FCPS Grading and SIS Vent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SIS, not Schoology, is where we check for missing assignments and grades on things that are for the current quarter. My son is also allowed a retest if he gets below an 80. But, we don’t know how he did and if he needs to retest because SIS is closed. It’s very frustrating

Maybe he should study more to ensure he doesn’t need a retake in the first place. How does he normally do on tests? Do you assist by asking him questions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SIS, not Schoology, is where we check for missing assignments and grades on things that are for the current quarter. My son is also allowed a retest if he gets below an 80. But, we don’t know how he did and if he needs to retest because SIS is closed. It’s very frustrating

Maybe he should study more to ensure he doesn’t need a retake in the first place. How does he normally do on tests? Do you assist by asking him questions?

IKR? Every kid should get 100 on everything. If not, then just write them off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are the kids' assignments and tests not on Schoology? For us anyway, you can see what's going on, and if needed, check in with the kid to see if they're doing everything on time/how their grades are going.

I have 3 kids in HS in fcps. None of their teachers post assignment or test grades on schoology. Many of them don't post homework or classwork there, either.

Same experience here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess i just don't get the burning desire to check gradebook... and we know report cards come out two weeks after the quarter ends. It has always been this way, so I don't really see the issue.

You don't need to understand it. There are many reasons -from nosiness, to keeping kids with particular needs on track, to teachers not having entered grades for many weeks- why a parent may want to have that access. And it's really none of your concern what those reasons are.

Well, clearly just because you want something doesn’t mean you’re going to get it.

Well, I don't need it. But others clearly do. Are you always this big of a baby?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess i just don't get the burning desire to check gradebook... and we know report cards come out two weeks after the quarter ends. It has always been this way, so I don't really see the issue.

You don't need to understand it. There are many reasons -from nosiness, to keeping kids with particular needs on track, to teachers not having entered grades for many weeks- why a parent may want to have that access. And it's really none of your concern what those reasons are.

Well, luckily I didn't ask for anyone's reasons. I just said I don't get the big deal. Sorry you get all chapped when people see things differently than you.

Schoology should have all the assignments anyway.

A) YOU are the one that didn't bother to "see things differently." You just assumed people shouldn't need it. And they do.
B) Schoology does not, as multiple people have posted about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel pretty lucky that my kid’s middle school teachers have kept up with grading. I knew my kid’s report card grades before SIS closed as every assignment was handed in on time and graded already.

That's how it was for us in Middle School as well, then it changed for HS (where grades really matter) You'll see!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel pretty lucky that my kid’s middle school teachers have kept up with grading. I knew my kid’s report card grades before SIS closed as every assignment was handed in on time and graded already.

That's how it was for us in Middle School as well, then it changed for HS (where grades really matter) You'll see!

Depends--our HS has been fine too with grading too. Once in awhile a teacher with harder to grade assignments (e.g. English) will take longer, but they usually balance it out with quickly graded shorter assignments. No complaints here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel pretty lucky that my kid’s middle school teachers have kept up with grading. I knew my kid’s report card grades before SIS closed as every assignment was handed in on time and graded already.

That's how it was for us in Middle School as well, then it changed for HS (where grades really matter) You'll see!

I hope not but based on what I’m reading here, I will keep my expectations lower.

[Anonymous]

Delayed grading is well-known issue in FCPS. It directly harms students, who need feedback in order to learn. But the situation will never improve because there are no repercussions for the offending teachers. And teachers will get extremely defensive if the topic is even broached here turning an appeal for more timely grading into some type of "anti-teacher" position. Watch how quickly this thread derails.

The kicker is that some teachers are great with on-time grading, proving that it can indeed be done by those teachers who prioritize providing feedback to students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Delayed grading is well-known issue in FCPS. It directly harms students, who need feedback in order to learn. But the situation will never improve because there are no repercussions for the offending teachers. And teachers will get extremely defensive if the topic is even broached here turning an appeal for more timely grading into some type of "anti-teacher" position. Watch how quickly this thread derails.

The kicker is that some teachers are great with on-time grading, proving that it can indeed be done by those teachers who prioritize providing feedback to students.

