Explaining lack of playing time

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid is going through recruiting, how does he/she explain this? My kid is approaching peak recruiting time (not saying kid will go to a top program, or even D1 at all, but kid is very good wants to try and see what happens. Is open to other levels). This upcoming season DC will not see much if any playing time at HS or club (same coaches). We have our own views about why this is but it is irrelevant, frankly. We have not control here.

So if you've gone through this:
-what did your kid say to coaches? How was this addressed/explained? (Clearly, will not mention our opinions as to lack of time. We have never brought up our concerns, complained to coaches, etc. We know we cannot.)
-How did you get film and exposure when the kid isn't playing?

My kid is truly going to get screwed, losing an almost entire year of meaningful play time. And this is going to really affect the process. How can it not? It's disheartening to see this playing out. Leaving our club isn't an option.

I mean, if your kid isn’t good enough to earn playing time for coaches in HS and travel, they probably aren’t actually being recruited for college, right? Or is this another delusion by the parents?

It’s not always about quantity of playing time. I think how well he does when he gets in is more important. I have seen bench basketball players get scholarships to play in college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your kid is going through recruiting, how does he/she explain this? My kid is approaching peak recruiting time (not saying kid will go to a top program, or even D1 at all, but kid is very good wants to try and see what happens. Is open to other levels). This upcoming season DC will not see much if any playing time at HS or club (same coaches). We have our own views about why this is but it is irrelevant, frankly. We have not control here.

So if you've gone through this:
-what did your kid say to coaches? How was this addressed/explained? (Clearly, will not mention our opinions as to lack of time. We have never brought up our concerns, complained to coaches, etc. We know we cannot.)
-How did you get film and exposure when the kid isn't playing?

My kid is truly going to get screwed, losing an almost entire year of meaningful play time. And this is going to really affect the process. How can it not? It's disheartening to see this playing out. Leaving our club isn't an option.

Your kid needs to go to any and all camps where coaches might be present. Lack of playing time in both HS and Club, even if it is the same coach is a red flag. If they can't start at this level, why do you think any coaches at the next level would even give a glance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid is going through recruiting, how does he/she explain this? My kid is approaching peak recruiting time (not saying kid will go to a top program, or even D1 at all, but kid is very good wants to try and see what happens. Is open to other levels). This upcoming season DC will not see much if any playing time at HS or club (same coaches). We have our own views about why this is but it is irrelevant, frankly. We have not control here.

So if you've gone through this:
-what did your kid say to coaches? How was this addressed/explained? (Clearly, will not mention our opinions as to lack of time. We have never brought up our concerns, complained to coaches, etc. We know we cannot.)
-How did you get film and exposure when the kid isn't playing?

My kid is truly going to get screwed, losing an almost entire year of meaningful play time. And this is going to really affect the process. How can it not? It's disheartening to see this playing out. Leaving our club isn't an option.

I mean, if your kid isn’t good enough to earn playing time for coaches in HS and travel, they probably aren’t actually being recruited for college, right? Or is this another delusion by the parents?

It’s not always about quantity of playing time. I think how well he does when he gets in is more important. I have seen bench basketball players get scholarships to play in college.

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? Please explain. This is not normal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Great player + great attitude but doesn’t get to play in high school or club? Someone sounds like they are deluding themselves, OP. Maybe the coach is your ex and still bitter about the breakup?

NP. Come on. This is almost absurdly idealistic. There are many terrible reasons this happens, including racism, bias against the kid for reasons totally out of their control, classicism, etc. I’ve seen coaches blackball a kid because a sibling ten years earlier was not good. I’ve seen coaches refuse to play a kid for reasons that in the employment context would be overtly illegal.

I have one kid who is a current college athlete and another on the way. I have been through it. You people who believe in the myth of meritocracy in youth sports are ridiculous.

+1
Thank you stating this and doing it in such a non-inflammatory way. We know a D1 recruit who never got playing time on a team and no one ever knew why.

I know a girl who barley played for her high school basketball team because the coach just didn't like her. She did play and shine on an AAU team that played in really big exposure tournaments though. No one on her high school team would have even made the bench for her club team, but the coach had favorites. That being said, I don't see how a kid who doesn't get playing time in school or club ever catches a coach's eye and gets recruited unless they are really impressive in a camp

Basketball recruiting is all about AAU. High school doesn’t matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP what is the reason- in your words? If you could just tell us that would be helpful.

Sounds like baseball to me? Someone else parked in his best defensive position? Coach’s kid issue?

Why can’t he play for a different club at least? Even for summer?

It is hard to advise without more info.

It's this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well then what is the reason. If you want help here, you need to provide some details.

The question has nothing to do with the reasons. But how to work around.

No, sorry, there has to be a reason he's not getting playing time and that reason probably will impact his playing in college, too, so it absolutely matters.

