K Street Transitway

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Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.

Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.

"Useless" is probably overstating it -- I prefer protected bike lanes when I commute by bike, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to travel on other roads, and it doesn't mean protected bike lanes that don't run directly to my office are useless.

The lanes on L& M are useful if one is bike commuting to a point on or north of those streets. They are entirely useless if one is commuting to a point anywhere from south of L to north of G.

I just don't think this is true unless you're only willing to ride in protected bike lanes. Again, I would love it if there were protected bike lanes everywhere, and I take the protected lanes whenever I can. But surely we can advocate for additional bike infrastructure without declaring that anything we currently have is no good because it's not yet perfected.

It’s better than nothing, true. But I wouldn’t feel comfortable letting my kids bike on a bus lane - cars swerve in an out of them and they are frequently blocked by various parked vehicles. Protected bike lanes make a big difference - anyone who tells you otherwise either doesn’t bike or bikes all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:People barely use the bike lanes we already have. The number of cyclists is pathetically small, especially given how relentlessly the city promotes it.

This is shaping up to be the hottest year in recorded history. Maybe it’s time we start making it easier for people to commute without making things even worse. If you care at all about the planet we will leave future generations, maybe you should also get behind that.

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Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.

Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.

"Useless" is probably overstating it -- I prefer protected bike lanes when I commute by bike, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to travel on other roads, and it doesn't mean protected bike lanes that don't run directly to my office are useless.

The lanes on L& M are useful if one is bike commuting to a point on or north of those streets. They are entirely useless if one is commuting to a point anywhere from south of L to north of G.

There are bus/bike lanes on H and I and another protected bike lane on G. Connecting all of this are protected bike lanes on 20th.

So to reiterate:

G Street: Protected Bike Lane
H Street: Bus/Bike Lane
I Street: Bus/Bike Lane
L Street: Protected Bike Lane
M Street: Protected Bike Lane

Where are you trying to get to that none of these options work for you?

None of these connect to the CCT, which is the main conduit for bike commuters coming from NW DC and Bethesda. I take it that you've never biked on a "bus / bike lane" or you wouldn't be presenting that as a serious option.

I have bikes it plenty of times. It depends on where you work but I usual take K Street and come Penn. But you have plenty of options coming off the CCT, including Virginia Avenue and L Street. I’m not sure what the complaint is.

Virginia Avenue to G Street is the obvious choice for most people. Very well done and provides protected lane access from that point to most of the city. No one in DC should complain about a lack of options.

VA to G is a rather big detour for anyone heading to work on K, which is a lot of people.

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Anonymous wrote:People barely use the bike lanes we already have. The number of cyclists is pathetically small, especially given how relentlessly the city promotes it.

This is shaping up to be the hottest year in recorded history. Maybe it’s time we start making it easier for people to commute without making things even worse. If you care at all about the planet we will leave future generations, maybe you should also get behind that.

Riding bikes makes *zero* difference to global warming. It’s purely symbolic.

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Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.

Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.

"Useless" is probably overstating it -- I prefer protected bike lanes when I commute by bike, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to travel on other roads, and it doesn't mean protected bike lanes that don't run directly to my office are useless.

The lanes on L& M are useful if one is bike commuting to a point on or north of those streets. They are entirely useless if one is commuting to a point anywhere from south of L to north of G.

I just don't think this is true unless you're only willing to ride in protected bike lanes. Again, I would love it if there were protected bike lanes everywhere, and I take the protected lanes whenever I can. But surely we can advocate for additional bike infrastructure without declaring that anything we currently have is no good because it's not yet perfected.

It’s better than nothing, true. But I wouldn’t feel comfortable letting my kids bike on a bus lane - cars swerve in an out of them and they are frequently blocked by various parked vehicles. Protected bike lanes make a big difference - anyone who tells you otherwise either doesn’t bike or bikes all the time.

Yep, Ubers and other cars in these lanes are super annoying. Metro just announced it’s adding cameras to its buses and the city will be using that to issue tickets to cars using the bus / bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.

Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.

"Useless" is probably overstating it -- I prefer protected bike lanes when I commute by bike, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to travel on other roads, and it doesn't mean protected bike lanes that don't run directly to my office are useless.

The lanes on L& M are useful if one is bike commuting to a point on or north of those streets. They are entirely useless if one is commuting to a point anywhere from south of L to north of G.

I just don't think this is true unless you're only willing to ride in protected bike lanes. Again, I would love it if there were protected bike lanes everywhere, and I take the protected lanes whenever I can. But surely we can advocate for additional bike infrastructure without declaring that anything we currently have is no good because it's not yet perfected.

It’s better than nothing, true. But I wouldn’t feel comfortable letting my kids bike on a bus lane - cars swerve in an out of them and they are frequently blocked by various parked vehicles. Protected bike lanes make a big difference - anyone who tells you otherwise either doesn’t bike or bikes all the time.

This is definitely true. Fortunately, my kids don't have to commute downtown with me. I did, in the past, take a kid in a bike trailer downtown while biking to temporary daycare situations near my office about a dozen times, and then I stuck to the protected lanes more diligently than I do when it's just me. (I have life insurance, anyway.)

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Anonymous wrote:People barely use the bike lanes we already have. The number of cyclists is pathetically small, especially given how relentlessly the city promotes it.

This is shaping up to be the hottest year in recorded history. Maybe it’s time we start making it easier for people to commute without making things even worse. If you care at all about the planet we will leave future generations, maybe you should also get behind that.

Riding bikes makes *zero* difference to global warming. It’s purely symbolic.

