Will Georgetown still be a T30 in 10 years?

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Anonymous wrote:At Georgetown, you get the Jesuit tradition and commitment to service but are not going to be forced to live in single-sex dorms or worry about regularly getting preached to if you are not interested. You take a year of philosophy and a year of theology or religious studies.

You take two years of Theology and two years of Philosophy along with a Ignatius seminar Freshmen year at Georgetown. ND is two philosophy and two theology classes as well. Almost all Catholic institutions require at least two Phil and two Theo. Exceptions being DePaul and Holy Cross where it’s only one of each

Interesting. DS, heading to BC in August, recently looked at core course requirements, and he said this is not the case at all. But you seem to know everything.

I do not know everything, but I guess I do know one reason why your DS is heading to BC instead of Georgetown: reading comprehension.
https://bulletin.georgetown.edu/georgetown-core/
"Philosophy – 2 Courses
Georgetown, with its commitment to the Jesuit tradition, believes that modern men and women should consider reflectively their relationship to the world, their fellow humans, and God. All students take a year of Philosophy and a year of Theology and Religious Studies."
Theology and Religious Studies – 2 courses
Through the Core, the Theology and Religious Studies Department is committed to fostering in students a critically appreciative awareness of the religious dimension of human existence, and to assisting students in reflecting upon their own experience and understanding in that enlarged context. The first course provides this foundation while the second course allows students to develop their critical awareness by applying it to a particular area of interest in religion or theology."

Exactly, and a course is 1 semester. 2 semesters=1year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bad basketball, dorm rats, city is mismanaged & deteriorating, fed gov can’t get anything done, cramped ugly campus….yup, it’s the whole package

The fact is, you need to be intellectual, hard-working, grounded, and gritty to enjoy Georgetown. If you need cushy, fancy dorms and a great basketball team, it's true, it may not be the place for you.

+1. Amen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bad basketball, dorm rats, city is mismanaged & deteriorating, fed gov can’t get anything done, cramped ugly campus….yup, it’s the whole package

The fact is, you need to be intellectual, hard-working, grounded, and gritty to enjoy Georgetown. If you need cushy, fancy dorms and a great basketball team, it's true, it may not be the place for you.

+1. Amen.

Georgetown is the one school that offered us zero aid. I’m a single mom (no dad), make 110k, but the problem is I own a 2 bedroom, 1 bath apartment in Brooklyn. I called bcs it was weird - they suggested I sell the apartment. LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At Georgetown, you get the Jesuit tradition and commitment to service but are not going to be forced to live in single-sex dorms or worry about regularly getting preached to if you are not interested. You take a year of philosophy and a year of theology or religious studies.

You take two years of Theology and two years of Philosophy along with a Ignatius seminar Freshmen year at Georgetown. ND is two philosophy and two theology classes as well. Almost all Catholic institutions require at least two Phil and two Theo. Exceptions being DePaul and Holy Cross where it’s only one of each

Interesting. DS, heading to BC in August, recently looked at core course requirements, and he said this is not the case at all. But you seem to know everything.

I do not know everything, but I guess I do know one reason why your DS is heading to BC instead of Georgetown: reading comprehension.
https://bulletin.georgetown.edu/georgetown-core/
"Philosophy – 2 Courses
Georgetown, with its commitment to the Jesuit tradition, believes that modern men and women should consider reflectively their relationship to the world, their fellow humans, and God. All students take a year of Philosophy and a year of Theology and Religious Studies."
Theology and Religious Studies – 2 courses
Through the Core, the Theology and Religious Studies Department is committed to fostering in students a critically appreciative awareness of the religious dimension of human existence, and to assisting students in reflecting upon their own experience and understanding in that enlarged context. The first course provides this foundation while the second course allows students to develop their critical awareness by applying it to a particular area of interest in religion or theology."

Exactly, and a course is 1 semester. 2 semesters=1year.

she's doubling down on the BS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad basketball, dorm rats, city is mismanaged & deteriorating, fed gov can’t get anything done, cramped ugly campus….yup, it’s the whole package

The fact is, you need to be intellectual, hard-working, grounded, and gritty to enjoy Georgetown. If you need cushy, fancy dorms and a great basketball team, it's true, it may not be the place for you.

+1. Amen.

Georgetown is the one school that offered us zero aid. I’m a single mom (no dad), make 110k, but the problem is I own a 2 bedroom, 1 bath apartment in Brooklyn. I called bcs it was weird - they suggested I sell the apartment. LOL

I have worked for several colleges , and most would tell you the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad basketball, dorm rats, city is mismanaged & deteriorating, fed gov can’t get anything done, cramped ugly campus….yup, it’s the whole package

The fact is, you need to be intellectual, hard-working, grounded, and gritty to enjoy Georgetown. If you need cushy, fancy dorms and a great basketball team, it's true, it may not be the place for you.

+1. Amen.

Georgetown is the one school that offered us zero aid. I’m a single mom (no dad), make 110k, but the problem is I own a 2 bedroom, 1 bath apartment in Brooklyn. I called bcs it was weird - they suggested I sell the apartment. LOL

I have worked for several colleges , and most would tell you the same.

Well most t30 schools exclude primary home and retirement in assets. Georgetown is the outlier

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of ranking, what is GT known for? Not much of a STEM school. For undergraduate, what are they known for?

Business and finance are big. I think you might misunderstand what STEM means too. Georgetown isn't an engineering school but does well with pre-med and math [b]and now has a decent CS program. CS and pre-med are really the core of STEM investment recently at Georgetown. It isn't trying to stand out in EE or anything like that.