You post almost the exact same thing on every thread. Just stop, or start directing positive, realistic solutions to the people who have the ability to change things. What do you want to have happen? Teachers who don't grade on time get...detention? (I'm sure a day off to grade would be lovely!) They get fired? (I bet a revolving door of subs will grade on time!) They get fined? (They'll quit, see: sub issue)

I agree, it's an issue, but penalizing teachers isn't going to solve anything. The whole system needs to be overhauled. The teachers who grade on time ALL are doing work on nights and weekends. If that is the expectation for teachers then I don't know why anyone is going into the profession. It should be doable in an 8 hour work day. States where grades are uniformly in on time have powerful unions that protect planning time, class sizes, and provide usable curriculum so planning time doesn't have to be 99% planning, some can be grading. FCPS has none of that.

(Not a teacher, but many out of state teachers amongst my siblings and their spouses)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delayed grading is well-known issue in FCPS. It directly harms students, who need feedback in order to learn. But the situation will never improve because there are no repercussions for the offending teachers. And teachers will get extremely defensive if the topic is even broached here turning an appeal for more timely grading into some type of "anti-teacher" position. Watch how quickly this thread derails.

The kicker is that some teachers are great with on-time grading, proving that it can indeed be done by those teachers who prioritize providing feedback to students.

You post almost the exact same thing on every thread. Just stop, or start directing positive, realistic solutions to the people who have the ability to change things. What do you want to have happen? Teachers who don't grade on time get...detention? (I'm sure a day off to grade would be lovely!) They get fired? (I bet a revolving door of subs will grade on time!) They get fined? (They'll quit, see: sub issue)

I agree, it's an issue, but penalizing teachers isn't going to solve anything. The whole system needs to be overhauled. The teachers who grade on time ALL are doing work on nights and weekends. If that is the expectation for teachers then I don't know why anyone is going into the profession. It should be doable in an 8 hour work day. States where grades are uniformly in on time have powerful unions that protect planning time, class sizes, and provide usable curriculum so planning time doesn't have to be 99% planning, some can be grading. FCPS has none of that.

(Not a teacher, but many out of state teachers amongst my siblings and their spouses)

And there it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delayed grading is well-known issue in FCPS. It directly harms students, who need feedback in order to learn. But the situation will never improve because there are no repercussions for the offending teachers. And teachers will get extremely defensive if the topic is even broached here turning an appeal for more timely grading into some type of "anti-teacher" position. Watch how quickly this thread derails.

The kicker is that some teachers are great with on-time grading, proving that it can indeed be done by those teachers who prioritize providing feedback to students.

You post almost the exact same thing on every thread. Just stop, or start directing positive, realistic solutions to the people who have the ability to change things. What do you want to have happen? Teachers who don't grade on time get...detention? (I'm sure a day off to grade would be lovely!) They get fired? (I bet a revolving door of subs will grade on time!) They get fined? (They'll quit, see: sub issue)

I agree, it's an issue, but penalizing teachers isn't going to solve anything. The whole system needs to be overhauled. The teachers who grade on time ALL are doing work on nights and weekends. If that is the expectation for teachers then I don't know why anyone is going into the profession. It should be doable in an 8 hour work day. States where grades are uniformly in on time have powerful unions that protect planning time, class sizes, and provide usable curriculum so planning time doesn't have to be 99% planning, some can be grading. FCPS has none of that.

(Not a teacher, but many out of state teachers amongst my siblings and their spouses)

And there it is.

NP: do you ever think you hear the same response repeatedly from multiple posters because it’s true?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delayed grading is well-known issue in FCPS. It directly harms students, who need feedback in order to learn. But the situation will never improve because there are no repercussions for the offending teachers. And teachers will get extremely defensive if the topic is even broached here turning an appeal for more timely grading into some type of "anti-teacher" position. Watch how quickly this thread derails.

The kicker is that some teachers are great with on-time grading, proving that it can indeed be done by those teachers who prioritize providing feedback to students.

