If you were to move to a new state for in-state options…

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Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.
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Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Really? I'd probably put Texas right in line behind California with Virginia next. Neither are particularly high Tax. Connecticut and Massachusetts are very high tax and have relatively terrible offerings. The same goes for NJ and Illinois
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Anonymous wrote:Florida or Georgia. Go somewhere that has free instates. I'm from Florida and Bright Futures covered nearly all of my tuition.


This thank god for republican governors


Unless you’re a woman or a student of course…


They don't get free tuition? Why is it that blue and purple states hate education?


States like FL and GA offered free tuition to improve attendance and increase the quality of their colleges. Blue states have plenty of qualified students trying to get into their colleges so they don’t have to do that.


UGA and GT have problems with attendance, who knew. Meanwhile,

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/13/business/economy/college-towns-economy.html


Hopefully, that article includes how the PA state schools in those small towns charge $10k+/year tuition. Same tuition as instate UMD, except you’d be going to California University of Pennsylvania. How’s that for value? The state is going to have to do something about this issue soon because it’s bleeding residents who go OOS to cheaper & better schools. Penn State & Pitt charging $20k/year tuition & offering zero financial aid isn’t great either in a state where the median HHI is around $45k/year in most of it. Neither school seems to care about attracting or serving instate students, though.

-PA native


several of those campuses just merged under one umbrella - PennWest, right? That included California U IIRC.

My daughter spent a few days last summer at Slippery Rock and she actually really liked it. The surrounding area is not the best, but it isn't far from Pittsburgh. The tuition there is incredibly reasonable

A couple of the small state campuses in Vermont are merging to become Vermont State, similar to PennWest.
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Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Really? I'd probably put Texas right in line behind California with Virginia next. Neither are particularly high Tax. Connecticut and Massachusetts are very high tax and have relatively terrible offerings. The same goes for NJ and Illinois


TX does have a ton of state schools. Most only know and care about UT and A&M, MAYBE TX Tech?

That said, I wouldn't go anywhere near TX at this point and can't believe I was almost talked into moving there more than a decade ago. Their state legislature is BSC.
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Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Really? I'd probably put Texas right in line behind California with Virginia next. Neither are particularly high Tax. Connecticut and Massachusetts are very high tax and have relatively terrible offerings. The same goes for NJ and Illinois


+100

PA & the Northeast states have terrible instate offerings in comparison to tuition prices.
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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread. WTF.


+1. Uproot your child and family and move cross country to game the college system. Proof positive people on this site have lost their minds.

Some folks aren't that rooted. We moved a ton while I was growing up. I happened to be in NH when I graduated HS and UNH was a terrible and expensive option. A few years later my sister had the option of Arizona schools, which were far less expensive. A few years after that my other sister had the option of NC school, which were great and cheap. I'm still abit jealous of the NC options over NH.
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Anonymous wrote:Florida or Georgia. Go somewhere that has free instates. I'm from Florida and Bright Futures covered nearly all of my tuition.


This thank god for republican governors


Unless you’re a woman or a student of course…


They don't get free tuition? Why is it that blue and purple states hate education?


States like FL and GA offered free tuition to improve attendance and increase the quality of their colleges. Blue states have plenty of qualified students trying to get into their colleges so they don’t have to do that.


UGA and GT have problems with attendance, who knew. Meanwhile,

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/13/business/economy/college-towns-economy.html


Hopefully, that article includes how the PA state schools in those small towns charge $10k+/year tuition. Same tuition as instate UMD, except you’d be going to California University of Pennsylvania. How’s that for value? The state is going to have to do something about this issue soon because it’s bleeding residents who go OOS to cheaper & better schools. Penn State & Pitt charging $20k/year tuition & offering zero financial aid isn’t great either in a state where the median HHI is around $45k/year in most of it. Neither school seems to care about attracting or serving instate students, though.

-PA native


several of those campuses just merged under one umbrella - PennWest, right? That included California U IIRC.

A couple of the small state campuses in Vermont are merging to become Vermont State, similar to PennWest.


following up:

PennWest: https://www.pennwest.edu/
Vermont State: https://vermontstate.edu/
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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread. WTF.


+1. Uproot your child and family and move cross country to game the college system. Proof positive people on this site have lost their minds.