I just interviewed a kid with a CS degree from GT and he was absolutely top notch. I’ve interviewed numerous kids from Stanford, MIT and CMU that couldn’t hold a candle to him. Whatever they’re doing to their CS program seems to be working.

Because you used the phrase "top notch" to describe the student, I would tend to believe you are a parent or alumni and not an actual interviewer of CS graduates.

Lol. Ok. What phrase would you like? I’ve been interviewing for 25+ years. I have absolutely no association with GT, but it’s weird how you want to assume I do just because I said something good about a grad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad basketball, dorm rats, city is mismanaged & deteriorating, fed gov can’t get anything done, cramped ugly campus….yup, it’s the whole package

The fact is, you need to be intellectual, hard-working, grounded, and gritty to enjoy Georgetown. If you need cushy, fancy dorms and a great basketball team, it's true, it may not be the place for you.

+1. Amen.

Georgetown is the one school that offered us zero aid. I’m a single mom (no dad), make 110k, but the problem is I own a 2 bedroom, 1 bath apartment in Brooklyn. I called bcs it was weird - they suggested I sell the apartment. LOL

I have worked for several colleges , and most would tell you the same.

And so incredibly stupid from a financial planning angle. We would never sell our rental home with as an investment and rental profit. No private college is worth that--go in-state undergrad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad basketball, dorm rats, city is mismanaged & deteriorating, fed gov can’t get anything done, cramped ugly campus….yup, it’s the whole package

The fact is, you need to be intellectual, hard-working, grounded, and gritty to enjoy Georgetown. If you need cushy, fancy dorms and a great basketball team, it's true, it may not be the place for you.

+1. Amen.

Georgetown is the one school that offered us zero aid. I’m a single mom (no dad), make 110k, but the problem is I own a 2 bedroom, 1 bath apartment in Brooklyn. I called bcs it was weird - they suggested I sell the apartment. LOL

I have worked for several colleges , and most would tell you the same.

And so incredibly stupid from a financial planning angle. We would never sell our rental home with as an investment and rental profit. No private college is worth that--go in-state undergrad.

I am not offering agreement to what is par for the course, but parents should not be surprised by it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad basketball, dorm rats, city is mismanaged & deteriorating, fed gov can’t get anything done, cramped ugly campus….yup, it’s the whole package

The fact is, you need to be intellectual, hard-working, grounded, and gritty to enjoy Georgetown. If you need cushy, fancy dorms and a great basketball team, it's true, it may not be the place for you.

+1. Amen.

Georgetown is the one school that offered us zero aid. I’m a single mom (no dad), make 110k, but the problem is I own a 2 bedroom, 1 bath apartment in Brooklyn. I called bcs it was weird - they suggested I sell the apartment. LOL

I have worked for several colleges , and most would tell you the same.

Well most t30 schools exclude primary home and retirement in assets. Georgetown is the outlier

Shouldn't colleges consider primary homes and retirement assets above floors they set? One of the issues with financial aid is that it has been too targeted just on income rather than wealth. Too many people intentionally put more $$ into their homes and retirement to game the system as it stands. They should be giving the need-based money to families who really need it.
Someone with equity in a $2.5 million house probably shouldn't be receiving need-based aid. Same with someone who has $2 million in a retirement account.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad basketball, dorm rats, city is mismanaged & deteriorating, fed gov can’t get anything done, cramped ugly campus….yup, it’s the whole package

The fact is, you need to be intellectual, hard-working, grounded, and gritty to enjoy Georgetown. If you need cushy, fancy dorms and a great basketball team, it's true, it may not be the place for you.

+1. Amen.

Georgetown is the one school that offered us zero aid. I’m a single mom (no dad), make 110k, but the problem is I own a 2 bedroom, 1 bath apartment in Brooklyn. I called bcs it was weird - they suggested I sell the apartment. LOL

I have worked for several colleges , and most would tell you the same.

Well most t30 schools exclude primary home and retirement in assets. Georgetown is the outlier

Shouldn't colleges consider primary homes and retirement assets above floors they set? One of the issues with financial aid is that it has been too targeted just on income rather than wealth. Too many people intentionally put more $$ into their homes and retirement to game the system as it stands. They should be giving the need-based money to families who really need it.
Someone with equity in a $2.5 million house probably shouldn't be receiving need-based aid. Same with someone who has $2 million in a retirement account.

But Georgetown has no floor. I don’t live in a nice part of Brooklyn. It would sell today for maybe 450k. They counted 450k of it in my assets. It’s capped at 4x income so if it was a 4mm house, I’d still be dinged only 110k times 4.

There’s a ceiling for rich people. But no floor.

[Anonymous]

Georgetown's old school admissions office has never even tried to game the rankings systems. Once their leadership changes after decades, you'll see improvements.
People will quickly perceive it as more selective too since the acceptance rate and application #s will change significantly once they start accepting the common app.

[Anonymous]

Georgetown is a forverver top 30 occasional top 20, similar to Emory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown's old school admissions office has never even tried to game the rankings systems. Once their leadership changes after decades, you'll see improvements.
People will quickly perceive it as more selective too since the acceptance rate and application #s will change significantly once they start accepting the common app.

I wonder why they haven’t joined the common app yet.

[Anonymous]

It will decades for them to improce their buildings etc. Has anyone been inside recently? Apalling.