Thoughts on Will Jawando

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Anonymous wrote:I think he’d be great but the crazy right wings will say he is anti-cop l, closed schools, CRT… so I’m not sure he has a chance.

Not a crazy right wing person here. I am sick of his anti-police stance. His current legislation is built off his idea that officers are inherently evil and racist, which I simply can’t get behind. I actually know officers, so I can’t buy his argument.

I won’t vote for him.

He’s not anti police, you’re off your rocker.

My husband, dad and BIL are officers but they all have advanced degrees and can understand the nuances of crying like a baby because you can’t just freely beat people and ensuring accountability.

You can’t just beat people and have racist policies.

Since your family members are all officers, I’m sure you are aware that officers aren’t freely beating people, nor are they running from accountability. There isn’t a single statistic coming out of MCPD that would *remotely* support your statement. Not at all. I challenge you to find one statistic out of MCPD that shows this. Just one. I’m fairly certain you won’t be able to.

This is why I won’t vote for Jawando. He promotes fallacies like the one above. His current Step Act is built off the idea that fewer police stops will make people safer because it means fewer interactions with the police. I have yet to see anything that supports this allegation. All I see is an effort that will make everybody in Montgomery County less safe.

Since they are police yes cops best people freely and good cops were afraid to report it.

Coos having sticky notes tfat say narc on their desks for being honest.

Coos refusing to give backup to cops who report bad cops.

Eyewitness accounts of racism all over the police force. Of course there is.

Listen Polly Anna, your family is not telling you the truth because it would make you disrespect them.

Like I said, people like you who have been brainwashed won’t vote for him and bad cops will perpetuate the lies.

Your family who are cops, how many times have they reported a bad cop? Because if the answer is 0 guess what, they are not good ones.

Look at stats on moco in the 80’s going forward. Even with the crime this year it’s historically low… it’s like complaining about 5% mortgage rates.

This kind of stuff might have happened 20 years ago, or in different departments, but it's not really feasible now. Most cops don't have desks, for one. And the CAD both documents and remedies any back-up failures.

And violent crime is up, and has been up since covid. but it hurts lower-income Black males the most. So perhaps it's just mostly invisible to everyone else.

Cop jargon.

Not a cop. That's what the data say. Anyone who actually cares about closing racial disparities needs to start there, or else they are just full of performative bull ****.

Referring to people as "Black males" (or "white females", or whatever) is cop jargon.

What would you prefer they be called?

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Anonymous wrote:I think he’d be great but the crazy right wings will say he is anti-cop l, closed schools, CRT… so I’m not sure he has a chance.

Not a crazy right wing person here. I am sick of his anti-police stance. His current legislation is built off his idea that officers are inherently evil and racist, which I simply can’t get behind. I actually know officers, so I can’t buy his argument.

I won’t vote for him.

He’s not anti police, you’re off your rocker.

My husband, dad and BIL are officers but they all have advanced degrees and can understand the nuances of crying like a baby because you can’t just freely beat people and ensuring accountability.

You can’t just beat people and have racist policies.

Since your family members are all officers, I’m sure you are aware that officers aren’t freely beating people, nor are they running from accountability. There isn’t a single statistic coming out of MCPD that would *remotely* support your statement. Not at all. I challenge you to find one statistic out of MCPD that shows this. Just one. I’m fairly certain you won’t be able to.

This is why I won’t vote for Jawando. He promotes fallacies like the one above. His current Step Act is built off the idea that fewer police stops will make people safer because it means fewer interactions with the police. I have yet to see anything that supports this allegation. All I see is an effort that will make everybody in Montgomery County less safe.

Since they are police yes cops best people freely and good cops were afraid to report it.

Coos having sticky notes tfat say narc on their desks for being honest.

Coos refusing to give backup to cops who report bad cops.

Eyewitness accounts of racism all over the police force. Of course there is.

Listen Polly Anna, your family is not telling you the truth because it would make you disrespect them.

Like I said, people like you who have been brainwashed won’t vote for him and bad cops will perpetuate the lies.

Your family who are cops, how many times have they reported a bad cop? Because if the answer is 0 guess what, they are not good ones.

Look at stats on moco in the 80’s going forward. Even with the crime this year it’s historically low… it’s like complaining about 5% mortgage rates.

This kind of stuff might have happened 20 years ago, or in different departments, but it's not really feasible now. Most cops don't have desks, for one. And the CAD both documents and remedies any back-up failures.

And violent crime is up, and has been up since covid. but it hurts lower-income Black males the most. So perhaps it's just mostly invisible to everyone else.

Cop jargon.

