FCYBL All County Teams

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Anonymous wrote:There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

The zip code thing really doesn’t make it fair. McLean can take kids from McLean, Great Falls, Falls Church, and Vienna. A team like Herndon is limited to only 2 zip codes in Herndon. Larger youth clubs have a larger talent pool to choose from. I think a way to make it more fair is to create teams based on the high schools they are zoned for. Loudoun does it this way and they still let the youth clubs/rec leagues organize the teams. If the youth clubs take kids zoned for multiple high schools, they over see multiple teams.

BRYC has 11 zip codes plus two exceptions per team....

Yeah I don't know all of the rules for each team but happen to know that there were teams in our league accused of zip code violations and then the commissioner looked into them and none of them were true. People don't realize how many teams Falls Church or other zip codes are allowed to play for and assume cheating. It's kind of annoying. I will also say that in the younger grades that for the most part the AAU teams split up for county and it makes it really fun as there are no real powerhouses.

Yeah a Falls Church kid could play for Vienna, McLean, Falls Church, Turnpike, FPC, James Lee, and probably more.

What zip code is zoned for all those different places? Usually each zip code just has 2 or maybe 3 choices.

Here's the full list. PP was exaggerating, but 22182 can play for McLean, Vienna, Great Falls, or Reston. 22043 has McLean, Vienna and Falls Church.

http://www.fcybl.org/Page.asp?n=154934&org=FCYBL.COM

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If the league got rid of the exceptions and actually checked the addresses, and enforced their own rules, t would solve most of their problems.

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Anonymous wrote:If the league got rid of the exceptions and actually checked the addresses, and enforced their own rules, t would solve most of their problems.

That creates new problems for kids in areas with either one club or in zip codes not fielding teams. Just one example, 22310 is Lee District, Lee Mt Vernon, and SSCYC. None of those clubs are fielding girls 6th or 7th grade teams

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the league got rid of the exceptions and actually checked the addresses, and enforced their own rules, t would solve most of their problems.

That creates new problems for kids in areas with either one club or in zip codes not fielding teams. Just one example, 22310 is Lee District, Lee Mt Vernon, and SSCYC. None of those clubs are fielding girls 6th or 7th grade teams

You think that's what the zip code exceptions are being used for? Seriously?

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Anonymous wrote:If the league got rid of the exceptions and actually checked the addresses, and enforced their own rules, t would solve most of their problems.

That creates new problems for kids in areas with either one club or in zip codes not fielding teams. Just one example, 22310 is Lee District, Lee Mt Vernon, and SSCYC. None of those clubs are fielding girls 6th or 7th grade teams

You think that's what the zip code exceptions are being used for? Seriously?

For competitive D1 teams? No. For D2 teams and less competitive D1 teams? DD plays for one of those and both exceptions are girls who wouldn't be able to play otherwise. One has a zip code with far more competitive teams and one has a zip code with clubs not fielding teams

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Anonymous wrote:If the league got rid of the exceptions and actually checked the addresses, and enforced their own rules, t would solve most of their problems.

That creates new problems for kids in areas with either one club or in zip codes not fielding teams. Just one example, 22310 is Lee District, Lee Mt Vernon, and SSCYC. None of those clubs are fielding girls 6th or 7th grade teams

You think that's what the zip code exceptions are being used for? Seriously?

For competitive D1 teams? No. For D2 teams and less competitive D1 teams? DD plays for one of those and both exceptions are girls who wouldn't be able to play otherwise. One has a zip code with far more competitive teams and one has a zip code with clubs not fielding teams

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Well, the solution for that is a case by case basis approval. But "not being able to make a team in your zip code" is not a compelling reason. If there is NO team in your zip, then yes, the league could make an exception. But that is very unusual.

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Anonymous wrote:If the league got rid of the exceptions and actually checked the addresses, and enforced their own rules, t would solve most of their problems.

That creates new problems for kids in areas with either one club or in zip codes not fielding teams. Just one example, 22310 is Lee District, Lee Mt Vernon, and SSCYC. None of those clubs are fielding girls 6th or 7th grade teams

You think that's what the zip code exceptions are being used for? Seriously?

For competitive D1 teams? No. For D2 teams and less competitive D1 teams? DD plays for one of those and both exceptions are girls who wouldn't be able to play otherwise. One has a zip code with far more competitive teams and one has a zip code with clubs not fielding teams

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Well, the solution for that is a case by case basis approval. But "not being able to make a team in your zip code" is not a compelling reason. If there is NO team in your zip, then yes, the league could make an exception. But that is very unusual.

