FCYBL All County Teams

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Anonymous wrote:The coach's favorite will be selected not the best player.

Unfortunately, this exactly what is happening. On the bright side, it is a good way to learn behaviors and practices of a Coach.

This is OP, talking to herself.

This person is very defensive. Wonder if it’s one of the coaches being discussed, a relative of one of them or a relative of one of the players who got an award even though they didn’t deserve it.

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Anonymous wrote:The coach's favorite will be selected not the best player.

Unfortunately, this exactly what is happening. On the bright side, it is a good way to learn behaviors and practices of a Coach.

This is OP, talking to herself.

This person is very defensive. Wonder if it’s one of the coaches being discussed, a relative of one of them or a relative of one of the players who got an award even though they didn’t deserve it.

Omg, OP, you are the only one who cares. Sorry your kid didn't make all league.

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To many of these coaches are scumbags and are only coaching for selfish reasons. They aren’t there for the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Just wondering how some of these all county selections are made. After my son played Sunday, we stayed to watch a Gainesville vs Vienna game. The basketball community is small and we know the best players, this has peaked my curiosity and I’ve been trying to figure this out.
The Gainesville team had 4 All County Selections and the kid who is clearly their best player wasn’t even on the list. We know the Vienna players and of their three best players, one made the list twice, 2 were left off, and there was a questionable selection to the list.
Does each coach select which players they want from their team, do opposing coaches have a vote, how does this work? Are there any checks and balances that the league incorporates.
The selections from my sons team looked pretty accurate. The kids know who the top players are and I would hate to think, a coach would purposely mess a kid over, for whatever reason, even though sometimes you may hear rumors.

Coaches nominate up to 3 players as well as MVP nomination (if in top 5 of standings at time of nominations), including brief write up for each player on contribution/strengths. Then opposing coaches vote for up to 5 of the slate of nominees (as well as MVP winner). Coaches are NOT allowed to vote for their own players though don’t know how closely the league checks that (would have to be caught manually) and may lead to some shenanigans. But overall it’s opposing coaches recognizing top players without voting for their own.

Okay, so a kid can’t make it, if the coach doesn’t nominate him? And if the coach nominates 2 kids and one of them is also nominated for MVP, that kids name may come up twice.
Opposing coaches can see who the best player is, so when a kid is obviously messed over, it’s likely an in-house thing right?

A kid could be having one amazing game that doesn't reflect his whole season.

If the coach makes a MISTAKE and puts a kids name down for MVP and regular all-league, then that kid's name would come up twice.

The only way to be considered for all-league is for a player's coach to nominate him.

A kid being 'obviously messed over' (let me guess, it’s your kid)....not sure what you mean by that. Most coaches nominate their best players. With "best" to include practice attendance, teamwork, good sportsmanship, good attitude etc. My husband coached in this league for five seasons and we have never not seen the clearly strongest players not nominated for all league. Now the next, more subjective tier, sure.

Not my kid, but the Gainesvilles best player and he is hands down the best did not get one of 4 spots given to kids on that team. He got skipped 4 times. We are talking about the strongest, most athletic kid in the division. He needs some work, but he’s head and shoulders the best.

Then he got skipped over by his own coach, who may have some good reasons why the others were nominated and possibly went back and forth on which to nominate and which to leave off. It's worth acknowledging the three that were not the MVP nominations were ALL voted to the all county team by the coach's peers, so clearly they are good in their own right and it supports the player's coach's decision. Strongest most athletic doesn't mean best basketball player or even the best at a particular aspect of the game. You said it yourself the kid needs some work. This selection or omission has no bearing on this player's future as a basketball player. There's always next year, or always another team if getting the accolade is that important.

The kid needs work, but he doesn’t need work to be the best player on that team or probably the most attractive player in the league to a recruiter. Probably wouldn’t have given him the MVP, but he still was the most dominant player in the league. The MVP didn’t even come from his team. There is just no justification on the Gainesville kid being left out. I have played against the kid for years and never seen him demonstrate poor sportsmanship. I do know that he also plays for Takeover so maybe he missed some practices, but that doesn’t take away from him being the best player on the team.

The Vienna Coach is going through some things. He coaches the same age group of AAU players and I am hearing that most of his team left him. One of the AAU kids unfortunately, was also on his County team and certainly one of the top 3 players. He coincidentally has been getting benched after informing the coach that he would not return to his AAU team and just happened to be overlooked for the All County selection. Don’t know why the the other of his top 3 guys didn’t get selected.

I’d hate to think the Vienna coach was holding grudges and not coaching with integrity. I have been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I guess if it walks likes a duck………

What AAU team does the Vienna guy coach?

Nova94 Premier, accept since almost his entire team left, I don’t think they will be Premier anymore.

