More Chaos at ACHS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

A 17 year old girl ODed/poisoned by fentanyl (sounds like she died) at Lloyd Apartments at 5 this afternoon. Person who called 911 refused to do cpr and had left the scene by the time medics/police arrived. Looks like another email about a tragic death of a student is impending. It is tragic. The silence of those in power is equally tragic.


And this is ACHS’s fault how?

This is tragic, but what someone did at an apartment doesn't seem closely tied to the problems at the high school (which are real).

What happens at an apartment isn't ACPS' fault. But don't forget that there was an OD at ACHS just a few weeks ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A 17 year old girl ODed/poisoned by fentanyl (sounds like she died) at Lloyd Apartments at 5 this afternoon. Person who called 911 refused to do cpr and had left the scene by the time medics/police arrived. Looks like another email about a tragic death of a student is impending. It is tragic. The silence of those in power is equally tragic.


And this is ACHS’s fault how?

This is tragic, but what someone did at an apartment doesn't seem closely tied to the problems at the high school (which are real).

What happens at an apartment isn't ACPS' fault. But don't forget that there was an OD at ACHS just a few weeks ago.

NP here. I agree but the attitude towards ODs in Alexandria is really off the rails. There is a ton of denial that it can’t happen to them (similar to my kids don’t see fights at school bc they’re in all (self-selected) honors classes so they’re somehow immune). For ex: I’m in an Alexandria spin off Buy Nothing group on fb where someone was asking how to get Narcan in Alexandria. Poster was saying they knew the city had a program where one is supposedly able to just walk into any pharmacy or email the DOH or call a number to get it for free and was running into road block after road block (such as pharmacy was out of Narcan, or pharmacy refused to give it to poster bc only a designated person was allowed to distribute and they weren’t there, no one answered the DOH number and the poster had emailed the DOH email but after several days got no response). So after asking for help on this particular BN (which is exactly for these kind of questions, it’s a spin-off group), some posters wanted to know why poster needed it to which they replied they had teens and it was recommended to them that they should have it just in case and plus all these teens were ODing. And the responses went off the rails. People were adamant there was a Narcan shortage and that Narcan is ONLY for addicts and that by this poster getting this Narcan they were denying it for an addict and contributing it to their potential death. Then it was suggested that if they just talked to their teen about the dangers of taking drugs that they wouldn’t need Narcan bc then their teen wouldn’t take it.

The thread was crazy. The OP had a lot of support but it was eye opening that many people just think it will never affect them, happen to them, probably bc they’re UMC and white.

This is Alexandria. BTW the kid who died in Arlington was 14, in 9th grade, took a Percocet laced with fentanyl.

[Anonymous]

Apparently, students are out of control at Minnie Howard. Just running through the halls. This city and its school are in a state of chaos.



Mandatory SRO/security meeting being called. Do people really feel that their kids are safe at these schools are safe?

Personally, I am shocked by the number of kids my son knows at GWMS who are using or selling drugs and alcohol on school grounds. These are upper middle class kids, not kids from disadvantaged backgrounds. I don't know what on earth is going on there.

[Anonymous]

What happens at an apartment isn't ACPS' fault. But don't forget that there was an OD at ACHS just a few weeks ago.


NP here. I agree but the attitude towards ODs in Alexandria is really off the rails. There is a ton of denial that it can’t happen to them (similar to my kids don’t see fights at school bc they’re in all (self-selected) honors classes so they’re somehow immune). For ex: I’m in an Alexandria spin off Buy Nothing group on fb where someone was asking how to get Narcan in Alexandria. Poster was saying they knew the city had a program where one is supposedly able to just walk into any pharmacy or email the DOH or call a number to get it for free and was running into road block after road block (such as pharmacy was out of Narcan, or pharmacy refused to give it to poster bc only a designated person was allowed to distribute and they weren’t there, no one answered the DOH number and the poster had emailed the DOH email but after several days got no response). So after asking for help on this particular BN (which is exactly for these kind of questions, it’s a spin-off group), some posters wanted to know why poster needed it to which they replied they had teens and it was recommended to them that they should have it just in case and plus all these teens were ODing. And the responses went off the rails. People were adamant there was a Narcan shortage and that Narcan is ONLY for addicts and that by this poster getting this Narcan they were denying it for an addict and contributing it to their potential death. Then it was suggested that if they just talked to their teen about the dangers of taking drugs that they wouldn’t need Narcan bc then their teen wouldn’t take it.

