Will Georgetown still be a T30 in 10 years?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is Georgetown considered a T30 these days? Serious question.

Yes. It bounced between about 18 and 23 on most rankings. The SFS is the best in the country and has a low single digit admit rate.

Gtown has not been below rank of 20 since 1994.

2022 - 23
2021 - 23
2020 - 24
2019 - 22
2018 - 20
2017 - 20
2016 - 21
2015 - 21
2014 - 20
2013 - 21
2012 - 22
2013 - 21
2012 - 22
2011 - 21
2010 - 23
2009 - 23
2008 - 23
2007 - 23
2006 - 23
2005 - 25
2004 - 23
2003 - 24
2002 - 22
2001 - 23
2000 - 23
1999 - 20
1998 - 21
1997 - 23
1996 - 21
1995 - 25
1994 - 17
1993 - 17
1992 - 19
1991 - 19
1990 - 25
1989 - 17

All you've listed is USNWR. The other poster was likely referring to the alternative rankings and you misunderstood.

All that matters is USNWR. You know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Georgetown considered a T30 these days? Serious question.

Yes. It bounced between about 18 and 23 on most rankings. The SFS is the best in the country and has a low single digit admit rate.

Gtown has not been below rank of 20 since 1994.

2022 - 23
2021 - 23
2020 - 24
2019 - 22
2018 - 20
2017 - 20
2016 - 21
2015 - 21
2014 - 20
2013 - 21
2012 - 22
2013 - 21
2012 - 22
2011 - 21
2010 - 23
2009 - 23
2008 - 23
2007 - 23
2006 - 23
2005 - 25
2004 - 23
2003 - 24
2002 - 22
2001 - 23
2000 - 23
1999 - 20
1998 - 21
1997 - 23
1996 - 21
1995 - 25
1994 - 17
1993 - 17
1992 - 19
1991 - 19
1990 - 25
1989 - 17

All you've listed is USNWR. The other poster was likely referring to the alternative rankings and you misunderstood.

All that matters is USNWR. You know that.

What makes USNWR matter the most? Sell most copies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it has a better reputation and more name recognition than its rank (that was the point of the statement...)

More name recognition than Notre Dame? I doubt it.

Notre Dame is a great school too, which also has more name recognition than its rank in large part due to football.
Notre Dame would also help itself with ED and ED2, especially since it really is #1, 2, or 3 for so many who want a great midwestern school.
Notre Dame really does have limited long-term upside given its location though.

I can think of at least 10 schools in the Midwest most non-catholics would prefer to attend before Notre Dame.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it has a better reputation and more name recognition than its rank (that was the point of the statement...)

More name recognition than Notre Dame? I doubt it.

Notre Dame is a great school too, which also has more name recognition than its rank in large part due to football.
Notre Dame would also help itself with ED and ED2, especially since it really is #1, 2, or 3 for so many who want a great midwestern school.
Notre Dame really does have limited long-term upside given its location though.

I can think of at least 10 schools in the Midwest most non-catholics would prefer to attend before Notre Dame.

And those 10+ are?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it has a better reputation and more name recognition than its rank (that was the point of the statement...)

More name recognition than Notre Dame? I doubt it.

Notre Dame is a great school too, which also has more name recognition than its rank in large part due to football.
Notre Dame would also help itself with ED and ED2, especially since it really is #1, 2, or 3 for so many who want a great midwestern school.
Notre Dame really does have limited long-term upside given its location though.

I can think of at least 10 schools in the Midwest most non-catholics would prefer to attend before Notre Dame.

I prefer Georgetown to ND but still think you're just flat wrong about there close to being 10 midwestern schools non-Catholics would prefer over ND.

[Anonymous]

Maybe Northwestern, Chicago, and WashU. Including big public schools, maybe Michigan too? If you like SLACs maybe Carleton and Grinnell. I can't get close to 10...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why there are Georgetown hater on this board.

Georgetown is one of the rare universities not to play the rankings game. They don't even want the Common App, and as a result, go down in the rankings because their applicant numbers aren't artificially boosted. They ask for 4 essays, require ALL SAT or ACT scores (only college in the US to require this with MIT), and encourage submission of AP scores. They only want genuinely interested students to apply, clearly.

