RFK Stadium home of the Commanders?

[Anonymous]

Given that it's owned by the park service, I would love for the city to dick around for a while and then the Park Service can make it all into one huge green space with a few youth soccer fields. Like 20. A soccerplex would be awesome here. With some snack concessions? Nice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Weird that you are confidently posting about this when you are wrong about the facts:

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/03/dc-envisions-new-sportsplex-at-rfk-stadium-site-with-or-without-nfl-football/

Under the terms of the lease D.C. has with the federal government, which runs until 2036, the land can be used for sports and recreational purposes. A new NFL stadium would fit the bill.

Now you are correct that this can be legislatively fixed but there is in fact a binding lease on the property.

This doesn't mean shlt if the DC Council and a Dem controlled Congress void it.

They tried awhile back but Obama administration declined until Skins name change which happened too late for that administration. There was another bill submitted that went to House Committee about the deteriorating state of RFK and some seemed to support the idea of selling the land back to DC (this was during Trump admin I think). After that, Holmes did submit a bill for DC to buy back the land but that bill was largely ignored or never went anywhere.

Should note, RFK land is a flood plane. Not sure what can realistically be built there.

The portion in the flood zone is where the built the athletic fields.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the PP’s rumor about the team moving to Richmond were to come to fruition, would that bring Balmer and DC closer together like when the Os had the sole local area team market for MLB?

It’s a shame the RFK stadium is not maximized to its fullest potential. It could be a Part-time youth sports plex.

The DC TV market has 2.5 million households. The Richmond, VA TV market has 600k households. You do the math. They are not moving to Richmond. They were however on course for a move to NOVA until Dan Snyder screwed it up being a greedy liar. I would expect that a NOVA move will still happen but it will take a little more time to negotiate. I suspect the choice is basically Fairfax or Loudon with subsidy or Dumfries with no subsidy.

FYI, the DC TV market is 7+ million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the PP’s rumor about the team moving to Richmond were to come to fruition, would that bring Balmer and DC closer together like when the Os had the sole local area team market for MLB?

It’s a shame the RFK stadium is not maximized to its fullest potential. It could be a Part-time youth sports plex.

The DC TV market has 2.5 million households. The Richmond, VA TV market has 600k households. You do the math. They are not moving to Richmond. They were however on course for a move to NOVA until Dan Snyder screwed it up being a greedy liar. I would expect that a NOVA move will still happen but it will take a little more time to negotiate. I suspect the choice is basically Fairfax or Loudon with subsidy or Dumfries with no subsidy.

FYI, the DC TV market is 7+ million

That’s incorrect. It’s 2.5 million households. Thanks for playing.
https://oaaa.org/Portals/0/Public%20PDFs/OAAA%202021%20NIELSEN%20DMA%20Rankings%20Report.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Weird that you are confidently posting about this when you are wrong about the facts:

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/03/dc-envisions-new-sportsplex-at-rfk-stadium-site-with-or-without-nfl-football/

Under the terms of the lease D.C. has with the federal government, which runs until 2036, the land can be used for sports and recreational purposes. A new NFL stadium would fit the bill.

Now you are correct that this can be legislatively fixed but there is in fact a binding lease on the property.

This doesn't mean shlt if the DC Council and a Dem controlled Congress void it.

They tried awhile back but Obama administration declined until Skins name change which happened too late for that administration. There was another bill submitted that went to House Committee about the deteriorating state of RFK and some seemed to support the idea of selling the land back to DC (this was during Trump admin I think). After that, Holmes did submit a bill for DC to buy back the land but that bill was largely ignored or never went anywhere.

Should note, RFK land is a flood plane. Not sure what can realistically be built there.

The portion in the flood zone is where the built the athletic fields.