You post almost the exact same thing on every thread. Just stop, or start directing positive, realistic solutions to the people who have the ability to change things. What do you want to have happen? Teachers who don't grade on time get...detention? (I'm sure a day off to grade would be lovely!) They get fired? (I bet a revolving door of subs will grade on time!) They get fined? (They'll quit, see: sub issue)

I agree, it's an issue, but penalizing teachers isn't going to solve anything. The whole system needs to be overhauled. The teachers who grade on time ALL are doing work on nights and weekends. If that is the expectation for teachers then I don't know why anyone is going into the profession. It should be doable in an 8 hour work day. States where grades are uniformly in on time have powerful unions that protect planning time, class sizes, and provide usable curriculum so planning time doesn't have to be 99% planning, some can be grading. FCPS has none of that.

(Not a teacher, but many out of state teachers amongst my siblings and their spouses)

And there it is.

The defense of teacher post? Or the post that exposes what a small-minded idiot you are in proposing “repercussions for offending teachers.” God save us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delayed grading is well-known issue in FCPS. It directly harms students, who need feedback in order to learn. But the situation will never improve because there are no repercussions for the offending teachers. And teachers will get extremely defensive if the topic is even broached here turning an appeal for more timely grading into some type of "anti-teacher" position. Watch how quickly this thread derails.

The kicker is that some teachers are great with on-time grading, proving that it can indeed be done by those teachers who prioritize providing feedback to students.

You post almost the exact same thing on every thread. Just stop, or start directing positive, realistic solutions to the people who have the ability to change things. What do you want to have happen? Teachers who don't grade on time get...detention? (I'm sure a day off to grade would be lovely!) They get fired? (I bet a revolving door of subs will grade on time!) They get fined? (They'll quit, see: sub issue)

I agree, it's an issue, but penalizing teachers isn't going to solve anything. The whole system needs to be overhauled. The teachers who grade on time ALL are doing work on nights and weekends. If that is the expectation for teachers then I don't know why anyone is going into the profession. It should be doable in an 8 hour work day. States where grades are uniformly in on time have powerful unions that protect planning time, class sizes, and provide usable curriculum so planning time doesn't have to be 99% planning, some can be grading. FCPS has none of that.

(Not a teacher, but many out of state teachers amongst my siblings and their spouses)

And there it is.

NP: do you ever think you hear the same response repeatedly from multiple posters because it’s true?

That wouldn’t occur to her/ him. Stupid people are not flexible thinkers capable of self-awareness. They find a bullhorn and shout incendiary things and make ridiculous proposals, like building a wall between Mexico to keep out immigrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delayed grading is well-known issue in FCPS. It directly harms students, who need feedback in order to learn. But the situation will never improve because there are no repercussions for the offending teachers. And teachers will get extremely defensive if the topic is even broached here turning an appeal for more timely grading into some type of "anti-teacher" position. Watch how quickly this thread derails.

The kicker is that some teachers are great with on-time grading, proving that it can indeed be done by those teachers who prioritize providing feedback to students.

You post almost the exact same thing on every thread. Just stop, or start directing positive, realistic solutions to the people who have the ability to change things. What do you want to have happen? Teachers who don't grade on time get...detention? (I'm sure a day off to grade would be lovely!) They get fired? (I bet a revolving door of subs will grade on time!) They get fined? (They'll quit, see: sub issue)

I agree, it's an issue, but penalizing teachers isn't going to solve anything. The whole system needs to be overhauled. The teachers who grade on time ALL are doing work on nights and weekends. If that is the expectation for teachers then I don't know why anyone is going into the profession. It should be doable in an 8 hour work day. States where grades are uniformly in on time have powerful unions that protect planning time, class sizes, and provide usable curriculum so planning time doesn't have to be 99% planning, some can be grading. FCPS has none of that.

(Not a teacher, but many out of state teachers amongst my siblings and their spouses)

And there it is.

NP: do you ever think you hear the same response repeatedly from multiple posters because it’s true?

That wouldn’t occur to her/ him. Stupid people are not flexible thinkers capable of self-awareness. They find a bullhorn and shout incendiary things and make ridiculous proposals, like building a wall between Mexico to keep out immigrants.

Sorry - between Mexico and Texas