Cars make a big difference in global warming. You're right that any one individual's choice to bike vs. drive is meaningless, but that doesn't mean making it easier for people not to drive isn't helpful for slowing climate change.

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Anonymous wrote:People barely use the bike lanes we already have. The number of cyclists is pathetically small, especially given how relentlessly the city promotes it.

This is shaping up to be the hottest year in recorded history. Maybe it’s time we start making it easier for people to commute without making things even worse. If you care at all about the planet we will leave future generations, maybe you should also get behind that.

Agreed. Let's stop wasting money, time and effort on bike lanes and do something that helps. Let's invest in mass transit and the electrical grid.

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The funny thing is that if the bike lane proponents used the bike lanes then everyone else wouldn't be complaining. But they don't. It's all performative wasteful nonsense that steals money from worthwhile environmental and mass transit programs that could actually make an impact.

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Anonymous wrote:People barely use the bike lanes we already have. The number of cyclists is pathetically small, especially given how relentlessly the city promotes it.

This is shaping up to be the hottest year in recorded history. Maybe it’s time we start making it easier for people to commute without making things even worse. If you care at all about the planet we will leave future generations, maybe you should also get behind that.

People don't bike when it's hot outside.

[Anonymous]

Put more simply, tens of thousands of people use cars to commute to work using K street (and the parallel streets). People who have kids to drop off, people who don’t have the time or inclination or physical wellness to bike to work.

Bike lanes on k street solve a big problem for a small number of commuters while creating headaches for a far greater number of people.

The large large majority of car commuters have held their nose and accepted many of the changes so far, as has the business community, in the name of safer streets and enviro, but at the end of the day taking lanes out means longer times to get the same number of people to their offices downtown by car, which makes downtown dc less attractive to nova and other office centers. And with no major transit expansions until 2040 or so, taking lanes out of at-capacity roads (looking at you, Connecticut Avenue!) simply punishes (Maryland) commuters. Some will switch to metro, others will cut thru side streets, and others will go to the office less, due to the hassle. And there goes the downtown economy.

Yes housing is coming downtown and the office market will never be what it was. But that is a decades long project. Conversions are expensive. And ps when I move downtown it won’t be because of the bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.

Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.

"Useless" is probably overstating it -- I prefer protected bike lanes when I commute by bike, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to travel on other roads, and it doesn't mean protected bike lanes that don't run directly to my office are useless.

The lanes on L& M are useful if one is bike commuting to a point on or north of those streets. They are entirely useless if one is commuting to a point anywhere from south of L to north of G.

There are bus/bike lanes on H and I and another protected bike lane on G. Connecting all of this are protected bike lanes on 20th.

So to reiterate:

G Street: Protected Bike Lane
H Street: Bus/Bike Lane
I Street: Bus/Bike Lane
L Street: Protected Bike Lane
M Street: Protected Bike Lane

Where are you trying to get to that none of these options work for you?

None of these connect to the CCT, which is the main conduit for bike commuters coming from NW DC and Bethesda. I take it that you've never biked on a "bus / bike lane" or you wouldn't be presenting that as a serious option.

I have bikes it plenty of times. It depends on where you work but I usual take K Street and come Penn. But you have plenty of options coming off the CCT, including Virginia Avenue and L Street. I’m not sure what the complaint is.

Virginia Avenue to G Street is the obvious choice for most people. Very well done and provides protected lane access from that point to most of the city. No one in DC should complain about a lack of options.

VA to G is a rather big detour for anyone heading to work on K, which is a lot of people.

The CCT is also a detour from Bethesda to downtown DC. Please just tell me where you’re going and I will tell you the easiest and safest route. DC has invested a lot in a bike lane network that everyone should be proud of. Instead it’s just constant whimpering and complaining. Life ain’t perfect honey. I would also suggest that if have it to go out of your way a couple blocks is too much of a burden for your then I don’t know how you will be able to manage a 16 mile round rip bike commute. Maybe biking just isn’t for you? I bike to work all the time and have no issues. I see tons of people biking all the time and they have no issues. I saw 5 cyclists pass through the I Street bike/bus lane just this afternoon inside of a minute of each other, which is something that you refuse to use. So maybe the issue is with you? Maybe biking just isn’t your thing? It’s okay to admit it.

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I don’t know why people keep saying that no one uses the bike lanes. I walk every day from Farragut north to McPherson and see lots of people using the north/south bike lanes that cross K. The other day I was irritated because there was a man waiting to cross the street and he was standing off the curb right in the bike lane. The biker, who has the right of way and green light, rang her bell at him repeatedly but he was oblivious, and she needed to swerve into the traffic lane to avoid him. People are so rude. Of course he was on his phone.

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Anonymous wrote:People barely use the bike lanes we already have. The number of cyclists is pathetically small, especially given how relentlessly the city promotes it.

This is shaping up to be the hottest year in recorded history. Maybe it’s time we start making it easier for people to commute without making things even worse. If you care at all about the planet we will leave future generations, maybe you should also get behind that.

People don't bike when it's hot outside.

Yes, people do. Maybe you don't, but people who are not you do.

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Anonymous wrote:People barely use the bike lanes we already have. The number of cyclists is pathetically small, especially given how relentlessly the city promotes it.

This is shaping up to be the hottest year in recorded history. Maybe it’s time we start making it easier for people to commute without making things even worse. If you care at all about the planet we will leave future generations, maybe you should also get behind that.

People don't bike when it's hot outside.

People don’t bike for a million reasons which is why all these bike lanes are empty