FCPS Grading and SIS Vent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delayed grading is well-known issue in FCPS. It directly harms students, who need feedback in order to learn. But the situation will never improve because there are no repercussions for the offending teachers. And teachers will get extremely defensive if the topic is even broached here turning an appeal for more timely grading into some type of "anti-teacher" position. Watch how quickly this thread derails.

The kicker is that some teachers are great with on-time grading, proving that it can indeed be done by those teachers who prioritize providing feedback to students.

You post almost the exact same thing on every thread. Just stop, or start directing positive, realistic solutions to the people who have the ability to change things. What do you want to have happen? Teachers who don't grade on time get...detention? (I'm sure a day off to grade would be lovely!) They get fired? (I bet a revolving door of subs will grade on time!) They get fined? (They'll quit, see: sub issue)

I agree, it's an issue, but penalizing teachers isn't going to solve anything. The whole system needs to be overhauled. The teachers who grade on time ALL are doing work on nights and weekends. If that is the expectation for teachers then I don't know why anyone is going into the profession. It should be doable in an 8 hour work day. States where grades are uniformly in on time have powerful unions that protect planning time, class sizes, and provide usable curriculum so planning time doesn't have to be 99% planning, some can be grading. FCPS has none of that.

(Not a teacher, but many out of state teachers amongst my siblings and their spouses)

And there it is.

The defense of teacher post? Or the post that exposes what a small-minded idiot you are in proposing “repercussions for offending teachers.” God save us.

There are repercussions for my High School kids for not turning in work on time, why not held teachers to the same standards???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess i just don't get the burning desire to check gradebook... and we know report cards come out two weeks after the quarter ends. It has always been this way, so I don't really see the issue.

The issues is these people need to complain about something-here it is

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do ES parents have to suffer because of how long it takes to get high school grades done? Why can't they be separate?

WAAHHH!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do ES parents have to suffer because of how long it takes to get high school grades done? Why can't they be separate?

WAAHHH!

+1, no ES parent is suffering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are the kids' assignments and tests not on Schoology? For us anyway, you can see what's going on, and if needed, check in with the kid to see if they're doing everything on time/how their grades are going.

No, schoolology doesn’t hold everything at our elementary school. It’s worse than third world. No textbooks, no penmenship, no great Fundations phonics program, no up to date learning management system, random work sheets boot-legged from home school websites, no syllabus, …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Delayed grading is well-known issue in FCPS. It directly harms students, who need feedback in order to learn. But the situation will never improve because there are no repercussions for the offending teachers. And teachers will get extremely defensive if the topic is even broached here turning an appeal for more timely grading into some type of "anti-teacher" position. Watch how quickly this thread derails.

The kicker is that some teachers are great with on-time grading, proving that it can indeed be done by those teachers who prioritize providing feedback to students.

Everything is an issue for FCPS parents. You sound ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess i just don't get the burning desire to check gradebook... and we know report cards come out two weeks after the quarter ends. It has always been this way, so I don't really see the issue.

You don't need to understand it. There are many reasons -from nosiness, to keeping kids with particular needs on track, to teachers not having entered grades for many weeks- why a parent may want to have that access. And it's really none of your concern what those reasons are.

Well, clearly just because you want something doesn’t mean you’re going to get it.

You can't always get what you want. But, if you try sometime, you just might find, you get what you need.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the kids' assignments and tests not on Schoology? For us anyway, you can see what's going on, and if needed, check in with the kid to see if they're doing everything on time/how their grades are going.

No, schoolology doesn’t hold everything at our elementary school. It’s worse than third world. No textbooks, no penmenship, no great Fundations phonics program, no up to date learning management system, random work sheets boot-legged from home school websites, no syllabus, …

ES Teachers aren’t required to use Schoology to post anything. Time to relax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the kids' assignments and tests not on Schoology? For us anyway, you can see what's going on, and if needed, check in with the kid to see if they're doing everything on time/how their grades are going.