You don't know there is no team until teams are well into tryouts. Some clubs have tryouts in the hope that enough kids will show up. If those kids are forced to stick around until the club pulls the plug rather than tryout elsewhere, then rosters will be full by the time they can apply for exceptions.

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Anonymous wrote:There is at least one kid on that 8th grade D1 Mclean team who lives in Fairfax City but they do get their two zip code exceptions. The team was stacked by this guy who coached Nova 94 for years so he traded out less talented players from last year as he found new ones--two of their all league players this season were new to the team.

It is a little suspect that they have won their games so easily against all the other D1 teams.

Maybe the league needs to get rid of the exceptions as it makes it too easy to build these unbeatable super teams.

Kudos to the "regular" teams willing to play in 7th and 8th grade boys D1-they know they will have no chance of winning some of their games, whereas if they dropped to D2 they would have easy Ws most of the season and a chance at the trophy.

The zip code thing really doesn’t make it fair. McLean can take kids from McLean, Great Falls, Falls Church, and Vienna. A team like Herndon is limited to only 2 zip codes in Herndon. Larger youth clubs have a larger talent pool to choose from. I think a way to make it more fair is to create teams based on the high schools they are zoned for. Loudoun does it this way and they still let the youth clubs/rec leagues organize the teams. If the youth clubs take kids zoned for multiple high schools, they over see multiple teams.

BRYC has 11 zip codes plus two exceptions per team....

Yeah I don't know all of the rules for each team but happen to know that there were teams in our league accused of zip code violations and then the commissioner looked into them and none of them were true. People don't realize how many teams Falls Church or other zip codes are allowed to play for and assume cheating. It's kind of annoying. I will also say that in the younger grades that for the most part the AAU teams split up for county and it makes it really fun as there are no real powerhouses.

Yeah a Falls Church kid could play for Vienna, McLean, Falls Church, Turnpike, FPC, James Lee, and probably more.

What zip code is zoned for all those different places? Usually each zip code just has 2 or maybe 3 choices.

Here's the full list. PP was exaggerating, but 22182 can play for McLean, Vienna, Great Falls, or Reston. 22043 has McLean, Vienna and Falls Church.

http://www.fcybl.org/Page.asp?n=154934&org=FCYBL.COM

That’s not the only zip code in Falls Church

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I'm surprised that entire AAU teams play county. There are so many other leagues and frankly the competition would be stronger if they were playing other AAU teams. That doesn't occur in the younger grades. No offense but it signals to me that the AAU team isn't very good if they are staying together to play against county teams that by design don't play together year round (except for Arlington/Gainesville). Is it really an entire team and coach or is it more like four players and their impact is too great?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised that entire AAU teams play county. There are so many other leagues and frankly the competition would be stronger if they were playing other AAU teams. That doesn't occur in the younger grades. No offense but it signals to me that the AAU team isn't very good if they are staying together to play against county teams that by design don't play together year round (except for Arlington/Gainesville). Is it really an entire team and coach or is it more like four players and their impact is too great?

Gainesville is entire teams b/c they don't have to worry about zip codes.

This league is much better run then most of the AAU leagues and tournaments, way more affordable cost per game, well-organized with a schedule ahead of time, you don't have to travel out of town, and with better referees. To compare just for instance with the local Shots Up league where teams don't show up, the game minutes are shorter, and the referees are clearly under instruction to hurry games along and not call fouls, stop the game, etc. Plus you have to pay admission fees for AAU games and for this league, you don't.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised that entire AAU teams play county. There are so many other leagues and frankly the competition would be stronger if they were playing other AAU teams. That doesn't occur in the younger grades. No offense but it signals to me that the AAU team isn't very good if they are staying together to play against county teams that by design don't play together year round (except for Arlington/Gainesville). Is it really an entire team and coach or is it more like four players and their impact is too great?

Winter AAU in this area for younger kids is not great. You're either traveling out of state for tournaments or playing the same couple of teams over and over

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised that entire AAU teams play county. There are so many other leagues and frankly the competition would be stronger if they were playing other AAU teams. That doesn't occur in the younger grades. No offense but it signals to me that the AAU team isn't very good if they are staying together to play against county teams that by design don't play together year round (except for Arlington/Gainesville). Is it really an entire team and coach or is it more like four players and their impact is too great?

Gainesville is entire teams b/c they don't have to worry about zip codes.

This league is much better run then most of the AAU leagues and tournaments, way more affordable cost per game, well-organized with a schedule ahead of time, you don't have to travel out of town, and with better referees. To compare just for instance with the local Shots Up league where teams don't show up, the game minutes are shorter, and the referees are clearly under instruction to hurry games along and not call fouls, stop the game, etc. Plus you have to pay admission fees for AAU games and for this league, you don't.