[Anonymous]

What are some reasons a coach won't play a talented kid on the team?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well then what is the reason. If you want help here, you need to provide some details.

The question has nothing to do with the reasons. But how to work around.

No, sorry, there has to be a reason he's not getting playing time and that reason probably will impact his playing in college, too, so it absolutely matters.

Not really. Your just curious. It doesn't matter bc that aspect of it can't be changed. That said, I posted above the reason but I won't say more about it. I'm not saying anything identifying. Period.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well then what is the reason. If you want help here, you need to provide some details.

The question has nothing to do with the reasons. But how to work around.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well then what is the reason. If you want help here, you need to provide some details.

The question has nothing to do with the reasons. But how to work around.

No, sorry, there has to be a reason he's not getting playing time and that reason probably will impact his playing in college, too, so it absolutely matters.

Not really. You're just curious. It doesn't matter bc that aspect of it can't be changed. That said, I posted above the reason but I won't say more about it. I'm not saying anything identifying. Period.

OP's kid does not get along with the coach's kid -- for anyone looking for the reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well then what is the reason. If you want help here, you need to provide some details.

The question has nothing to do with the reasons. But how to work around.

No, sorry, there has to be a reason he's not getting playing time and that reason probably will impact his playing in college, too, so it absolutely matters.

Not really. You're just curious. It doesn't matter bc that aspect of it can't be changed. That said, I posted above the reason but I won't say more about it. I'm not saying anything identifying. Period.

OP's kid does not get along with the coach's kid -- for anyone looking for the reason.

A+ attempt at baiting into a response that gives you what you want. Well done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Great player + great attitude but doesn’t get to play in high school or club? Someone sounds like they are deluding themselves, OP. Maybe the coach is your ex and still bitter about the breakup?

NP. Come on. This is almost absurdly idealistic. There are many terrible reasons this happens, including racism, bias against the kid for reasons totally out of their control, classicism, etc. I’ve seen coaches blackball a kid because a sibling ten years earlier was not good. I’ve seen coaches refuse to play a kid for reasons that in the employment context would be overtly illegal.

I have one kid who is a current college athlete and another on the way. I have been through it. You people who believe in the myth of meritocracy in youth sports are ridiculous.

+1
Thank you stating this and doing it in such a non-inflammatory way. We know a D1 recruit who never got playing time on a team and no one ever knew why.

I know a girl who barley played for her high school basketball team because the coach just didn't like her. She did play and shine on an AAU team that played in really big exposure tournaments though. No one on her high school team would have even made the bench for her club team, but the coach had favorites. That being said, I don't see how a kid who doesn't get playing time in school or club ever catches a coach's eye and gets recruited unless they are really impressive in a camp

Basketball recruiting is all about AAU. High school doesn’t matter.

Of course. This girl was good enough for one of the best AAU clubs in the area and rode a high school bench behind girls who would never make that club let alone play for their top team

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well then what is the reason. If you want help here, you need to provide some details.

The question has nothing to do with the reasons. But how to work around.

No, sorry, there has to be a reason he's not getting playing time and that reason probably will impact his playing in college, too, so it absolutely matters.

Not really. You're just curious. It doesn't matter bc that aspect of it can't be changed. That said, I posted above the reason but I won't say more about it. I'm not saying anything identifying. Period.

OP's kid does not get along with the coach's kid -- for anyone looking for the reason.

What sport has a coach who has a kid on the team at a high level of play? That would not be the norm in the sports I am familiar with. Club teams have professional coaches. High schools have professional coaches. If that is happening, it’s time to switch clubs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well then what is the reason. If you want help here, you need to provide some details.

The question has nothing to do with the reasons. But how to work around.

No, sorry, there has to be a reason he's not getting playing time and that reason probably will impact his playing in college, too, so it absolutely matters.

Not really. You're just curious. It doesn't matter bc that aspect of it can't be changed. That said, I posted above the reason but I won't say more about it. I'm not saying anything identifying. Period.

OP's kid does not get along with the coach's kid -- for anyone looking for the reason.

What sport has a coach who has a kid on the team at a high level of play? That would not be the norm in the sports I am familiar with. Club teams have professional coaches. High schools have professional coaches. If that is happening, it’s time to switch clubs.

Occasionally you see it in AAU where a one off team is built around a kid, but the established clubs that I'm familiar with has rules baring it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are some reasons a coach won't play a talented kid on the team?

I'm not OP, but my brother moved across the country with my family during the middle of junior year of high school (after football season). He should have been a varsity starter on the new school's football team as a senior the next fall, but was told that he "didn't have enough of a track record" to get any playing time. He'd been a varsity starter all three years at his prior school and walked on to a college team the next year. The HS coach just didn't want to displace the senior he'd already coached for three years in that position, even if my brother was better. It happens.