Not a cop. That's what the data say. Anyone who actually cares about closing racial disparities needs to start there, or else they are just full of performative bull ****.

Referring to people as "Black males" (or "white females", or whatever) is cop jargon.

Criminologists too. Anyone who works with data. I was trying to be gentle because almost half the victims are under 21. About 35% are under 18. They are babies. They are someone’s heart, their life, and now they are gone.

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Anonymous wrote:I think he’d be great but the crazy right wings will say he is anti-cop l, closed schools, CRT… so I’m not sure he has a chance.

Not a crazy right wing person here. I am sick of his anti-police stance. His current legislation is built off his idea that officers are inherently evil and racist, which I simply can’t get behind. I actually know officers, so I can’t buy his argument.

I won’t vote for him.

He’s not anti police, you’re off your rocker.

My husband, dad and BIL are officers but they all have advanced degrees and can understand the nuances of crying like a baby because you can’t just freely beat people and ensuring accountability.

You can’t just beat people and have racist policies.

Since your family members are all officers, I’m sure you are aware that officers aren’t freely beating people, nor are they running from accountability. There isn’t a single statistic coming out of MCPD that would *remotely* support your statement. Not at all. I challenge you to find one statistic out of MCPD that shows this. Just one. I’m fairly certain you won’t be able to.

This is why I won’t vote for Jawando. He promotes fallacies like the one above. His current Step Act is built off the idea that fewer police stops will make people safer because it means fewer interactions with the police. I have yet to see anything that supports this allegation. All I see is an effort that will make everybody in Montgomery County less safe.

Since they are police yes cops best people freely and good cops were afraid to report it.

Coos having sticky notes tfat say narc on their desks for being honest.

Coos refusing to give backup to cops who report bad cops.

Eyewitness accounts of racism all over the police force. Of course there is.

Listen Polly Anna, your family is not telling you the truth because it would make you disrespect them.

Like I said, people like you who have been brainwashed won’t vote for him and bad cops will perpetuate the lies.

Your family who are cops, how many times have they reported a bad cop? Because if the answer is 0 guess what, they are not good ones.

Look at stats on moco in the 80’s going forward. Even with the crime this year it’s historically low… it’s like complaining about 5% mortgage rates.

This kind of stuff might have happened 20 years ago, or in different departments, but it's not really feasible now. Most cops don't have desks, for one. And the CAD both documents and remedies any back-up failures.

And violent crime is up, and has been up since covid. but it hurts lower-income Black males the most. So perhaps it's just mostly invisible to everyone else.

Cop jargon.

Not a cop. That's what the data say. Anyone who actually cares about closing racial disparities needs to start there, or else they are just full of performative bull ****.

Referring to people as "Black males" (or "white females", or whatever) is cop jargon.

What would you prefer they be called?

How about Black men, or Black boys, depending on age?

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Anonymous wrote:I think he’d be great but the crazy right wings will say he is anti-cop l, closed schools, CRT… so I’m not sure he has a chance.

Not a crazy right wing person here. I am sick of his anti-police stance. His current legislation is built off his idea that officers are inherently evil and racist, which I simply can’t get behind. I actually know officers, so I can’t buy his argument.

I won’t vote for him.

He’s not anti police, you’re off your rocker.

My husband, dad and BIL are officers but they all have advanced degrees and can understand the nuances of crying like a baby because you can’t just freely beat people and ensuring accountability.

You can’t just beat people and have racist policies.

Since your family members are all officers, I’m sure you are aware that officers aren’t freely beating people, nor are they running from accountability. There isn’t a single statistic coming out of MCPD that would *remotely* support your statement. Not at all. I challenge you to find one statistic out of MCPD that shows this. Just one. I’m fairly certain you won’t be able to.

This is why I won’t vote for Jawando. He promotes fallacies like the one above. His current Step Act is built off the idea that fewer police stops will make people safer because it means fewer interactions with the police. I have yet to see anything that supports this allegation. All I see is an effort that will make everybody in Montgomery County less safe.

Since they are police yes cops best people freely and good cops were afraid to report it.

Coos having sticky notes tfat say narc on their desks for being honest.

Coos refusing to give backup to cops who report bad cops.

Eyewitness accounts of racism all over the police force. Of course there is.

Listen Polly Anna, your family is not telling you the truth because it would make you disrespect them.

Like I said, people like you who have been brainwashed won’t vote for him and bad cops will perpetuate the lies.

Your family who are cops, how many times have they reported a bad cop? Because if the answer is 0 guess what, they are not good ones.

Look at stats on moco in the 80’s going forward. Even with the crime this year it’s historically low… it’s like complaining about 5% mortgage rates.