But they have lost their minds. Look around. People plan for UVA since birth. It is insane.
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Anonymous wrote:Florida or Georgia. Go somewhere that has free instates. I'm from Florida and Bright Futures covered nearly all of my tuition.


This thank god for republican governors


Unless you’re a woman or a student of course…


They don't get free tuition? Why is it that blue and purple states hate education?


States like FL and GA offered free tuition to improve attendance and increase the quality of their colleges. Blue states have plenty of qualified students trying to get into their colleges so they don’t have to do that.


UGA and GT have problems with attendance, who knew. Meanwhile,

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/13/business/economy/college-towns-economy.html


Hopefully, that article includes how the PA state schools in those small towns charge $10k+/year tuition. Same tuition as instate UMD, except you’d be going to California University of Pennsylvania. How’s that for value? The state is going to have to do something about this issue soon because it’s bleeding residents who go OOS to cheaper & better schools. Penn State & Pitt charging $20k/year tuition & offering zero financial aid isn’t great either in a state where the median HHI is around $45k/year in most of it. Neither school seems to care about attracting or serving instate students, though.

-PA native


several of those campuses just merged under one umbrella - PennWest, right? That included California U IIRC.

My daughter spent a few days last summer at Slippery Rock and she actually really liked it. The surrounding area is not the best, but it isn't far from Pittsburgh. The tuition there is incredibly reasonable

A couple of the small state campuses in Vermont are merging to become Vermont State, similar to PennWest.


The analogues of Pitt & Penn State (in terms of offerings & reputation) in NC, FL, MD, GA, TX and multiple other states are only $8-10k/year in tuition, half of what those two schools each charge.
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Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Really? I'd probably put Texas right in line behind California with Virginia next. Neither are particularly high Tax. Connecticut and Massachusetts are very high tax and have relatively terrible offerings. The same goes for NJ and Illinois


TX does have a ton of state schools. Most only know and care about UT and A&M, MAYBE TX Tech?

That said, I wouldn't go anywhere near TX at this point and can't believe I was almost talked into moving there more than a decade ago. Their state legislature is BSC.

IMO, CA has way more decent in state options than VA or TX. Obviously, the larger states will have more options.

CA has 9 UCs, 23 CSUs, and at least half of those CSUs are pretty decent in state options. They have good ROI. So, you have 20 decent to great in state options.
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I know someone who moved to Maryland with their parents and still couldn't get in-state tuition because they hadn't lived here long enough. (The school goes by when the driver's license changed to Maryland.)

Make sure you ask the school how long you need to live in the state for in-state tuition. It might be a year or more.
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NY provides free tuition for under $120k income. NJ & DE recently instituted something similar at their flagships. CA offers significant FA.


DE basically has one actual flagship

And an HBCU
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NY provides free tuition for under $120k income. NJ & DE recently instituted something similar at their flagships. CA offers significant FA.


DE basically has one actual flagship

And an HBCU


It’s year-round population is only 1M
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Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Really? I'd probably put Texas right in line behind California with Virginia next. Neither are particularly high Tax. Connecticut and Massachusetts are very high tax and have relatively terrible offerings. The same goes for NJ and Illinois


TX does have a ton of state schools. Most only know and care about UT and A&M, MAYBE TX Tech?

That said, I wouldn't go anywhere near TX at this point and can't believe I was almost talked into moving there more than a decade ago. Their state legislature is BSC.

IMO, CA has way more decent in state options than VA or TX. Obviously, the larger states will have more options.

CA has 9 UCs, 23 CSUs, and at least half of those CSUs are pretty decent in state options. They have good ROI. So, you have 20 decent to great in state options.


California is more than 6 times the size of Virginia and Virginia has at least 4 decent to great opinions, so proportionally CA is no different than VA
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Anonymous wrote:California.

+1 best in state options. Tons of schools to choose from, and it's relatively inexpensive, though the col is expensive.

Typically, a state with *a lot* of really great in state options will have higher taxes. That's how the states pay for these great in state options.


Lol no. Those insane taxes in CT, NJ, IL, MA etc are going to toward pension liabilities. For pensions that never should’ve existed in the first place. Oh, and those states bleed even their instate residents dry when it comes to paying instate tuition.
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