What’s up with the Harry and Meghan Netflix docu series?

Anonymous
Say what you want about Meghan and Harry (and people surely do have some strong opinions!) but she lost me when she told the story about someone at the Lion King premier telling her that South Africans danced in the street like they did when Nelson Mandela was freed when Meghan and Harry got married. I really laughed out loud on that one. She had to have known how that sounded.

Also... their foundation's website. As someone who works in this realm, I've truly never seen a foundation with a website like this - This is the picture you choose to put on your website for Advocating for Equitable and Affordable Access to Childcare (https://archewell.com/news/advocating-equitable-affordable-access-to-childcare/)? This is what you choose for Celebrating the Power of Women (https://archewell.com/news/celebrating-the-power-of-women/)? This one for Investing in Women (https://archewell.com/news/ving-project-grant-1-million-women-in-need/)? The fact of the matter is that when you're putting together the face of your foundation, choosing to focus it on photoshoots of yourself rather than focusing on other people is just bizarre.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s strange that the show is supposed to be out in less than 2 weeks and we still don’t know what the name is yet. I am curious to watch though and hoping it does come out on the 8th.


I thought it was "At Home with Duke and Duchess of Sussex?" I may be wrong.

I believe it was a fallback after it became obvious to Netflix that it's impossible to get anything with actual substance from these two.

I see the growth of our boy indeed.


Funny how they want nothing to do with the family, but cling to the titles for dear life.


What is evidence of your second claim? Their titles are their titles… of course you can take issue with the system as a whole, but it is what it is. Prince Harry especially… those titles are literally a part of his blood.

The first claim is easily debunkable (they seem to have done quite a fair amount to say that they *want* to fix their relationship with the BRF… but I have a hunch that you don’t want to hear that.

Fix their relationship by trashing their family every time they open their mouths? LOL.




They've monetized the family dysfunction, which is crass and gross. Their number one priority in life is being rich. Why do people put them on a pedestal? It's baffling.


How have they monetized it? They were not paid for their Oprah interview.


You're joking, right? Meghan drops all sorts of digs at the RF on her ridiculous podcast, and obviously Harry's memoir is the paradigmatic example of him trying to cash in on the family dysfunction.


Meghan has not mentioned the Royal Family in her podcast. But go on, keep reading those tabloid headlines / Twitter hate-bots...



Incorrect. In the first episode, she specifically mentions a fire in her son's nursery and then throws shade on the RF for expecting her to go to her next engagement. https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/meghan-markle-archie-nursery-fire-archetypes-podcast


I think you can have reservations about the "firm" but not necessarily the family... right? Or are those two interchangeable.
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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about Meghan and Harry (and people surely do have some strong opinions!) but she lost me when she told the story about someone at the Lion King premier telling her that South Africans danced in the street like they did when Nelson Mandela was freed when Meghan and Harry got married. I really laughed out loud on that one. She had to have known how that sounded.

Also... their foundation's website. As someone who works in this realm, I've truly never seen a foundation with a website like this - This is the picture you choose to put on your website for Advocating for Equitable and Affordable Access to Childcare (https://archewell.com/news/advocating-equitable-affordable-access-to-childcare/)? This is what you choose for Celebrating the Power of Women (https://archewell.com/news/celebrating-the-power-of-women/)? This one for Investing in Women (https://archewell.com/news/ving-project-grant-1-million-women-in-need/)? The fact of the matter is that when you're putting together the face of your foundation, choosing to focus it on photoshoots of yourself rather than focusing on other people is just bizarre.


Genuine question, do you think Meghan is the one who chooses these pictures? I'm genuinely asking because I don't know myself.

And to the website's credit, there are a lot of those same articles that don't feature either of the couple at all.
https://archewell.com/news/scottys-little-soldiers/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-and-harvards-berkman-klein-center-for-internet-society-are-investing-in-our-digital-future/
https://archewell.com/news/relief-for-flooding-in-nigeria/
https://archewell.com/news/supporting-families-forced-to-flee-afghanistan/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-kaboom-community-project-uvalde/
https://archewell.com/news/world-mental-health-day/

I guess it stands to reason that for a news site about them, it would make sense that they'd show up in some pictures.
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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about Meghan and Harry (and people surely do have some strong opinions!) but she lost me when she told the story about someone at the Lion King premier telling her that South Africans danced in the street like they did when Nelson Mandela was freed when Meghan and Harry got married. I really laughed out loud on that one. She had to have known how that sounded.

