Predictions for what happens when the SC bans affirmative action?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cant they just use other proxies for race, like zip code, being bilingual, etc?

No because schools want full-pay URMs.

[Anonymous]

I support AA for ADOS.

For rich immigrants of any color, no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cant they just use other proxies for race, like zip code, being bilingual, etc?

They’d have to preference Spanish for that to work, and they’d need a response for “why Spanish” that doesn’t land them in court again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I support AA for ADOS.

For rich immigrants of any color, no.

I agree too - I believe in affirmative action for native Americans (who are registered with their tribe) or someone who is is like at least 1/4-1/3 ADOS. So someone like Kamala Harris wouldn't qualify. I'm not sure why Latinos receive the benefit, some look whiter than Italians and there are other ethnicities who have been just as discriminated in the past (ie. Japanese).

[Anonymous]

The essay becomes more important. Essay questions will ask what type of adversity did you have to overcome. The minority answer will be the issues with being a minority. Student is selected not bc of race but because they overcame adversity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1. Holistic admissions remains and testing stuff gets squishier
2. Continued emphasis on first gen
3. Top schools will figure out how to take close to as many URMs as they do today. They have zipcode data and other metrics.
4. Nobody leaves the Ivies

In other words, is not as dramatic as people think it will be.

This is it.

Low income replaces urm, it’s a pretty good predicator for diversity. And because it also encompasses some white propel, probably more popular with the masses.

[Anonymous]

The Ivy League schools have unlimited money and unlimited access to clever lawyers. They will concoct various work arounds, some of which have been identified above

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The essay becomes more important. Essay questions will ask what type of adversity did you have to overcome. The minority answer will be the issues with being a minority. Student is selected not bc of race but because they overcame adversity.

Interesting perspective.

One of the SCOTUS justices seemed amenable to this approach.

[Anonymous]

ACB & KBJ’s kids attend their alma maters as legacies

[Anonymous]

This topic keeps being posted about and I don’t think it’s black people starting these threads. I really don’t think black people, the group that AA supposedly favors the most, are that concerned about how the SC will rule. Whether AA stays or not colleges will still build a diverse class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This topic keeps being posted about and I don’t think it’s black people starting these threads. I really don’t think black people, the group that AA supposedly favors the most, are that concerned about how the SC will rule. Whether AA stays or not colleges will still build a diverse class.

Well pretending to be concerned about black people is a never ending pet project for woke democrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This topic keeps being posted about and I don’t think it’s black people starting these threads. I really don’t think black people, the group that AA supposedly favors the most, are that concerned about how the SC will rule. Whether AA stays or not colleges will still build a diverse class.

It’s white people who think a black kid took their child’s spot who are starting these threads. A ruling banning AA will not work out like they think it will. They will find another group to blame. Watch out Asians.

I’m black with two kids in high school and don’t give a f$@# about the SC ruling. There are plenty of colleges out there. The ironic thing is there WAY more white people thinking they got screwed than black kids at any of these colleges. This isn’t going to solve your perceived problem.

Carry on though with 10 threads a day on this topic hoping somehow Sally can go to Harvard. Newsflash: it’s not happening.

[Anonymous]

I think people forgot (or never knew) what life was like before affirmative action. Please read The Exceptions: Nancy Hopkins, MIT, and the Fight for Women in Science. It is absolutely startling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This topic keeps being posted about and I don’t think it’s black people starting these threads. I really don’t think black people, the group that AA supposedly favors the most, are that concerned about how the SC will rule. Whether AA stays or not colleges will still build a diverse class.

It’s white people who think a black kid took their child’s spot who are starting these threads. A ruling banning AA will not work out like they think it will. They will find another group to blame. Watch out Asians.

I’m black with two kids in high school and don’t give a f$@# about the SC ruling. There are plenty of colleges out there. The ironic thing is there WAY more white people thinking they got screwed than black kids at any of these colleges. This isn’t going to solve your perceived problem.

Carry on though with 10 threads a day on this topic hoping somehow Sally can go to Harvard. Newsflash: it’s not happening.

+1 also black person with one kid in high school. Tens of thousands of kids applying to the same 50 schools plus their state flagships thinking that somehow the odds will significantly change after the SC decision 😭

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Anonymous wrote:Would the Supreme Court’s decision impact HS class of 2024? Or would it be the following year? Can Universities change admissions drastically of decision comes as late as July 2023?

I’d expect kids waitlisted this year at schools openly engaging in AA to sue, same with last year and the year before right up to the statute of limitations.

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm sure you're not one either. The schools had a previous Supreme Court decision saying what they were doing was kosher. I don't see how a lawsuit could work retroactively. (Help me out, numerous biglaw partners on this board).

This case will say that one was wrongly decided. They will say that this was the correct reading all along, so the law has not actually changed

This is correct. Precedent will win out. And in the off chance that it does not, private colleges especially have the right to choose whoever the heck they want to choose, as they always have. They have NEVER EVER just chosen on grades and scores. Like -- NEVER. At Harvard in particular, everybody is 4.0, perfect or near perfect SAT. By definition, the choice between one or the other student is going to be in soft skills and other factors. Race can be determined by 100 other indicators that don't look like race. And as much as I hate to say it, if you think a Big 10 school with a major sports program and billionaire boosters and donors is going to be OK with their alma mater being mostly Asian you are nuts. Won't happen.