This kind of stuff might have happened 20 years ago, or in different departments, but it's not really feasible now. Most cops don't have desks, for one. And the CAD both documents and remedies any back-up failures.

And violent crime is up, and has been up since covid. but it hurts lower-income Black males the most. So perhaps it's just mostly invisible to everyone else.

Cop jargon.

Not a cop. That's what the data say. Anyone who actually cares about closing racial disparities needs to start there, or else they are just full of performative bull ****.

Referring to people as "Black males" (or "white females", or whatever) is cop jargon.

What would you prefer they be called?

How about Black men, or Black boys, depending on age?

So you want them to guess the age based on how they present? I can’t imagine how that would go.
And I fail to see the difference between black male and black man.

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Anonymous wrote:I think he’d be great but the crazy right wings will say he is anti-cop l, closed schools, CRT… so I’m not sure he has a chance.

Not a crazy right wing person here. I am sick of his anti-police stance. His current legislation is built off his idea that officers are inherently evil and racist, which I simply can’t get behind. I actually know officers, so I can’t buy his argument.

I won’t vote for him.

He’s not anti police, you’re off your rocker.

My husband, dad and BIL are officers but they all have advanced degrees and can understand the nuances of crying like a baby because you can’t just freely beat people and ensuring accountability.

You can’t just beat people and have racist policies.

Since your family members are all officers, I’m sure you are aware that officers aren’t freely beating people, nor are they running from accountability. There isn’t a single statistic coming out of MCPD that would *remotely* support your statement. Not at all. I challenge you to find one statistic out of MCPD that shows this. Just one. I’m fairly certain you won’t be able to.

This is why I won’t vote for Jawando. He promotes fallacies like the one above. His current Step Act is built off the idea that fewer police stops will make people safer because it means fewer interactions with the police. I have yet to see anything that supports this allegation. All I see is an effort that will make everybody in Montgomery County less safe.

Since they are police yes cops best people freely and good cops were afraid to report it.

Coos having sticky notes tfat say narc on their desks for being honest.

Coos refusing to give backup to cops who report bad cops.

Eyewitness accounts of racism all over the police force. Of course there is.

Listen Polly Anna, your family is not telling you the truth because it would make you disrespect them.

Like I said, people like you who have been brainwashed won’t vote for him and bad cops will perpetuate the lies.

Your family who are cops, how many times have they reported a bad cop? Because if the answer is 0 guess what, they are not good ones.

Look at stats on moco in the 80’s going forward. Even with the crime this year it’s historically low… it’s like complaining about 5% mortgage rates.

This kind of stuff might have happened 20 years ago, or in different departments, but it's not really feasible now. Most cops don't have desks, for one. And the CAD both documents and remedies any back-up failures.

And violent crime is up, and has been up since covid. but it hurts lower-income Black males the most. So perhaps it's just mostly invisible to everyone else.

Cop jargon.

Not a cop. That's what the data say. Anyone who actually cares about closing racial disparities needs to start there, or else they are just full of performative bull ****.

Referring to people as "Black males" (or "white females", or whatever) is cop jargon.

What would you prefer they be called?

How about Black men, or Black boys, depending on age?

So you want them to guess the age based on how they present? I can’t imagine how that would go.
And I fail to see the difference between black male and black man.

"Males" aren't people. Male dog, male sheep male parts of a flower, male end of a plug. "Men" are people.

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Anonymous wrote:I think he’d be great but the crazy right wings will say he is anti-cop l, closed schools, CRT… so I’m not sure he has a chance.

Not a crazy right wing person here. I am sick of his anti-police stance. His current legislation is built off his idea that officers are inherently evil and racist, which I simply can’t get behind. I actually know officers, so I can’t buy his argument.

I won’t vote for him.

He’s not anti police, you’re off your rocker.

My husband, dad and BIL are officers but they all have advanced degrees and can understand the nuances of crying like a baby because you can’t just freely beat people and ensuring accountability.

You can’t just beat people and have racist policies.

Since your family members are all officers, I’m sure you are aware that officers aren’t freely beating people, nor are they running from accountability. There isn’t a single statistic coming out of MCPD that would *remotely* support your statement. Not at all. I challenge you to find one statistic out of MCPD that shows this. Just one. I’m fairly certain you won’t be able to.

This is why I won’t vote for Jawando. He promotes fallacies like the one above. His current Step Act is built off the idea that fewer police stops will make people safer because it means fewer interactions with the police. I have yet to see anything that supports this allegation. All I see is an effort that will make everybody in Montgomery County less safe.

Since they are police yes cops best people freely and good cops were afraid to report it.

Coos having sticky notes tfat say narc on their desks for being honest.