No, schoolology doesn’t hold everything at our elementary school. It’s worse than third world. No textbooks, no penmenship, no great Fundations phonics program, no up to date learning management system, random work sheets boot-legged from home school websites, no syllabus, …

You forget no spelling! Assessments are about one-third of the school year.

[Anonymous]

They are trying to delay the parent emails and conference requests. After 2 weeks the teachers are in new units and quizzing new concepts so it deflects the old topics which are well in the past.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are trying to delay the parent emails and conference requests. After 2 weeks the teachers are in new units and quizzing new concepts so it deflects the old topics which are well in the past.

Correct. It falls of the parent radar in two weeks. Way less parents even bother to look it up at that point. Whereas if they open it right after the 4 days off and the early release 5th day, then it’s fresh in the parents’s head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are trying to delay the parent emails and conference requests. After 2 weeks the teachers are in new units and quizzing new concepts so it deflects the old topics which are well in the past.

Correct. It falls of the parent radar in two weeks. Way less parents even bother to look it up at that point. Whereas if they open it right after the 4 days off and the early release 5th day, then it’s fresh in the parents’s head.

We are constantly told to be involved with our kids and support their education, yet FCPS throws up obstacles in our way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are trying to delay the parent emails and conference requests. After 2 weeks the teachers are in new units and quizzing new concepts so it deflects the old topics which are well in the past.

Correct. It falls of the parent radar in two weeks. Way less parents even bother to look it up at that point. Whereas if they open it right after the 4 days off and the early release 5th day, then it’s fresh in the parents’s head. [/qu wote]

We are constantly told to be involved with our kids and support their education, yet FCPS throws up obstacles in our way.

And here is part of the problem FCPS is a giant obstacle for teachers as well... but the teachers take the blame and I'm telling you they are done. It's too much-parents coming at teachers constantly is too too much.
Also there is not a lot of support from home on behaviors.....guess what we spend most of our day doing-dealing with behaviors at school. Dealing with ridiculous unnecessary parent emails and complaints. GO FIND GATEHOUSE! Teachers are TIRED!!!!

[Anonymous]

For those of you still waiting for the grades to post, check the Documents tab in SIS. Paper version of grades has been posted.

But I do agree, it is appalling how long it takes teachers to get their act together. Imagine if your paychecks were delayed because you didn't do your job efficiently enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delayed grading is well-known issue in FCPS. It directly harms students, who need feedback in order to learn. But the situation will never improve because there are no repercussions for the offending teachers. And teachers will get extremely defensive if the topic is even broached here turning an appeal for more timely grading into some type of "anti-teacher" position. Watch how quickly this thread derails.

The kicker is that some teachers are great with on-time grading, proving that it can indeed be done by those teachers who prioritize providing feedback to students.

You post almost the exact same thing on every thread. Just stop, or start directing positive, realistic solutions to the people who have the ability to change things. What do you want to have happen? Teachers who don't grade on time get...detention? (I'm sure a day off to grade would be lovely!) They get fired? (I bet a revolving door of subs will grade on time!) They get fined? (They'll quit, see: sub issue)

I agree, it's an issue, but penalizing teachers isn't going to solve anything. The whole system needs to be overhauled. The teachers who grade on time ALL are doing work on nights and weekends. If that is the expectation for teachers then I don't know why anyone is going into the profession. It should be doable in an 8 hour work day. States where grades are uniformly in on time have powerful unions that protect planning time, class sizes, and provide usable curriculum so planning time doesn't have to be 99% planning, some can be grading. FCPS has none of that.

(Not a teacher, but many out of state teachers amongst my siblings and their spouses)

And there it is.

NP: do you ever think you hear the same response repeatedly from multiple posters because it’s true?

That wouldn’t occur to her/ him. Stupid people are not flexible thinkers capable of self-awareness. They find a bullhorn and shout incendiary things and make ridiculous proposals, like building a wall between Mexico to keep out immigrants.

Sounds like a specific party that's banning books....keep them ignorant is their way!