Also... their foundation's website. As someone who works in this realm, I've truly never seen a foundation with a website like this - This is the picture you choose to put on your website for Advocating for Equitable and Affordable Access to Childcare (https://archewell.com/news/advocating-equitable-affordable-access-to-childcare/)? This is what you choose for Celebrating the Power of Women (https://archewell.com/news/celebrating-the-power-of-women/)? This one for Investing in Women (https://archewell.com/news/ving-project-grant-1-million-women-in-need/)? The fact of the matter is that when you're putting together the face of your foundation, choosing to focus it on photoshoots of yourself rather than focusing on other people is just bizarre.


Genuine question, do you think Meghan is the one who chooses these pictures? I'm genuinely asking because I don't know myself.

And to the website's credit, there are a lot of those same articles that don't feature either of the couple at all.
https://archewell.com/news/scottys-little-soldiers/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-and-harvards-berkman-klein-center-for-internet-society-are-investing-in-our-digital-future/
https://archewell.com/news/relief-for-flooding-in-nigeria/
https://archewell.com/news/supporting-families-forced-to-flee-afghanistan/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-kaboom-community-project-uvalde/
https://archewell.com/news/world-mental-health-day/

I guess it stands to reason that for a news site about them, it would make sense that they'd show up in some pictures.


They're the head of the organization, the buck stops with them. I'm not saying it's a huge moral flaw, it's just WEIRD. It doesn't really matter (to me) what the other photos contain because the ones that I linked are bizarre in and of themselves. It just doesn't make a good impression.
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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about Meghan and Harry (and people surely do have some strong opinions!) but she lost me when she told the story about someone at the Lion King premier telling her that South Africans danced in the street like they did when Nelson Mandela was freed when Meghan and Harry got married. I really laughed out loud on that one. She had to have known how that sounded.

Also... their foundation's website. As someone who works in this realm, I've truly never seen a foundation with a website like this - This is the picture you choose to put on your website for Advocating for Equitable and Affordable Access to Childcare (https://archewell.com/news/advocating-equitable-affordable-access-to-childcare/)? This is what you choose for Celebrating the Power of Women (https://archewell.com/news/celebrating-the-power-of-women/)? This one for Investing in Women (https://archewell.com/news/ving-project-grant-1-million-women-in-need/)? The fact of the matter is that when you're putting together the face of your foundation, choosing to focus it on photoshoots of yourself rather than focusing on other people is just bizarre.


Genuine question, do you think Meghan is the one who chooses these pictures? I'm genuinely asking because I don't know myself.

And to the website's credit, there are a lot of those same articles that don't feature either of the couple at all.
https://archewell.com/news/scottys-little-soldiers/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-and-harvards-berkman-klein-center-for-internet-society-are-investing-in-our-digital-future/
https://archewell.com/news/relief-for-flooding-in-nigeria/
https://archewell.com/news/supporting-families-forced-to-flee-afghanistan/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-kaboom-community-project-uvalde/
https://archewell.com/news/world-mental-health-day/

I guess it stands to reason that for a news site about them, it would make sense that they'd show up in some pictures.


They're the head of the organization, the buck stops with them. I'm not saying it's a huge moral flaw, it's just WEIRD. It doesn't really matter (to me) what the other photos contain because the ones that I linked are bizarre in and of themselves. It just doesn't make a good impression.


I meant to also include that I don't think it's weird that they/she are in the pictures. Of course I agree that their foundation's website that explains the work they are doing should include photos of them. It's the type of photos - these magazine photoshoots - that I think are weird and inappropriate. YMMV.
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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about Meghan and Harry (and people surely do have some strong opinions!) but she lost me when she told the story about someone at the Lion King premier telling her that South Africans danced in the street like they did when Nelson Mandela was freed when Meghan and Harry got married. I really laughed out loud on that one. She had to have known how that sounded.

