More Bethesda Violent Crime: Shots Fired at Pike & Rose

[Anonymous]

Lol 2 targeted incidents in 4 years … = going down hill.

Okay?

[Anonymous]

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Nothing like a little fights, burnouts, and running over a pedestrian to cap the night at Pike and Rose. Here's details on the victim:

https://mocoshow.com/blog/woman-in-critical-condition-after-being-run-over-twice-in-hit-run-at-pike-rose/

Can we start referring to Pike and Rose as being in Rockville, since it does have a Rockville zipcode (2085x). It's giving the real Bethesda (2081x) a bad name!

Is this a real crime?

A girl is in the hospital with a broken pelvis and bleeding liver.

But not dead. That seems to be the standard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg people
The rate of murders in the US has gone up at an alarming rate. But, despite a media narrative to the contrary, this is a problem that afflicts Republican-run cities and states as much or more than the Democratic bastions.
In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.
8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century.

This is a false hood that keeps getting play. The locations are still blue run in those places you mention. These are by and large inner cities with this crime.

[Anonymous]

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LOL, yea let's compare it to a year nobody left there house and bars were closed. Jeez, such brain damage in the right.

That number of homicides is the highest the county has seen since the 90s.

But here's the thing. People don't experience violence equally. Most of the violence is occurring in small parts of the county -- equity focus areas. So when you "reform" the criminal justice system and take away both enforcement and consequences, you end up hurting African Americans for the most part. And then to a certain extent, Latino residents.

Please explain what specific steps have been taken in MoCo to take away enforcement and consequences?

Please read the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force findings, which call for a 50% reduction in force in Silver Spring and Wheaton specifically. It also calls for no arrests for “crimes against society,” eliminating drug enforcement officers, etc:
https://montgomerycountymd.gov/rps/Resources/Files/reports/rps-task-force-recommendations-report.pdf

This is the culture in which MCPD works, one in which the council and exec believe that crime will go down if there are fewer officers. Read the report. That language is all through it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Omg people
The rate of murders in the US has gone up at an alarming rate. But, despite a media narrative to the contrary, this is a problem that afflicts Republican-run cities and states as much or more than the Democratic bastions.
In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.
8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century.

This is a false hood that keeps getting play. The locations are still blue run in those places you mention. These are by and large inner cities with this crime.

No they are red Republican run states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

LOL, yea let's compare it to a year nobody left there house and bars were closed. Jeez, such brain damage in the right.

That number of homicides is the highest the county has seen since the 90s.

But here's the thing. People don't experience violence equally. Most of the violence is occurring in small parts of the county -- equity focus areas. So when you "reform" the criminal justice system and take away both enforcement and consequences, you end up hurting African Americans for the most part. And then to a certain extent, Latino residents.

Please explain what specific steps have been taken in MoCo to take away enforcement and consequences?

Please read the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force findings, which call for a 50% reduction in force in Silver Spring and Wheaton specifically. It also calls for no arrests for “crimes against society,” eliminating drug enforcement officers, etc:
https://montgomerycountymd.gov/rps/Resources/Files/reports/rps-task-force-recommendations-report.pdf

This is the culture in which MCPD works, one in which the council and exec believe that crime will go down if there are fewer officers. Read the report. That language is all through it.

So? This has not lead to a random person fighting at a bar in Rockville.

You’re mad about an anti-harassment plan? Have you read about the fiasco known as 3 strikes your out, which increased crime rates? Or stop and frisk? It’s like you people have no education on criminal laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

LOL, yea let's compare it to a year nobody left there house and bars were closed. Jeez, such brain damage in the right.

That number of homicides is the highest the county has seen since the 90s.

But here's the thing. People don't experience violence equally. Most of the violence is occurring in small parts of the county -- equity focus areas. So when you "reform" the criminal justice system and take away both enforcement and consequences, you end up hurting African Americans for the most part. And then to a certain extent, Latino residents.

Please explain what specific steps have been taken in MoCo to take away enforcement and consequences?

Please read the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force findings, which call for a 50% reduction in force in Silver Spring and Wheaton specifically. It also calls for no arrests for “crimes against society,” eliminating drug enforcement officers, etc:
https://montgomerycountymd.gov/rps/Resources/Files/reports/rps-task-force-recommendations-report.pdf

This is the culture in which MCPD works, one in which the council and exec believe that crime will go down if there are fewer officers. Read the report. That language is all through it.

So? This has not lead to a random person fighting at a bar in Rockville.

You’re mad about an anti-harassment plan? Have you read about the fiasco known as 3 strikes your out, which increased crime rates? Or stop and frisk? It’s like you people have no education on criminal laws.

I’m sure we’re very aware of 3 Strikes laws, etc. This is a rather educated forum. That’s why we are also aware there are options between 3 Strikes / Stop and Frisk / etc. and the 87 recommendations on that report that effectively REMOVE police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg people
The rate of murders in the US has gone up at an alarming rate. But, despite a media narrative to the contrary, this is a problem that afflicts Republican-run cities and states as much or more than the Democratic bastions.
In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.
8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century.

