beyond me why you are more focused on demonizing people who want those schools to improve than you are schools that are by every measurable and objective metric, failing badly.

NP: You don't want them to improve though. You want to keep focusing on the bad.

That's a false choice and an excuse; the two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. They are failing...FULL STOP. The data tells us this. We do the kids and teachers and families no service by pretending otherwise. Your response is a common deflection when faced with facts you don't like. Nothing that is perpetually failing can improve without first evaluating and then identifying weaknesses in the current condition. You are unwilling to do the work. You (like the poster before) prefer to attack the messenger and than to do the actual work. I want the schools to improve. I fear they won't as long as people like you play your games.

I do the work in a Title 1 Eotr every day. The school's not failing. The school has students that are starting from further behind so measuring via proficiency is a ridiculous standard that we won't ever meet. However, they have made growth at a much greater rate than students that are considered "successful". I'm incredibly proud of my colleagues, supported by strong admin, and surrounded by amazing children who improve every day.

The thread is about MHS. The thread is about HS. You sound like an ES school teacher. That's lovely for you. But that is light years away from HS. I would also note that your life is made harder by the liberal parade of "reformers" who think having illiterate kids in HS seats who are grade levels behind helps anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, that is wrong. As of my latest data point, 2/3 of Hardy students choosing between JR and MHS choose MHS.

All "lottery seats" were matched with students attending Deal and Oyster. So the student body will be Hardy/Deal/Oyster almost exclusively.

. Really? Same old story, Capitol Hill gets the short end of the stick on DC public high schools.

Capitol Hill deserves better by-right HSs. But the idea that Macarthur would be part of the CH solution is absurd.

They’ve got great facilities.

Oh wait, you meant fewer poors.

It isn't poor people I object to. It's 93% of kids behind grade level and a culture of low expectations perpetuated by people like you who refuse to demand more. I don't want my kid in classes with kids behind grade level. I don't want my kid in a school with kids that cannot behave. I don't want my kids in schools where people like you think demanding academic excellence is "racist".

By all means, continue to win your little faux equity battle while kids with options whom you resent find alternatives and POC without options are failed for yet another generation. That'll teach me!

Are you afraid the kids behind grade level are going to infect your children somehow? Are your kids so delicate that they can thrive only if they are surrounded by kids you consider to be their academic peers?

Seems like you’re the one perpetuating a culture of low expectations….

HS teacher here. You have no idea what you are talking about so please just stop.

[Anonymous]

stats show hardy as 62% inboundary, dont have breakdown for 8th grade......is it fair to assume 50% of 9th grade at MHS will be OOB (including kids from oyster & deal who are OOB)?

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Anonymous wrote:stats show hardy as 62% inboundary, dont have breakdown for 8th grade......is it fair to assume 50% of 9th grade at MHS will be OOB (including kids from oyster & deal who are OOB)?

Why do you ask?

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Anonymous wrote:stats show hardy as 62% inboundary, dont have breakdown for 8th grade......is it fair to assume 50% of 9th grade at MHS will be OOB (including kids from oyster & deal who are OOB)?

Yes, that's reasonable. Possibly higher.

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Anonymous wrote:JR is fine but crowded. Capitol Hill just needs to attend its in bound schools en masse. I know that is not at all an answer if your child is approaching high school.

Correction - JR is not fine. It is a hot mess. Just because it is more appealing than most other DCPS high schools does not mean it is fine.

And frankly I have a hard time believing that the MacArthur principal is a knight in shining armor like many parents are desperately trying to imagine

THIS!! JR is NOT fine. DCUM always makes such a big deal about UMC demographics, but by that measure, JR is shockingly bad. Less than 10 students scored a 4 or 5 on the math PARCC? And I know someone will say kids skip the test, but is that true of *all* the UMC kids who DCUM assumes would be scoring a 4 or 5?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JR is fine but crowded. Capitol Hill just needs to attend its in bound schools en masse. I know that is not at all an answer if your child is approaching high school.

Correction - JR is not fine. It is a hot mess. Just because it is more appealing than most other DCPS high schools does not mean it is fine.

And frankly I have a hard time believing that the MacArthur principal is a knight in shining armor like many parents are desperately trying to imagine

THIS!! JR is NOT fine. DCUM always makes such a big deal about UMC demographics, but by that measure, JR is shockingly bad. Less than 10 students scored a 4 or 5 on the math PARCC? And I know someone will say kids skip the test, but is that true of *all* the UMC kids who DCUM assumes would be scoring a 4 or 5?

+1. Even Deal is bad. Level 4 on the PARCC is merely "meets expectations" of the grade level. Only 60% was able to get a 4 or 5?