Coos refusing to give backup to cops who report bad cops.

Eyewitness accounts of racism all over the police force. Of course there is.

Listen Polly Anna, your family is not telling you the truth because it would make you disrespect them.

Like I said, people like you who have been brainwashed won’t vote for him and bad cops will perpetuate the lies.

Your family who are cops, how many times have they reported a bad cop? Because if the answer is 0 guess what, they are not good ones.

Look at stats on moco in the 80’s going forward. Even with the crime this year it’s historically low… it’s like complaining about 5% mortgage rates.

This kind of stuff might have happened 20 years ago, or in different departments, but it's not really feasible now. Most cops don't have desks, for one. And the CAD both documents and remedies any back-up failures.

And violent crime is up, and has been up since covid. but it hurts lower-income Black males the most. So perhaps it's just mostly invisible to everyone else.

Cop jargon.

Not a cop. That's what the data say. Anyone who actually cares about closing racial disparities needs to start there, or else they are just full of performative bull ****.

Referring to people as "Black males" (or "white females", or whatever) is cop jargon.

What would you prefer they be called?

How about Black men, or Black boys, depending on age?

So you want them to guess the age based on how they present? I can’t imagine how that would go.
And I fail to see the difference between black male and black man.

"Males" aren't people. Male dog, male sheep male parts of a flower, male end of a plug. "Men" are people.

If this is bad trolling, I commend you for derailing the conversation.

If this is meant in seriousness, please ask for an educational refund.

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Anonymous wrote:I think he’d be great but the crazy right wings will say he is anti-cop l, closed schools, CRT… so I’m not sure he has a chance.

Not a crazy right wing person here. I am sick of his anti-police stance. His current legislation is built off his idea that officers are inherently evil and racist, which I simply can’t get behind. I actually know officers, so I can’t buy his argument.

I won’t vote for him.

He’s not anti police, you’re off your rocker.

My husband, dad and BIL are officers but they all have advanced degrees and can understand the nuances of crying like a baby because you can’t just freely beat people and ensuring accountability.

You can’t just beat people and have racist policies.

Since your family members are all officers, I’m sure you are aware that officers aren’t freely beating people, nor are they running from accountability. There isn’t a single statistic coming out of MCPD that would *remotely* support your statement. Not at all. I challenge you to find one statistic out of MCPD that shows this. Just one. I’m fairly certain you won’t be able to.

This is why I won’t vote for Jawando. He promotes fallacies like the one above. His current Step Act is built off the idea that fewer police stops will make people safer because it means fewer interactions with the police. I have yet to see anything that supports this allegation. All I see is an effort that will make everybody in Montgomery County less safe.

Since they are police yes cops best people freely and good cops were afraid to report it.

Coos having sticky notes tfat say narc on their desks for being honest.

Coos refusing to give backup to cops who report bad cops.

Eyewitness accounts of racism all over the police force. Of course there is.

Listen Polly Anna, your family is not telling you the truth because it would make you disrespect them.

Like I said, people like you who have been brainwashed won’t vote for him and bad cops will perpetuate the lies.

Your family who are cops, how many times have they reported a bad cop? Because if the answer is 0 guess what, they are not good ones.

Look at stats on moco in the 80’s going forward. Even with the crime this year it’s historically low… it’s like complaining about 5% mortgage rates.

This kind of stuff might have happened 20 years ago, or in different departments, but it's not really feasible now. Most cops don't have desks, for one. And the CAD both documents and remedies any back-up failures.

And violent crime is up, and has been up since covid. but it hurts lower-income Black males the most. So perhaps it's just mostly invisible to everyone else.

Cop jargon.

Not a cop. That's what the data say. Anyone who actually cares about closing racial disparities needs to start there, or else they are just full of performative bull ****.

Referring to people as "Black males" (or "white females", or whatever) is cop jargon.

What would you prefer they be called?

How about Black men, or Black boys, depending on age?

So you want them to guess the age based on how they present? I can’t imagine how that would go.
And I fail to see the difference between black male and black man.

"Males" aren't people. Male dog, male sheep male parts of a flower, male end of a plug. "Men" are people.

This is what happens when you let inherently stupid people post on the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way he would win a state Senate seat imo because his position on crime is so extreme and illogical. I think a lot of his tweets and proposed bills would really come back under scrutiny, and he would be under a much larger spotlight. He might be right for his district but he’s not right for the state. Even in terms of his council seat, I think he has gotten by because he is charming and handsome. When I met him, he knocked my socks off with his personality. I’m sure I’m not the only one and I’m sure he wins people over because of his charm but that won’t be enough to win a State.

We can only hope.