Eh, they only put fields and playground on a portion of the flood plane, but much/most of the flood plane area is still yet untouched. It's just the portion of the land where the stadium itself sits that isn't a flood plane, but the rest of it is on both the north and south sides of the stadium and then all back to the river. There was supposed to be one of those multi purpose open air markets put in near the soccer practice field on Oklahoma Ave and Events DC was collecting RFPs, but that fell by the wayside with the pandemic and who knows if that will ever happen.

https://doee.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddoe/service_content/attachments/District%20of%20Columbia%20Floodplain%20Map%2042x50%2009112018.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Weird that you are confidently posting about this when you are wrong about the facts:

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/03/dc-envisions-new-sportsplex-at-rfk-stadium-site-with-or-without-nfl-football/

Under the terms of the lease D.C. has with the federal government, which runs until 2036, the land can be used for sports and recreational purposes. A new NFL stadium would fit the bill.

Now you are correct that this can be legislatively fixed but there is in fact a binding lease on the property.

This doesn't mean shlt if the DC Council and a Dem controlled Congress void it.

They tried awhile back but Obama administration declined until Skins name change which happened too late for that administration. There was another bill submitted that went to House Committee about the deteriorating state of RFK and some seemed to support the idea of selling the land back to DC (this was during Trump admin I think). After that, Holmes did submit a bill for DC to buy back the land but that bill was largely ignored or never went anywhere.

Should note, RFK land is a flood plane. Not sure what can realistically be built there.

The portion in the flood zone is where the built the athletic fields.

Eh, they only put fields and playground on a portion of the flood plane, but much/most of the flood plane area is still yet untouched. It's just the portion of the land where the stadium itself sits that isn't a flood plane, but the rest of it is on both the north and south sides of the stadium and then all back to the river. There was supposed to be one of those multi purpose open air markets put in near the soccer practice field on Oklahoma Ave and Events DC was collecting RFPs, but that fell by the wayside with the pandemic and who knows if that will ever happen.

https://doee.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddoe/service_content/attachments/District%20of%20Columbia%20Floodplain%20Map%2042x50%2009112018.pdf

DP, but that flood plain map is from 2018 and one has to wonder how much of that would change in the next 20 years with the state of the climate.

[Anonymous]

Who cares where the Redskins play. They stink.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Weird that you are confidently posting about this when you are wrong about the facts:

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/03/dc-envisions-new-sportsplex-at-rfk-stadium-site-with-or-without-nfl-football/

Under the terms of the lease D.C. has with the federal government, which runs until 2036, the land can be used for sports and recreational purposes. A new NFL stadium would fit the bill.

Now you are correct that this can be legislatively fixed but there is in fact a binding lease on the property.

This doesn't mean shlt if the DC Council and a Dem controlled Congress void it.

They tried awhile back but Obama administration declined until Skins name change which happened too late for that administration. There was another bill submitted that went to House Committee about the deteriorating state of RFK and some seemed to support the idea of selling the land back to DC (this was during Trump admin I think). After that, Holmes did submit a bill for DC to buy back the land but that bill was largely ignored or never went anywhere.

Should note, RFK land is a flood plane. Not sure what can realistically be built there.

The portion in the flood zone is where the built the athletic fields.

Eh, they only put fields and playground on a portion of the flood plane, but much/most of the flood plane area is still yet untouched. It's just the portion of the land where the stadium itself sits that isn't a flood plane, but the rest of it is on both the north and south sides of the stadium and then all back to the river. There was supposed to be one of those multi purpose open air markets put in near the soccer practice field on Oklahoma Ave and Events DC was collecting RFPs, but that fell by the wayside with the pandemic and who knows if that will ever happen.

https://doee.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddoe/service_content/attachments/District%20of%20Columbia%20Floodplain%20Map%2042x50%2009112018.pdf

DP, but that flood plain map is from 2018 and one has to wonder how much of that would change in the next 20 years with the state of the climate.

If they're spending hundreds of millions or billions on a redevelopment it would be trivial to include flood mitigation. They could even integrate a seawall into a riverwalk sort of promenade to make it attractive.