Also... their foundation's website. As someone who works in this realm, I've truly never seen a foundation with a website like this - This is the picture you choose to put on your website for Advocating for Equitable and Affordable Access to Childcare (https://archewell.com/news/advocating-equitable-affordable-access-to-childcare/)? This is what you choose for Celebrating the Power of Women (https://archewell.com/news/celebrating-the-power-of-women/)? This one for Investing in Women (https://archewell.com/news/ving-project-grant-1-million-women-in-need/)? The fact of the matter is that when you're putting together the face of your foundation, choosing to focus it on photoshoots of yourself rather than focusing on other people is just bizarre.


Genuine question, do you think Meghan is the one who chooses these pictures? I'm genuinely asking because I don't know myself.

And to the website's credit, there are a lot of those same articles that don't feature either of the couple at all.
https://archewell.com/news/scottys-little-soldiers/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-and-harvards-berkman-klein-center-for-internet-society-are-investing-in-our-digital-future/
https://archewell.com/news/relief-for-flooding-in-nigeria/
https://archewell.com/news/supporting-families-forced-to-flee-afghanistan/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-kaboom-community-project-uvalde/
https://archewell.com/news/world-mental-health-day/

I guess it stands to reason that for a news site about them, it would make sense that they'd show up in some pictures.


They're the head of the organization, the buck stops with them. I'm not saying it's a huge moral flaw, it's just WEIRD. It doesn't really matter (to me) what the other photos contain because the ones that I linked are bizarre in and of themselves. It just doesn't make a good impression.


I meant to also include that I don't think it's weird that they/she are in the pictures. Of course I agree that their foundation's website that explains the work they are doing should include photos of them. It's the type of photos - these magazine photoshoots - that I think are weird and inappropriate. YMMV.


Sure, that's reasonable.

I'm predisposed to defending Meghan because the criticism/defamation/rumor-mongering/outright lies/vitriol/hatred that she and her husband get on a perpetual basis is so wildly disproportionate to her behavior and her faux pas. Full stop. It's basic schoolgirl bullying. I'm reminded of the Facebook group that Lady Gaga's peers made ridiculing her for thinking she'd be famous one day.
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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about Meghan and Harry (and people surely do have some strong opinions!) but she lost me when she told the story about someone at the Lion King premier telling her that South Africans danced in the street like they did when Nelson Mandela was freed when Meghan and Harry got married. I really laughed out loud on that one. She had to have known how that sounded.

Also... their foundation's website. As someone who works in this realm, I've truly never seen a foundation with a website like this - This is the picture you choose to put on your website for Advocating for Equitable and Affordable Access to Childcare (https://archewell.com/news/advocating-equitable-affordable-access-to-childcare/)? This is what you choose for Celebrating the Power of Women (https://archewell.com/news/celebrating-the-power-of-women/)? This one for Investing in Women (https://archewell.com/news/ving-project-grant-1-million-women-in-need/)? The fact of the matter is that when you're putting together the face of your foundation, choosing to focus it on photoshoots of yourself rather than focusing on other people is just bizarre.


Genuine question, do you think Meghan is the one who chooses these pictures? I'm genuinely asking because I don't know myself.

And to the website's credit, there are a lot of those same articles that don't feature either of the couple at all.
https://archewell.com/news/scottys-little-soldiers/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-and-harvards-berkman-klein-center-for-internet-society-are-investing-in-our-digital-future/
https://archewell.com/news/relief-for-flooding-in-nigeria/
https://archewell.com/news/supporting-families-forced-to-flee-afghanistan/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-kaboom-community-project-uvalde/
https://archewell.com/news/world-mental-health-day/

I guess it stands to reason that for a news site about them, it would make sense that they'd show up in some pictures.


They're the head of the organization, the buck stops with them. I'm not saying it's a huge moral flaw, it's just WEIRD. It doesn't really matter (to me) what the other photos contain because the ones that I linked are bizarre in and of themselves. It just doesn't make a good impression.