The thread was crazy. The OP had a lot of support but it was eye opening that many people just think it will never affect them, happen to them, probably bc they’re UMC and white.

This is Alexandria. BTW the kid who died in Arlington was 14, in 9th grade, took a Percocet laced with fentanyl.

I have many, many issue with ACPS and Alexandria, but the problem of kids using drugs and ODing is a nation-wide crisis. I have friends from law school in multiple cities throughout the U.S. and they are all noticing the same issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What happens at an apartment isn't ACPS' fault. But don't forget that there was an OD at ACHS just a few weeks ago.


NP here. I agree but the attitude towards ODs in Alexandria is really off the rails. There is a ton of denial that it can’t happen to them (similar to my kids don’t see fights at school bc they’re in all (self-selected) honors classes so they’re somehow immune). For ex: I’m in an Alexandria spin off Buy Nothing group on fb where someone was asking how to get Narcan in Alexandria. Poster was saying they knew the city had a program where one is supposedly able to just walk into any pharmacy or email the DOH or call a number to get it for free and was running into road block after road block (such as pharmacy was out of Narcan, or pharmacy refused to give it to poster bc only a designated person was allowed to distribute and they weren’t there, no one answered the DOH number and the poster had emailed the DOH email but after several days got no response). So after asking for help on this particular BN (which is exactly for these kind of questions, it’s a spin-off group), some posters wanted to know why poster needed it to which they replied they had teens and it was recommended to them that they should have it just in case and plus all these teens were ODing. And the responses went off the rails. People were adamant there was a Narcan shortage and that Narcan is ONLY for addicts and that by this poster getting this Narcan they were denying it for an addict and contributing it to their potential death. Then it was suggested that if they just talked to their teen about the dangers of taking drugs that they wouldn’t need Narcan bc then their teen wouldn’t take it.

The thread was crazy. The OP had a lot of support but it was eye opening that many people just think it will never affect them, happen to them, probably bc they’re UMC and white.

This is Alexandria. BTW the kid who died in Arlington was 14, in 9th grade, took a Percocet laced with fentanyl.

I have many, many issue with ACPS and Alexandria, but the problem of kids using drugs and ODing is a nation-wide crisis. I have friends from law school in multiple cities throughout the U.S. and they are all noticing the same issue.

Correct. So what is your point?

[Anonymous]

I have many, many issue with ACPS and Alexandria, but the problem of kids using drugs and ODing is a nation-wide crisis. I have friends from law school in multiple cities throughout the U.S. and they are all noticing the same issue.


Correct. So what is your point?

The same denial also seems to exist everywhere. I have seen the exact response described above in connection with a mother's request of where to buy fentanyl testing strips.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What happens at an apartment isn't ACPS' fault. But don't forget that there was an OD at ACHS just a few weeks ago.


NP here. I agree but the attitude towards ODs in Alexandria is really off the rails. There is a ton of denial that it can’t happen to them (similar to my kids don’t see fights at school bc they’re in all (self-selected) honors classes so they’re somehow immune). For ex: I’m in an Alexandria spin off Buy Nothing group on fb where someone was asking how to get Narcan in Alexandria. Poster was saying they knew the city had a program where one is supposedly able to just walk into any pharmacy or email the DOH or call a number to get it for free and was running into road block after road block (such as pharmacy was out of Narcan, or pharmacy refused to give it to poster bc only a designated person was allowed to distribute and they weren’t there, no one answered the DOH number and the poster had emailed the DOH email but after several days got no response). So after asking for help on this particular BN (which is exactly for these kind of questions, it’s a spin-off group), some posters wanted to know why poster needed it to which they replied they had teens and it was recommended to them that they should have it just in case and plus all these teens were ODing. And the responses went off the rails. People were adamant there was a Narcan shortage and that Narcan is ONLY for addicts and that by this poster getting this Narcan they were denying it for an addict and contributing it to their potential death. Then it was suggested that if they just talked to their teen about the dangers of taking drugs that they wouldn’t need Narcan bc then their teen wouldn’t take it.

The thread was crazy. The OP had a lot of support but it was eye opening that many people just think it will never affect them, happen to them, probably bc they’re UMC and white.

