If you were to move to a new state for in-state options…

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Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Source? PA, for example, has pretty high taxes (especially property taxes in most jurisdictions) and their true state universities are terrible & expensive to attend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Really? I'd probably put Texas right in line behind California with Virginia next. Neither are particularly high Tax. Connecticut and Massachusetts are very high tax and have relatively terrible offerings. The same goes for NJ and Illinois


TX does have a ton of state schools. Most only know and care about UT and A&M, MAYBE TX Tech?

That said, I wouldn't go anywhere near TX at this point and can't believe I was almost talked into moving there more than a decade ago. Their state legislature is BSC.

IMO, CA has way more decent in state options than VA or TX. Obviously, the larger states will have more options.

CA has 9 UCs, 23 CSUs, and at least half of those CSUs are pretty decent in state options. They have good ROI. So, you have 20 decent to great in state options.


I don't disagree. I had investigated several CSU campuses while helping my daughter research options. San Jose State seemed like a really nice place to go to school. San Diego State (in the National Championship game for basketball this year!) and Long Beach State are popular from what I can tell as well. That said, didn't the Cal States just recently announce no one from OOS would be considered?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Really? I'd probably put Texas right in line behind California with Virginia next. Neither are particularly high Tax. Connecticut and Massachusetts are very high tax and have relatively terrible offerings. The same goes for NJ and Illinois


I don't agree with the tax thing, but your calls on public higher seems wacky. University of Illinois U-C is a fantastic school with great outcomes and UIUC has been rapidly improving--so two good public schools in-state. I wouldn't put TX anywhere near CA--UT Austin is good sure but below UVA, and no other TX public school breaks the top 50 public schools for such a huge state--GMU is better than UT Dallas! VA is far better than Texas--you've got UVA, WM and VT and then a suite of solid schools beneath. The New England states are very small and have top private schools so they didn't historically invest in them as much.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Lol no. Those insane taxes in CT, NJ, IL, MA etc are going to toward pension liabilities. For pensions that never should’ve existed in the first place. Oh, and those states bleed even their instate residents dry when it comes to paying instate tuition.


Maybe I’m a masochist, but I don’t think MA has horrible taxes? I believe the tax burden is middle of the pack. I agree, in state options are not great.
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NY provides free tuition for under $120k income. NJ & DE recently instituted something similar at their flagships. CA offers significant FA.


DE basically has one actual flagship

And an HBCU


It’s year-round population is only 1M


I'm aware - I lived there in my teens. I didn't attend UD, but I spent a lot of time there during breaks with my friends who were Blue Hens.

I was just saying that there are not many state schools in DE. That's it. I am aware of how small the state is - it isn't known as Small Wonder for nothing.
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Anonymous wrote:California.


+1. Without any hesitation.
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Anonymous wrote:Applying to top state flagships in TX, CA, NC, FL, MI as a high school student living in a desirable urban or suburban area in that respective state is no easier than, say, applying to UVA from Arlington or McLean. Or applying to UMD out of Bethesda.


um, getting into UNC much easier in state than UVA in state Like 43.1 vs. 26.3



true
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You want to game the system move to North Dakota or Wyoming


OK but then your grad school plans go to hell
Anonymous
I briefly looked at Wyoming for my daughter because it had a program for her that is only available in a few schools in the country and Wyoming’s curriculum was the best of the bunch.

Of course, WY is an incredibly conservative state and it is cold. The university is a little over an hour drive to the CO border, but it just wasn’t worth it in the end
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Really? I'd probably put Texas right in line behind California with Virginia next. Neither are particularly high Tax. Connecticut and Massachusetts are very high tax and have relatively terrible offerings. The same goes for NJ and Illinois


TX does have a ton of state schools. Most only know and care about UT and A&M, MAYBE TX Tech?

That said, I wouldn't go anywhere near TX at this point and can't believe I was almost talked into moving there more than a decade ago. Their state legislature is BSC.

IMO, CA has way more decent in state options than VA or TX. Obviously, the larger states will have more options.

CA has 9 UCs, 23 CSUs, and at least half of those CSUs are pretty decent in state options. They have good ROI. So, you have 20 decent to great in state options.


I don't disagree. I had investigated several CSU campuses while helping my daughter research options. San Jose State seemed like a really nice place to go to school. San Diego State (in the National Championship game for basketball this year!) and Long Beach State are popular from what I can tell as well. That said, didn't the Cal States just recently announce no one from OOS would be considered?


But, speaking as a Californian, you really don't want your kid going to a Cal STate. You want them to go to a U.C. school and those are getting increasingly difficult to get into. The Cal States won't get you into a good grad school
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Really? I'd probably put Texas right in line behind California with Virginia next. Neither are particularly high Tax. Connecticut and Massachusetts are very high tax and have relatively terrible offerings. The same goes for NJ and Illinois


TX does have a ton of state schools. Most only know and care about UT and A&M, MAYBE TX Tech?

That said, I wouldn't go anywhere near TX at this point and can't believe I was almost talked into moving there more than a decade ago. Their state legislature is BSC.

IMO, CA has way more decent in state options than VA or TX. Obviously, the larger states will have more options.

CA has 9 UCs, 23 CSUs, and at least half of those CSUs are pretty decent in state options. They have good ROI. So, you have 20 decent to great in state options.


California is more than 6 times the size of Virginia and Virginia has at least 4 decent to great opinions, so proportionally CA is no different than VA



But VA doesn't have the second tier (between UC and Community College level) of Cal State schools. So the systems aren't comparable at all. Very few Virginia parents would want their kids to go to Cal Sate schools. That's where the kids who couldn't get into good four year schools go
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You want to game the system move to North Dakota or Wyoming


OK but then your grad school plans go to hell


?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Lol no. Those insane taxes in CT, NJ, IL, MA etc are going to toward pension liabilities. For pensions that never should’ve existed in the first place. Oh, and those states bleed even their instate residents dry when it comes to paying instate tuition.


Oh, then they go to the police?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Florida or Georgia. Go somewhere that has free instates. I'm from Florida and Bright Futures covered nearly all of my tuition.


This thank god for republican governors


Unless you’re a woman or a student of course…


Or gay
Anonymous
There are only so many seats available in CA.

I mean, you can always look out of state, like so many others do.

I highly doubt you have no shot at grad school from a Cal State campus. Doesn’t Fullerton feed Disney and San Jose feed a lot of the local tech companies?
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