The refs are the same and they rush in the fcybl just as thy do in Shotsup. They get paid by the game. FCYBL is much better organized than the AAU tournaments and leagues like Shotsup, Hokies, etc.
That 7th grade Gainesville team really isn’t even all that. They have the kid that’s like Shaquille O’Neal on the team who is probably the most athletically dominant player in all of the FCYBL, but if they didn’t have him they may not even have won any games.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised that entire AAU teams play county. There are so many other leagues and frankly the competition would be stronger if they were playing other AAU teams. That doesn't occur in the younger grades. No offense but it signals to me that the AAU team isn't very good if they are staying together to play against county teams that by design don't play together year round (except for Arlington/Gainesville). Is it really an entire team and coach or is it more like four players and their impact is too great?

Gainesville is entire teams b/c they don't have to worry about zip codes.

This league is much better run then most of the AAU leagues and tournaments, way more affordable cost per game, well-organized with a schedule ahead of time, you don't have to travel out of town, and with better referees. To compare just for instance with the local Shots Up league where teams don't show up, the game minutes are shorter, and the referees are clearly under instruction to hurry games along and not call fouls, stop the game, etc. Plus you have to pay admission fees for AAU games and for this league, you don't.

The refs are the same and they rush in the fcybl just as thy do in Shotsup. They get paid by the game. FCYBL is much better organized than the AAU tournaments and leagues like Shotsup, Hokies, etc.
That 7th grade Gainesville team really isn’t even all that. They have the kid that’s like Shaquille O’Neal on the team who is probably the most athletically dominant player in all of the FCYBL, but if they didn’t have him they may not even have won any games.

OMG, get over it already. Didn't four kids from that team make all-county? They would have won some games regardless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised that entire AAU teams play county. There are so many other leagues and frankly the competition would be stronger if they were playing other AAU teams. That doesn't occur in the younger grades. No offense but it signals to me that the AAU team isn't very good if they are staying together to play against county teams that by design don't play together year round (except for Arlington/Gainesville). Is it really an entire team and coach or is it more like four players and their impact is too great?

Gainesville is entire teams b/c they don't have to worry about zip codes.

This league is much better run then most of the AAU leagues and tournaments, way more affordable cost per game, well-organized with a schedule ahead of time, you don't have to travel out of town, and with better referees. To compare just for instance with the local Shots Up league where teams don't show up, the game minutes are shorter, and the referees are clearly under instruction to hurry games along and not call fouls, stop the game, etc. Plus you have to pay admission fees for AAU games and for this league, you don't.

The refs are the same and they rush in the fcybl just as thy do in Shotsup. They get paid by the game. FCYBL is much better organized than the AAU tournaments and leagues like Shotsup, Hokies, etc.
That 7th grade Gainesville team really isn’t even all that. They have the kid that’s like Shaquille O’Neal on the team who is probably the most athletically dominant player in all of the FCYBL, but if they didn’t have him they may not even have won any games.

Without him, they are in the lower part of the division.

OMG, get over it already. Didn't four kids from that team make all-county? They would have won some games regardless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised that entire AAU teams play county. There are so many other leagues and frankly the competition would be stronger if they were playing other AAU teams. That doesn't occur in the younger grades. No offense but it signals to me that the AAU team isn't very good if they are staying together to play against county teams that by design don't play together year round (except for Arlington/Gainesville). Is it really an entire team and coach or is it more like four players and their impact is too great?

Gainesville is entire teams b/c they don't have to worry about zip codes.

This league is much better run then most of the AAU leagues and tournaments, way more affordable cost per game, well-organized with a schedule ahead of time, you don't have to travel out of town, and with better referees. To compare just for instance with the local Shots Up league where teams don't show up, the game minutes are shorter, and the referees are clearly under instruction to hurry games along and not call fouls, stop the game, etc. Plus you have to pay admission fees for AAU games and for this league, you don't.

The refs are the same and they rush in the fcybl just as thy do in Shotsup. They get paid by the game. FCYBL is much better organized than the AAU tournaments and leagues like Shotsup, Hokies, etc.
That 7th grade Gainesville team really isn’t even all that. They have the kid that’s like Shaquille O’Neal on the team who is probably the most athletically dominant player in all of the FCYBL, but if they didn’t have him they may not even have won any games.

Without him, they are in the lower part of the division.

OMG, get over it already. Didn't four kids from that team make all-county? They would have won some games regardless.

Dude, we get it. Your kid is the next Shaq, and was totally wronged by his coach and the universe.