This is Alexandria. BTW the kid who died in Arlington was 14, in 9th grade, took a Percocet laced with fentanyl.

I have many, many issue with ACPS and Alexandria, but the problem of kids using drugs and ODing is a nation-wide crisis. I have friends from law school in multiple cities throughout the U.S. and they are all noticing the same issue.

Read what I wrote again. I know it's a national crisis, and the OP asking how to get Narcan agreed it was a national crisis. Who didn't agree: other Alexandria residents who were telling the poster only addicts need it. This is the BS attitude of many Alexandrians, that it can't happen to me and to me that's dangerous.

[Anonymous]

I have many, many issue with ACPS and Alexandria, but the problem of kids using drugs and ODing is a nation-wide crisis. I have friends from law school in multiple cities throughout the U.S. and they are all noticing the same issue.


Read what I wrote again. I know it's a national crisis, and the OP asking how to get Narcan agreed it was a national crisis. Who didn't agree: other Alexandria residents who were telling the poster only addicts need it. This is the BS attitude of many Alexandrians, that it can't happen to me and to me that's dangerous.

But I am explaining that I see that same attitude elsewhere as well.

[Anonymous]

When Alexandrian parents are shaming other parents who are trying to get narcan because to them potential ODs only happen to addicts THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM.

You think attitudes like that, which are pervasive in Alexandria, esp among Wilson's mommy mafia and PTAC, that the environment at any ACPS will get better. They deny there are fights, they deny there are gangs, and now parents are denying that people need Narcan.

Put your kid in private or move somewhere where people have a clue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I have many, many issue with ACPS and Alexandria, but the problem of kids using drugs and ODing is a nation-wide crisis. I have friends from law school in multiple cities throughout the U.S. and they are all noticing the same issue.


Read what I wrote again. I know it's a national crisis, and the OP asking how to get Narcan agreed it was a national crisis. Who didn't agree: other Alexandria residents who were telling the poster only addicts need it. This is the BS attitude of many Alexandrians, that it can't happen to me and to me that's dangerous.

But I am explaining that I see that same attitude elsewhere as well.

Not very clearly because there were several attitudes discussed: 1) that narcan should only be for addicts, 2) that talking to your teens re not taking drugs will keep them off of drugs so you don't need narcan, and 3) that nothing will happen to "my" kid because my kid doesn't see the fights or have problems bc they're in all honors classes (aka UMC white).

Be clear. To me, you aren't clear, so I don't know what attitude you're expressing. Not trying to be snarky so please do not take it that way.

[Anonymous]

You think attitudes like that, which are pervasive in Alexandria, esp among Wilson's mommy mafia and PTAC, that the environment at any ACPS will get better. They deny there are fights, they deny there are gangs, and now parents are denying that people need Narcan.

I don't think the environment will get better so long as the schools are as overcrowded as they currently are, and there are so few alternative programs for kids who cannot function in a regular school environment. To me, this is the case of the problem.

[Anonymous]

1) that narcan should only be for addicts, 2) that talking to your teens re not taking drugs will keep them off of drugs so you don't need narcan, and 3) that nothing will happen to "my" kid because my kid doesn't see the fights or have problems bc they're in all honors classes (aka UMC white).

Definitely 1 and 2, and to a lesser or different degree, 3. My sister taught at a school in a poor area of NYC where a student was shot outside of school. Almost no one who attended was white or UMC, but she definitely saw the attitude from parents that it could never happen to or affect their kids because they were good students, on track to go to community college or join the military etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When Alexandrian parents are shaming other parents who are trying to get narcan because to them potential ODs only happen to addicts THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM.

You think attitudes like that, which are pervasive in Alexandria, esp among Wilson's mommy mafia and PTAC, that the environment at any ACPS will get better. They deny there are fights, they deny there are gangs, and now parents are denying that people need Narcan.

Put your kid in private or move somewhere where people have a clue.

+1

[Anonymous]

I think there is some serious gang/crew war going on right now. The slashing at dismissal yesterday affirmed my belief. I hope the SRO / safety meeting is to address this reality.

[Anonymous]

I think there is some serious gang/crew war going on right now. The slashing at dismissal yesterday affirmed my belief. I hope the SRO / safety meeting is to address this reality.

I thought it happened at lunch, not dismissal. My son is not at King Street yet, but that is what he heard at sports practice yesterday.