What team did the players go to after nova 94?
Also fwiw, my kid has played Gainesville in both AAU and in fcybl and their coach, players, and parents were fine for us.

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Anonymous wrote:It must be 7th grade D1.

Wow, there were like, no teams in that division. How did they have a division with only 6 teams total?

There were other teams that started in d1 but then moved to d2. D1’s top teams each have kids that have played year round together for years. So I think it’s tough for a random group of kids to compete against that, even when skilled bball players.

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Anonymous wrote:To many of these coaches are scumbags and are only coaching for selfish reasons. They aren’t there for the kids.

TRUE but not all. A few are really good coaches

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Anonymous wrote:To many of these coaches are scumbags and are only coaching for selfish reasons. They aren’t there for the kids.

It is a long season and a huge time commitment for a volunteer. Almost all the coaches we have dealt with over several years have seemed like decent people trying their best.

If you didn't like your child's coach, don't play for him next year.
Or volunteer to coach yourself.

AAU teams masquerading as "Gainesville" or "Mclean" are why the league needs to actually look at the zip codes and not leave it up to honor system.

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Anonymous wrote:To many of these coaches are scumbags and are only coaching for selfish reasons. They aren’t there for the kids.

It is a long season and a huge time commitment for a volunteer. Almost all the coaches we have dealt with over several years have seemed like decent people trying their best.

If you didn't like your child's coach, don't play for him next year.
Or volunteer to coach yourself.

AAU teams masquerading as "Gainesville" or "Mclean" are why the league needs to actually look at the zip codes and not leave it up to honor system.

the 8th grade Mclean team is stacked. Most of the kids I know on that team live in Mclean or Falls Church so they may all be in eligible zip codes. The 7th grade Mclean team is good, but they aren't dominating the league, and the 7th grade D1 Gainesville team is a powerhouse only because of the very athletic kid that wears goggles. I assume he is the one that did not get selected for All Stars. if that is the case and he were my son, we definitely would not play with that team anymore.

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There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

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Anonymous wrote:There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

I don't find margin of victory suspect. By 8th, a lot of the really strong AAU players aren't doing county anymore, so if you get a relatively strong AAU team still playing county then they should win

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Anonymous wrote:To many of these coaches are scumbags and are only coaching for selfish reasons. They aren’t there for the kids.

It is a long season and a huge time commitment for a volunteer. Almost all the coaches we have dealt with over several years have seemed like decent people trying their best.

If you didn't like your child's coach, don't play for him next year.
Or volunteer to coach yourself.

AAU teams masquerading as "Gainesville" or "Mclean" are why the league needs to actually look at the zip codes and not leave it up to honor system.

+1. It is a lot of time and energy.

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Anonymous wrote:There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

I don't find margin of victory suspect. By 8th, a lot of the really strong AAU players aren't doing county anymore, so if you get a relatively strong AAU team still playing county then they should win

The suspect part is that they all live in Mcleans 3 zip codes or whatever. I guess Mclean HS will have an amazing basketball team next year.

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What happened is, this guy ran around trying to stack Mclean's team to compete against the Reston team (which was the Nova Cavs) and this BRYC team that was supposed to play (which was DNA elite). Then Reston and that BRYC team dropped out of the league for whatever reason so there were no other super stacked teams to compete against. The rest of 8th grade D1 is relatively even...for instance the team playing McLean in the final was beaten by some of the low ranked teams.

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Anonymous wrote:To many of these coaches are scumbags and are only coaching for selfish reasons. They aren’t there for the kids.

It is a long season and a huge time commitment for a volunteer. Almost all the coaches we have dealt with over several years have seemed like decent people trying their best.

If you didn't like your child's coach, don't play for him next year.
Or volunteer to coach yourself.

AAU teams masquerading as "Gainesville" or "Mclean" are why the league needs to actually look at the zip codes and not leave it up to honor system.

the 8th grade Mclean team is stacked. Most of the kids I know on that team live in Mclean or Falls Church so they may all be in eligible zip codes. The 7th grade Mclean team is good, but they aren't dominating the league, and the 7th grade D1 Gainesville team is a powerhouse only because of the very athletic kid that wears goggles. I assume he is the one that did not get selected for All Stars. if that is the case and he were my son, we definitely would not play with that team anymore.

If you live in Gainesville and want to play in the FCYBL program, you don't have any other choices. You aren't allowed to play across-county.

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If the coaches, including assistants, live outside of the zipcodes then their kids can play for that team and not count against zipcode exceptions.

I noticed zipcode violations on 2 younger teams as well and told our commissioner but I doubt he reported it.

FCYBL needs to check zipcodes next year for sure! And somehow discourage the intact AAU teams from participating. Regular players on those teams are mostly benched.