Hahahahaha

Please cite all these “republican-run” cities

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

LOL, yea let's compare it to a year nobody left there house and bars were closed. Jeez, such brain damage in the right.

That number of homicides is the highest the county has seen since the 90s.

But here's the thing. People don't experience violence equally. Most of the violence is occurring in small parts of the county -- equity focus areas. So when you "reform" the criminal justice system and take away both enforcement and consequences, you end up hurting African Americans for the most part. And then to a certain extent, Latino residents.

Please explain what specific steps have been taken in MoCo to take away enforcement and consequences?

Please read the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force findings, which call for a 50% reduction in force in Silver Spring and Wheaton specifically. It also calls for no arrests for “crimes against society,” eliminating drug enforcement officers, etc:
https://montgomerycountymd.gov/rps/Resources/Files/reports/rps-task-force-recommendations-report.pdf

This is the culture in which MCPD works, one in which the council and exec believe that crime will go down if there are fewer officers. Read the report. That language is all through it.

A lot of those drug arrests were garbage arrests that nonetheless consumed a lot of personnel hours. I think it’s an improvement to redeploy those officers to areas that are suffering from high rates of property crimes and violent crimes, which is what has happened with some success.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg people
The rate of murders in the US has gone up at an alarming rate. But, despite a media narrative to the contrary, this is a problem that afflicts Republican-run cities and states as much or more than the Democratic bastions.
In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.
8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century.

This is a false hood that keeps getting play. The locations are still blue run in those places you mention. These are by and large inner cities with this crime.

No they are red Republican run states.

Like.. Maryland and VA, both with Republican governors?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg people
The rate of murders in the US has gone up at an alarming rate. But, despite a media narrative to the contrary, this is a problem that afflicts Republican-run cities and states as much or more than the Democratic bastions.
In 2020, per capita murder rates were 40% higher in states won by Donald Trump than those won by Joe Biden.
8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates in 2020 voted for the Republican presidential nominee in every election this century.

That's a cop-out (pardon the pun). Let's not do anything about crime because other states have crime also!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

LOL, yea let's compare it to a year nobody left there house and bars were closed. Jeez, such brain damage in the right.

That number of homicides is the highest the county has seen since the 90s.

But here's the thing. People don't experience violence equally. Most of the violence is occurring in small parts of the county -- equity focus areas. So when you "reform" the criminal justice system and take away both enforcement and consequences, you end up hurting African Americans for the most part. And then to a certain extent, Latino residents.

Please explain what specific steps have been taken in MoCo to take away enforcement and consequences?

Please read the Reimagining Public Safety Task Force findings, which call for a 50% reduction in force in Silver Spring and Wheaton specifically. It also calls for no arrests for “crimes against society,” eliminating drug enforcement officers, etc:
https://montgomerycountymd.gov/rps/Resources/Files/reports/rps-task-force-recommendations-report.pdf

This is the culture in which MCPD works, one in which the council and exec believe that crime will go down if there are fewer officers. Read the report. That language is all through it.

A lot of those drug arrests were garbage arrests that nonetheless consumed a lot of personnel hours. I think it’s an improvement to redeploy those officers to areas that are suffering from high rates of property crimes and violent crimes, which is what has happened with some success.

Except that’s not what is recommended by the task force. Most violent crimes in the county happen in the 3rd and 4th districts, the very ones the task force want to de-police by 50%:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/Annual-Reports/CrimeandSafety/2021%20MCPD%20Annual%20Report%20on%20Crime%20and%20Safety.pdf (Pages 10 and 13, among others)

There’s also a clear correlation between drugs and crime. The task force calls for eliminating many drug arrests and drug enforcement officers. It isn’t hard to see how that will also impact crime rates.

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Anonymous wrote:MoCo is becoming more vibrant and diverse. This is a feature not a bug.

Just say you hate hispanics and blacks and be done with it.

Nope. I hate white liberals who treat POC like they were pets. Poor, simple creatures who can’t look after themselves without the intervention and guiding white hand reaching down from their ivory tower to care for them, since they can’t take care of themselves. Your polices have destroyed generations of black families. And your soft on crime nonsense has ensured they live in neighborhoods saturated with crime. I’m glad to see the fruits of all your labor coming to bear in your own communities now, too. This is what you have wrought, and now it’s on your doorstep. Good.

I agree with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:MoCo is becoming more vibrant and diverse. This is a feature not a bug.

Just say you hate hispanics and blacks and be done with it.

Nope. I hate white liberals who treat POC like they were pets. Poor, simple creatures who can’t look after themselves without the intervention and guiding white hand reaching down from their ivory tower to care for them, since they can’t take care of themselves. Your polices have destroyed generations of black families. And your soft on crime nonsense has ensured they live in neighborhoods saturated with crime. I’m glad to see the fruits of all your labor coming to bear in your own communities now, too. This is what you have wrought, and now it’s on your doorstep. Good.

So true. And so many of them here in progressive Montgomery County.