They don't deserve to be dumped on.

The number of applicants (or the acceptance rate) is NOT a factor in calculating the rankings. So the fact that they require 4 essays, all scores and don't use the common app have no impact on anything other than the number of applicants.

Acceptance rate, however, does factor in, and when there are thousands of potential applicants who pass because GU doesn't take the common app, that does impact the overall rankings.

No it doesn't. USNWR does not utilize data on acceptance rate to come up with rankings. See earlier comment.

Are you the one calling people dumbass because they said acceptance rate doesn't factor into rankings? Here's the thing: the heaviest weighted criterion is "reputation." And acceptance rate factors heavily into every single reviewers perception of reputation. So yes, acceptance rate has a major influence on the USNWR rankings.

[Anonymous]

Moving forward, I’d much rather be Georgetown than any top 50 college in the hollowing out miserable Midwest. East coast, power center of the world, super rich region, mild weather, safe campus. Location location location. Georgetown will always be at least top 25, if it doesn’t ascend. Those Midwest colleges will slip due to Midwest braindrain and economic stagnation.

[Anonymous]

SFS is so overrated. So many other schools that are better than it for politics/IR.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s so strange how much DCUM hates Georgetown

UVA, VaTech, Georgetown, Hopkins all get dcum hate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why there are Georgetown hater on this board.

Georgetown is one of the rare universities not to play the rankings game. They don't even want the Common App, and as a result, go down in the rankings because their applicant numbers aren't artificially boosted. They ask for 4 essays, require ALL SAT or ACT scores (only college in the US to require this with MIT), and encourage submission of AP scores. They only want genuinely interested students to apply, clearly.

They don't deserve to be dumped on.

The number of applicants (or the acceptance rate) is NOT a factor in calculating the rankings. So the fact that they require 4 essays, all scores and don't use the common app have no impact on anything other than the number of applicants.

Acceptance rate, however, does factor in, and when there are thousands of potential applicants who pass because GU doesn't take the common app, that does impact the overall rankings.

No it doesn't. USNWR does not utilize data on acceptance rate to come up with rankings. See earlier comment.

Are you the one calling people dumbass because they said acceptance rate doesn't factor into rankings? Here's the thing: the heaviest weighted criterion is "reputation." And acceptance rate factors heavily into every single reviewers perception of reputation. So yes, acceptance rate has a major influence on the USNWR rankings.

That's a stretch but ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Moving forward, I’d much rather be Georgetown than any top 50 college in the hollowing out miserable Midwest. East coast, power center of the world, super rich region, mild weather, safe campus. Location location location. Georgetown will always be at least top 25, if it doesn’t ascend. Those Midwest colleges will slip due to Midwest braindrain and economic stagnation.

Then why is Georgetown sinking and ND rising? Georgetown has a long way to go to get even close to top 15. ND was there 3 years ago and will be again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown has a stellar reputation in foreign affairs. It's School of Foreign Affairs is probably the best in the nation. I did note that it had a B- grade for financial health in Forbes, although you could argue the criteria are perhaps not the ones you'd choose to gauge long-term financial health.

However I think it will be many generations before Georgetown declines, if it ever does.

It was the first foreign affair school in the country and still rated as one of the best in the world and attracts many International students.

It’s a Jesuit institution, you know—the best educators. It’s not the same as “Catholic”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so strange how much DCUM hates Georgetown

UVA, VaTech, Georgetown, Hopkins all get dcum hate.

By the people who can’t get in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown has a stellar reputation in foreign affairs. It's School of Foreign Affairs is probably the best in the nation. I did note that it had a B- grade for financial health in Forbes, although you could argue the criteria are perhaps not the ones you'd choose to gauge long-term financial health.

However I think it will be many generations before Georgetown declines, if it ever does.

It was the first foreign affair school in the country and still rated as one of the best in the world and attracts many International students.

It’s a Jesuit institution, you know—the best educators. It’s not the same as “Catholic”.

Right...tell me another one. Georgetown is as Catholic as Notre Dame and Villanova -- both not Jesuit. You only wish it wasn't Catholic...it is.