[Anonymous]

I would prefer almost literally anything to a stadium on the RFK site. I would prefer literally anything to a publicly-funded stadium there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Weird that you are confidently posting about this when you are wrong about the facts:

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/03/dc-envisions-new-sportsplex-at-rfk-stadium-site-with-or-without-nfl-football/

Under the terms of the lease D.C. has with the federal government, which runs until 2036, the land can be used for sports and recreational purposes. A new NFL stadium would fit the bill.

Now you are correct that this can be legislatively fixed but there is in fact a binding lease on the property.

This doesn't mean shlt if the DC Council and a Dem controlled Congress void it.

They tried awhile back but Obama administration declined until Skins name change which happened too late for that administration. There was another bill submitted that went to House Committee about the deteriorating state of RFK and some seemed to support the idea of selling the land back to DC (this was during Trump admin I think). After that, Holmes did submit a bill for DC to buy back the land but that bill was largely ignored or never went anywhere.

Should note, RFK land is a flood plane. Not sure what can realistically be built there.

The portion in the flood zone is where the built the athletic fields.

Eh, they only put fields and playground on a portion of the flood plane, but much/most of the flood plane area is still yet untouched. It's just the portion of the land where the stadium itself sits that isn't a flood plane, but the rest of it is on both the north and south sides of the stadium and then all back to the river. There was supposed to be one of those multi purpose open air markets put in near the soccer practice field on Oklahoma Ave and Events DC was collecting RFPs, but that fell by the wayside with the pandemic and who knows if that will ever happen.

https://doee.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddoe/service_content/attachments/District%20of%20Columbia%20Floodplain%20Map%2042x50%2009112018.pdf

DP, but that flood plain map is from 2018 and one has to wonder how much of that would change in the next 20 years with the state of the climate.

If they're spending hundreds of millions or billions on a redevelopment it would be trivial to include flood mitigation. They could even integrate a seawall into a riverwalk sort of promenade to make it attractive.

Hey, I'm not opposed, just pointing out. I'd previously seen a football stadium proposal that involved underground parking on the site which seemed problematic given the area (I personally don't want a football stadium).

I don't know that anything will happen at that site anytime soon as it requires congressional action and every bill proposed just falls to the wayside with no action. Holmes has put forth several bills over the last few years, one made it to a house committee. I watched the video of the hearing, they discussed the possibility of the federal government selling the land back to DC. Holmes then did put forth a bill for DC to buy the land in 2019, and it just sat, no action, plus the pandemic then happened so nobody was bothering with RFK anyways. I see a new bill was put forth in 2022, who knows, maybe someone will bother with it, but I'm not optimistic.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

LOL most of Congress wants to see games when their home team is in town.

This is a done deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL most of Congress wants to see games when their home team is in town.

This is a done deal.

as a Hill East resident, I’m not against this! I think there’s still plenty of room for open space/fields as long as they aren’t allowed to take up all the space with parking. everyone can metro or take special buses down E Cap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL most of Congress wants to see games when their home team is in town.

This is a done deal.

as a Hill East resident, I’m not against this! I think there’s still plenty of room for open space/fields as long as they aren’t allowed to take up all the space with parking. everyone can metro or take special buses down E Cap.

Hopefully they would open up Southeast Blvd again and let us drive in from 395 as well. It used to be so darn easy to get to and from RFK back in the day. You could leave home in Alexandria at 12:00 and be in your seat with a hotdog and a coke by 12:45. And after the game, you could be back home by 4:30 if things worked out just right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL most of Congress wants to see games when their home team is in town.

This is a done deal.

as a Hill East resident, I’m not against this! I think there’s still plenty of room for open space/fields as long as they aren’t allowed to take up all the space with parking. everyone can metro or take special buses down E Cap.

I agree with your priorities but do you really think that team's suburban fan base is going to take special buses? It's going to be an ocean of asphalt surrounding a mostly-empty concrete donut.