I meant to also include that I don't think it's weird that they/she are in the pictures. Of course I agree that their foundation's website that explains the work they are doing should include photos of them. It's the type of photos - these magazine photoshoots - that I think are weird and inappropriate. YMMV.


Sure, that's reasonable.

I'm predisposed to defending Meghan because the criticism/defamation/rumor-mongering/outright lies/vitriol/hatred that she and her husband get on a perpetual basis is so wildly disproportionate to her behavior and her faux pas. Full stop. It's basic schoolgirl bullying. I'm reminded of the Facebook group that Lady Gaga's peers made ridiculing her for thinking she'd be famous one day.


Sure, I can agree with that. As someone who lived in the UK, people sometimes think that Americans and British people are very similar because of our shared language but that's not the case. The culture, and especially the culture of the institution of the monarchy, is so different. She must have been completely out of her element and it is my belief that Harry did not prepare her enough. I find things they do distasteful but at the end of the day none of this is that deep.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s strange that the show is supposed to be out in less than 2 weeks and we still don’t know what the name is yet. I am curious to watch though and hoping it does come out on the 8th.


I thought it was "At Home with Duke and Duchess of Sussex?" I may be wrong.

I believe it was a fallback after it became obvious to Netflix that it's impossible to get anything with actual substance from these two.

I see the growth of our boy indeed.


Funny how they want nothing to do with the family, but cling to the titles for dear life.


What is evidence of your second claim? Their titles are their titles… of course you can take issue with the system as a whole, but it is what it is. Prince Harry especially… those titles are literally a part of his blood.

The first claim is easily debunkable (they seem to have done quite a fair amount to say that they *want* to fix their relationship with the BRF… but I have a hunch that you don’t want to hear that.

Fix their relationship by trashing their family every time they open their mouths? LOL.




They've monetized the family dysfunction, which is crass and gross. Their number one priority in life is being rich. Why do people put them on a pedestal? It's baffling.


How have they monetized it? They were not paid for their Oprah interview.


You're joking, right? Meghan drops all sorts of digs at the RF on her ridiculous podcast, and obviously Harry's memoir is the paradigmatic example of him trying to cash in on the family dysfunction.


Apparently the podcast is tanking. H&M need a win here.


Archetypes is 32nd out of 100 podcasts, per the link one of you posted here. What's [i]not
tanking, the 31st podcast??


Didn't it just win an award? It's been performing well across all metrics so I'm not sure why the hate-fans have been saying it's tanking.


I am not an expert on podcasts and how to rate their performance, but I would guess the "tanking" criticism comes from a combo of tons of money spent and lots of production staff (plus star power of course) and they are still not at the top of the charts. Like those big blockbuster movies that cost $100 million to produce and have an all star cast and are expected to blow up the box office....and then they tank.

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Spotify seems happy with it. :shrug:


Exactly.
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah again they are using the term Archetype incorrectly when every example the poor woman gives is a Stereotype ( Spotify is trying to double down with Oprah’s production company to generate more content from them. No one who isn’t a shallow sugar (the widely used term for the sycophants that support Meghan Markle) actually listens to this and enjoys it. It’s drivel and quite terrible.


I have never heard the term "shallow sugar," I think Meghan is fine, I neither support her or don't support her, I think everyone in the royal family is wrong actually, but I have listened to the podcast and enjoyed it. I listened to the Mariah Carey episode and thought it was very good.


I thought her episode with Mindy Kaling was fantastic.




The one with Constance Wu was fascinating.
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Spotify seems happy with it. :shrug:


Exactly.


OK but, of course Spotify is going to promote their own podcasts.
Anonymous
I feel like if Kate and William were more accomplished and charismatic there would be nowhere near as much hate on the Sussexes. It seems like a lot of the criticism is really aimed at the perception that they are trying to draw attention to themselves at the expense of the rest of the BRF. But the Tindalls also do the same thing but are just sort of uninteresting meatheads so it kind of slides by unnoticed.
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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about Meghan and Harry (and people surely do have some strong opinions!) but she lost me when she told the story about someone at the Lion King premier telling her that South Africans danced in the street like they did when Nelson Mandela was freed when Meghan and Harry got married. I really laughed out loud on that one. She had to have known how that sounded.

