Incident on FCPS middle school bus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

What if someone you worked with, who also lived in your area as would be the case with kids attending the same school, attacked you at work? You wouldn’t file charges and seek a restraining order? Wowwwww.

Kids in middle school after one incident? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.

I watched the video. It was terrible behavior and it was good that she was punished. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

But a restraining order is an overreaction in this scenario.

[Anonymous]

Why isn't the attacker expelled? The judge is shocked

[Anonymous]

FCPS should be ashamed of itself. That kid should be EXPELLED and, frankly, put where ever bad kids go ("Juvie" or whatever it's called now.

And if the kid is disobeying the protective order then it needs to be enforced. Arrest the parents.

And the family should sue the sh-- out of the school.

[Anonymous]

Attacker should be expelled and put in the alternative school to avoid her attacking other children

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's time to make the parents of these behavior problem kids get more involved and be inconvenienced. This girl should not be in a mainstream setting, nor should she be allowed on a bus. If the parents don't want her to be in a specialized setting, the school should be allowed to overrule them.

I have a kid with special needs and the school doesn't hesitate to inconvenience me for stupid crap.This girl's parents should have to drive her back and forth to a behavior based program they can't "opt" her out of.

Agreed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

What if someone you worked with, who also lived in your area as would be the case with kids attending the same school, attacked you at work? You wouldn’t file charges and seek a restraining order? Wowwwww.

Kids in middle school after one incident? No.

So you would be totally cool with this happening to you child and the school taking no protective action?

and this was not one incident. This girl had bullied him before. She was also a LOT bigger than him

[Anonymous]

She needs to be in mandatory outpatient therapy. Oh wait, our government is not set up to offer that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

An overreaction? Oh honey. If that were my kid, it would be an underreaction. I'd bring a metaphorical flamethrower to that place and that family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents fail to parent.

Ridiculous statement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.

I watched the video. It was terrible behavior and it was good that she was punished. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

But a restraining order is an overreaction in this scenario.

WTF? That is an approach you take when you have a student cheat on a math quiz. This was a violent assault and so far beyond the norm for behavior that more must be done to protect the innocent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.

I watched the video. It was terrible behavior and it was good that she was punished. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

But a restraining order is an overreaction in this scenario.

WTF? That is an approach you take when you have a student cheat on a math quiz. This was a violent assault and so far beyond the norm for behavior that more must be done to protect the innocent.

this isn't aassault, its assault and battery which is a felony

Assault
An assault and a battery are not the same thing. An assault in Virginia is where the defendant (1) engages in an overt act (2) with the intent to inflict bodily harm and (3) has the present ability to inflict such harm. Alternatively, an assault can occur where the Defendant (1) engages in an overt act (2) intended to place the victim in fear or apprehension of bodily harm and (3) creates such reasonable fear or apprehension in the victim.

Words alone are not sufficient to find someone guilty of misdemeanor assault. However there is no requirement that the victim actually be physically touched for him to be assaulted.

Battery
A battery is a willful or unlawful touching of another. An accidental touching is not a battery, so long as it was not done recklessly. The touching does not need to result in injury, nor does the defendant have to intend to do actual harm to the victim, a battery may be found where it was done in the spirit or rudeness or insult. A battery and an assault mainly differ in that an assault does not actually require the defendant to come into contact with the victim.

Spitting on another person does constitute a battery if done in a rude, insolent and angry manner. Even flashing a laser beam in another person's eye can constitute a battery.

Assault as a Hate Crime Resulting in Injury
Class 6 felony
Maximum fine of $2500
Maximum of 5 years of jail
Minimum of 6 months in jail, 30 days mandatory minimum

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.

I watched the video. It was terrible behavior and it was good that she was punished. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

But a restraining order is an overreaction in this scenario.

LOL you have got to be kidding.

A kid capable of this type of assault has bigger issue and does not simply "learn" their lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

What if someone you worked with, who also lived in your area as would be the case with kids attending the same school, attacked you at work? You wouldn’t file charges and seek a restraining order? Wowwwww.

Kids in middle school after one incident? No.

So you would be totally cool with this happening to you child and the school taking no protective action?

and this was not one incident. This girl had bullied him before. She was also a LOT bigger than him

Huh? The school can take action without a court-ordered restraining order.

There was a physical incident before?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What did this kid say to her? Violence isn't acceptable and it is a good thing she was punished, but I also find it hard to believe it came out of nowhere.

It's worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

One child was suspended and the other was not. One child was granted a protective order. Watching the attack, the child who was strangled did not seem to be doing much to stop the attack, they were slapping away the girls hands and that is about it. The news article says that the girl had bullied this child before.

You are right, we don't know what was said before hand but I would guess that the judge asked those questions and that the school asked those questions. No one has rushed out to post "the other kid used unacceptable language."

Some kids are mean and bully other kids. It happens. The school should handle it early on but when it becomes assault, the kid who assaulted another kid should be punished. The girl was suspended. Hopefully she is not allowed on the bus, I don't think the story addresses that. They said that the boy sees her at school and that they pass each other but I don't remember it saying anything about the bus.

A child assaulting another child is serious. That 6 year old in Newport News had tried to strangle his K Teacher, was trying to whip kids on the playground, and broke the Teachers phone the very week he shot his Teacher. Not every bully or out of control kid ends up shooting someone but the behavior tends to escalate and needs to be addressed. The victim should be able to feel safe at school. The girl should be moved to a different school, preferably one where she is required to attend something to deal with her aggression.

Yes, she was punished for her actions, which were wrong.

The boy's family demanded a restraining order - a ridiculous overreaction.

Nevertheless, it's still worth understanding what happened prior to the incident.

Can you explain how you possibly think a restraining order was an overreaction? Did you watch the video? There is no way you have kids if you think that’s an overreaction. Or you have the problem kids.

I watched the video. It was terrible behavior and it was good that she was punished. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

But a restraining order is an overreaction in this scenario.

LOL you have got to be kidding.

A kid capable of this type of assault has bigger issue and does not simply "learn" their lesson.

What bigger issue does this kid have?

What happened immediately before this incident? Was she provoked?