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Three of my close family members are police officers including my retired father. They would all admit police departments have problems including inadequate training and a few bad apples. Every single one of them retired the moment they were eligible because of the danger and stress. The thing I have discovered is that everyone wants to defund the police until they are unfortunate enough to need them for something.

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Anonymous wrote:Three of my close family members are police officers including my retired father. They would all admit police departments have problems including inadequate training and a few bad apples. Every single one of them retired the moment they were eligible because of the danger and stress. The thing I have discovered is that everyone wants to defund the police until they are unfortunate enough to need them for something.

The complete "a few bad apples" saying is: a few bad apples spoil the whole barrel.

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Anonymous wrote:Three of my close family members are police officers including my retired father. They would all admit police departments have problems including inadequate training and a few bad apples. Every single one of them retired the moment they were eligible because of the danger and stress. The thing I have discovered is that everyone wants to defund the police until they are unfortunate enough to need them for something.

Defund the police was/is a very unpopular and dumb slogan and only a very small minority of people actually want that. Most people want the police to focus on making the community safer. When they are instead harassing people of color, that not only distracts from keeping the community safe, it undermines it because people who hate the police do not talk to the police.

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Anonymous wrote:Three of my close family members are police officers including my retired father. They would all admit police departments have problems including inadequate training and a few bad apples. Every single one of them retired the moment they were eligible because of the danger and stress. The thing I have discovered is that everyone wants to defund the police until they are unfortunate enough to need them for something.

The complete "a few bad apples" saying is: a few bad apples spoil the whole barrel.

Yet we know that isn’t accurate. There are a few bad doctors. Are all doctors spoiled? There are a few bad teachers. Are all teachers spoiled? There are a few bad humans. Are all humans spoiled?

We don’t throw out an entire group of people based on the worst among them.

Jawando’s legislation (to get this back on track) tends to follow the “all police are bad apples” train of thought. His current legislation, and even the language he used to introduce it, demonstrate that.

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Anonymous wrote:Three of my close family members are police officers including my retired father. They would all admit police departments have problems including inadequate training and a few bad apples. Every single one of them retired the moment they were eligible because of the danger and stress. The thing I have discovered is that everyone wants to defund the police until they are unfortunate enough to need them for something.

The complete "a few bad apples" saying is: a few bad apples spoil the whole barrel.

Yet we know that isn’t accurate. There are a few bad doctors. Are all doctors spoiled? There are a few bad teachers. Are all teachers spoiled? There are a few bad humans. Are all humans spoiled?

We don’t throw out an entire group of people based on the worst among them.

Jawando’s legislation (to get this back on track) tends to follow the “all police are bad apples” train of thought. His current legislation, and even the language he used to introduce it, demonstrate that.

Who is throwing anyone out?

There is a process for taking away a doctor's license when warranted. The process for firing or disciplining a police officer in many places, including Montgomery County, is very difficult and opaque.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way he would win a state Senate seat imo because his position on crime is so extreme and illogical. I think a lot of his tweets and proposed bills would really come back under scrutiny, and he would be under a much larger spotlight. He might be right for his district but he’s not right for the state. Even in terms of his council seat, I think he has gotten by because he is charming and handsome. When I met him, he knocked my socks off with his personality. I’m sure I’m not the only one and I’m sure he wins people over because of his charm but that won’t be enough to win a State.

We can only hope.

Ironically, he would likely have less of an impact on our lives if he was a Senator instead of a county councilman.

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Anonymous wrote:Three of my close family members are police officers including my retired father. They would all admit police departments have problems including inadequate training and a few bad apples. Every single one of them retired the moment they were eligible because of the danger and stress. The thing I have discovered is that everyone wants to defund the police until they are unfortunate enough to need them for something.

The complete "a few bad apples" saying is: a few bad apples spoil the whole barrel.

Yet we know that isn’t accurate. There are a few bad doctors. Are all doctors spoiled? There are a few bad teachers. Are all teachers spoiled? There are a few bad humans. Are all humans spoiled?

We don’t throw out an entire group of people based on the worst among them.

Jawando’s legislation (to get this back on track) tends to follow the “all police are bad apples” train of thought. His current legislation, and even the language he used to introduce it, demonstrate that.

We do not know that at all. A few bad apples actually do spoil the whole barrel. If you think the bad police officers don't spoil all police officers, then you shouldn't use the phrase "a few bad apples", which suggests that the bad police officers DO spoil all police officers.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/one-bad-apple-spoil-the-barrel-metaphor-phrase

For what it's worth, I don't think I've ever heard anybody (mis)use the phrase "a few bad apples" to describe doctors or teachers or humans.