Also... their foundation's website. As someone who works in this realm, I've truly never seen a foundation with a website like this - This is the picture you choose to put on your website for Advocating for Equitable and Affordable Access to Childcare (https://archewell.com/news/advocating-equitable-affordable-access-to-childcare/)? This is what you choose for Celebrating the Power of Women (https://archewell.com/news/celebrating-the-power-of-women/)? This one for Investing in Women (https://archewell.com/news/ving-project-grant-1-million-women-in-need/)? The fact of the matter is that when you're putting together the face of your foundation, choosing to focus it on photoshoots of yourself rather than focusing on other people is just bizarre.


Genuine question, do you think Meghan is the one who chooses these pictures? I'm genuinely asking because I don't know myself.

And to the website's credit, there are a lot of those same articles that don't feature either of the couple at all.
https://archewell.com/news/scottys-little-soldiers/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-and-harvards-berkman-klein-center-for-internet-society-are-investing-in-our-digital-future/
https://archewell.com/news/relief-for-flooding-in-nigeria/
https://archewell.com/news/supporting-families-forced-to-flee-afghanistan/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-kaboom-community-project-uvalde/
https://archewell.com/news/world-mental-health-day/

I guess it stands to reason that for a news site about them, it would make sense that they'd show up in some pictures.


They're the head of the organization, the buck stops with them. I'm not saying it's a huge moral flaw, it's just WEIRD. It doesn't really matter (to me) what the other photos contain because the ones that I linked are bizarre in and of themselves. It just doesn't make a good impression.


+1 clearly they have a vision fot their foundation and it's fair to assume the overall website feel resonates with what they are going for.

And hence people draw the conclusion that they are mostly interested in promoting themselves.
Anonymous
Right. Mike Tindall literally is on a reality tv show. Can you imagine if Meghan had done the same?
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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about Meghan and Harry (and people surely do have some strong opinions!) but she lost me when she told the story about someone at the Lion King premier telling her that South Africans danced in the street like they did when Nelson Mandela was freed when Meghan and Harry got married. I really laughed out loud on that one. She had to have known how that sounded.

Also... their foundation's website. As someone who works in this realm, I've truly never seen a foundation with a website like this - This is the picture you choose to put on your website for Advocating for Equitable and Affordable Access to Childcare (https://archewell.com/news/advocating-equitable-affordable-access-to-childcare/)? This is what you choose for Celebrating the Power of Women (https://archewell.com/news/celebrating-the-power-of-women/)? This one for Investing in Women (https://archewell.com/news/ving-project-grant-1-million-women-in-need/)? The fact of the matter is that when you're putting together the face of your foundation, choosing to focus it on photoshoots of yourself rather than focusing on other people is just bizarre.


Genuine question, do you think Meghan is the one who chooses these pictures? I'm genuinely asking because I don't know myself.

And to the website's credit, there are a lot of those same articles that don't feature either of the couple at all.
https://archewell.com/news/scottys-little-soldiers/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-and-harvards-berkman-klein-center-for-internet-society-are-investing-in-our-digital-future/
https://archewell.com/news/relief-for-flooding-in-nigeria/
https://archewell.com/news/supporting-families-forced-to-flee-afghanistan/
https://archewell.com/news/archewell-foundation-kaboom-community-project-uvalde/
https://archewell.com/news/world-mental-health-day/

I guess it stands to reason that for a news site about them, it would make sense that they'd show up in some pictures.


They're the head of the organization, the buck stops with them. I'm not saying it's a huge moral flaw, it's just WEIRD. It doesn't really matter (to me) what the other photos contain because the ones that I linked are bizarre in and of themselves. It just doesn't make a good impression.


+1 clearly they have a vision fot their foundation and it's fair to assume the overall website feel resonates with what they are going for.

And hence people draw the conclusion that they are mostly interested in promoting themselves.


...Doesn't everyone in the Royal Family promote themselves?
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