K Street Transitway

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.


Please tell us how to get to the CCT safely on a bike from downtown without a bike lane on K. I work downtown. I commute by bike along the CCT. Many of my colleagues do likewise. A bike lane along K is critical to our ability to do so safely.

A bus priority lane is planned. But if the bus priority lane is enforced and if bikes can use it as they can with other bike priority lanes, that may suffice as a workable second best solution.

Extending the Streetcar along K to Georgetown would be wonderful. Maybe something our great grandchildren can hope for.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.


Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.
Anonymous
There are fewer people riding the bus than there were 20 years ago. Only a handful of people actually use the million miles of bike lanes we’ve created. And downtown is a ghostown. But sure all this sounds like a fantastic use of scarce resources. We definitely don’t have any other, more pressing needs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.


Yes, please! Extend the H Streeet line across town to Georgetown, or at least Washington Circle.


Isn't that the main point of the K Street project, building rapid bus lanes?


It seems to me that the main point of the K Street project is to not get built. Or at least the city has spent the last 20 years not building it. The Roads Are For Cars folks hate bus lanes just as much as they hate bike lanes.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are fewer people riding the bus than there were 20 years ago. Only a handful of people actually use the million miles of bike lanes we’ve created. And downtown is a ghostown. But sure all this sounds like a fantastic use of scarce resources. We definitely don’t have any other, more pressing needs.


If downtown is a ghost town, then there's no need to worry about cars and parking. Great news!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.


Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.


The administration is not serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging lower-carbon forms of transportation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are fewer people riding the bus than there were 20 years ago. Only a handful of people actually use the million miles of bike lanes we’ve created. And downtown is a ghostown. But sure all this sounds like a fantastic use of scarce resources. We definitely don’t have any other, more pressing needs.


By "millions," I assume you mean roughly 100 miles total and about 24 miles of protected bike lanes

https://ddot.dc.gov/page/bicycle-lanes#:~:text=DDOT's%20Bicycle%20Lane%20program%20has,in%20the%20District%20since%202001.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.


Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.


"Useless" is probably overstating it -- I prefer protected bike lanes when I commute by bike, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to travel on other roads, and it doesn't mean protected bike lanes that don't run directly to my office are useless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.


Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.

This is why you’re losing, because you folks keep making arguments like this so it’s hard to take you seriously.

When there are bike lanes on the four streets directly parallel, the mayor is neither serious about downtown revitalization or climate change. Do you understand how crazy that sounds?

The next card in the deck is to accuse the mayor of murder for all the future imagined deaths the lack of a bike lane on this one street will cause, when again, let’s be clear, there are existing bike lanes on the four surrounding streets running directly parallel.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are fewer people riding the bus than there were 20 years ago. Only a handful of people actually use the million miles of bike lanes we’ve created. And downtown is a ghostown. But sure all this sounds like a fantastic use of scarce resources. We definitely don’t have any other, more pressing needs.


If downtown is a ghost town, then there's no need to worry about cars and parking. Great news!

Good point. I think the city should close off all of downtown to cars entirely. Studies have proven that it would stimulate more economic growth, not to mention the obvious health and climate change benefits. It would definitely bring more people downtown who don’t go there currently.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.


Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.

This is why you’re losing, because you folks keep making arguments like this so it’s hard to take you seriously.

When there are bike lanes on the four streets directly parallel, the mayor is neither serious about downtown revitalization or climate change. Do you understand how crazy that sounds?

The next card in the deck is to accuse the mayor of murder for all the future imagined deaths the lack of a bike lane on this one street will cause, when again, let’s be clear, there are existing bike lanes on the four surrounding streets running directly parallel.


Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.


Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.

This is why you’re losing, because you folks keep making arguments like this so it’s hard to take you seriously.

When there are bike lanes on the four streets directly parallel, the mayor is neither serious about downtown revitalization or climate change. Do you understand how crazy that sounds?

The next card in the deck is to accuse the mayor of murder for all the future imagined deaths the lack of a bike lane on this one street will cause, when again, let’s be clear, there are existing bike lanes on the four surrounding streets running directly parallel.


Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice?

You’ve convinced me. They should close K Street to cars and turn it into a pedestrian mall with a bikeway. Something tells me that I’m not the one that needs to be convinced.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.


Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.


"Useless" is probably overstating it -- I prefer protected bike lanes when I commute by bike, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to travel on other roads, and it doesn't mean protected bike lanes that don't run directly to my office are useless.


The lanes on L& M are useful if one is bike commuting to a point on or north of those streets. They are entirely useless if one is commuting to a point anywhere from south of L to north of G.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.


Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.


"Useless" is probably overstating it -- I prefer protected bike lanes when I commute by bike, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to travel on other roads, and it doesn't mean protected bike lanes that don't run directly to my office are useless.


The lanes on L& M are useful if one is bike commuting to a point on or north of those streets. They are entirely useless if one is commuting to a point anywhere from south of L to north of G.

There are bus/bike lanes on H and I and another protected bike lane on G. Connecting all of this are protected bike lanes on 20th.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is zero need for bike lanes on K, when you already have the L Street cycle track and the bus/bike priority lane on Eye Street.

I’d prefer to see a street car or bus priority lane on K Street.

Both H and I streets have bus/bike lanes.

Both L and M streets have protected bike lanes.

There is no need to add more bike lanes.


Why the need to be able to drive down K when L and M can suffice? The bike lanes on L and M are good to connect to Georgetown and Foggy Bottom, but are useless for those coming to and from the CCT.

Either the administration is serious about revitalizing downtown by attracting residents and/or mitigating its climate impacts by encouraging carbon-free forms of transportation or it isn’t. Sadly it seems that this is just another example of the administration’s lack of commitment to making the city a better and healthier place to live.

This is why you’re losing, because you folks keep making arguments like this so it’s hard to take you seriously.

When there are bike lanes on the four streets directly parallel, the mayor is neither serious about downtown revitalization or climate change. Do you understand how crazy that sounds?

The next card in the deck is to accuse the mayor of murder for all the future imagined deaths the lack of a bike lane on this one street will cause, when again, let’s be clear, there are existing bike lanes on the four surrounding streets running directly parallel.


You've never biked in a city before, have you? And you - like DDOT apparently - have no appreciation for the fact that if you want bike lanes to serve anything other than an ornamental function (which is apparently how Bowser et al. view them), they need to connect in a manner that forms a functional network that allows people to travel throughout the city without having to be scared shitless when they are forced to merge with manic DMV drivers (and K Street is as bad as it gets). And if you're serious about that, you don't spend years developing plans only to backtrack when a few business owners invoke the ultimate force majeure that is the pandemic to save parking spaces for themselves.
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