DC asked people in jail how to stop gun violence

Anonymous
There is at least one quote that got it right in that article. It’s so obvious but apparently easily dismissed.

“They’re killing each other for sport, and it’s motivated by music,”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What do they think of holding people who commit violent crimes accountable? I want to know.

Well, they are asking people who are incarcerated, so I'd say those people ARE being held accountable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know this may sound crazy but I honestly think we should turn part of the empty midwest into a penal colony of sorts. There is nobody out there anyway so why not build a town and essentially fence it off in like Idaho or Montana. Kind of like Australia for the British. They'll have to learn a new way of life but they would not be allowed back out of the state


The good and decent people of Idaho and Montana don’t want your violent city criminal trash.

Better idea - fence off DC and let the criminals stay right where they are. You created them. YOU can deal with them.


Pps idea wint work but all the people in Idaho and montana aren't all upstanding citizens.


Yeah, I was just in Idaho visiting family, and LOL at the idea that they are all "good and decent people." They are white, which is why people think they must be more virtuous. In fact, they are just people, no better than anyone else, with their share of violent trash. The teachers talk about how the week before a break is impossible because many of the kids are freaking out about having to be home all day, since so many come from unstable, abusive families. Someone stole equipment from a camp for at-risk kids last week. One issue of the teeny-tiny local paper had articles on three different murders. One victim was a woman and two were elderly. Plenty of criminals, including violent ones, to go around, they are just more spread out and there are fewer people. Violent crime is a problem EVERYWHERE, not just in DC or big cities.
Anonymous
How about we have a special place where people who do violent things are put in for a few years until they calm down and aren’t violent anymore? If they can’t behave they stay there forever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There is at least one quote that got it right in that article. It’s so obvious but apparently easily dismissed.

“They’re killing each other for sport, and it’s motivated by music,”


I also found it fascinating to hear this from the mouth of a criminal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How about we have a special place where people who do violent things are put in for a few years until they calm down and aren’t violent anymore? If they can’t behave they stay there forever.


But then let's mainly put poor people in there and force them to work. Rich people can make other arrangements. Oh wait
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There is at least one quote that got it right in that article. It’s so obvious but apparently easily dismissed.

“They’re killing each other for sport, and it’s motivated by music,”


+1000
Anonymous
I think a lot of the blame lands on schools. One, many kids go to schools that are horrible. I don't necessarily blame all of the staff for that. The system is corrupt and broken. Two, there are very little consequences for atrocious behaviors. These kids learn that there are no consequences from school.

The sad thing is just like good people in the community, good kids in schools also suffer. They are traumatized every day. They have no rights.

Anonymous
Gun violence can be stopped with Violence Interrupters!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling that many of the people in DC's criminal system also attended or hardly attended DCPS. I am also guessing that most of them are barely literate or numerate. There may be learning disabilities, too. Not being able to function in society as a working adult makes things very hard - also not being able to use logic or reason well creates a chaotic life.

How about making prisoners attend classes and not be allowed out until they have completed at least the equivalent of an associate's degree? That is going to be their only chance for success.


This is probably one of the better ideas I've seen put forward. All the job programs, all of the skill and entrepreneurial training, all of it is a frustrating waste if they can't do basic arithmetic or comprehend what they're reading.


Are you also willing to hold back kids at Grade 3 when they can't read? Starting next year?

"Over 70% of inmates in America's prisons cannot read above a fourth grade level.” Additional Statistics on Low Early Literacy Skills and Incarceration: According to the National Assessment of Adult Literacy, 2/3 of students who cannot read proficiently by the end of the fourth grade will end up in jail or on welfare."
https://governorsfoundation.org/gelf-articles/early-literacy-connection-to-incarceration/

Anonymous
This is also harsh but it is well known that kids growing up in single parent homes are more like to do poorly in school, abuse substances and commit crimes. Yet our society essentially subsidizes single parenthood. How about bringing back some stigma? How about saying, we will help you with money and birth control if you have your first child out-of-wedlock, but will not give you a penny more if you do it again? How about requiring those kids to go into daycare and requiring mom to go to school until she finishes, in order to keep receiving those welfare benefits. Etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How about we have a special place where people who do violent things are put in for a few years until they calm down and aren’t violent anymore? If they can’t behave they stay there forever.


We could call it Washington DC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know this may sound crazy but I honestly think we should turn part of the empty midwest into a penal colony of sorts. There is nobody out there anyway so why not build a town and essentially fence it off in like Idaho or Montana. Kind of like Australia for the British. They'll have to learn a new way of life but they would not be allowed back out of the state


The good and decent people of Idaho and Montana don’t want your violent city criminal trash.

Better idea - fence off DC and let the criminals stay right where they are. You created them. YOU can deal with them.


We didn't create them. We're trying to keep the criminals from getting guns, but you idiots keep getting in the way of that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know this may sound crazy but I honestly think we should turn part of the empty midwest into a penal colony of sorts. There is nobody out there anyway so why not build a town and essentially fence it off in like Idaho or Montana. Kind of like Australia for the British. They'll have to learn a new way of life but they would not be allowed back out of the state


The good and decent people of Idaho and Montana don’t want your violent city criminal trash.

Better idea - fence off DC and let the criminals stay right where they are. You created them. YOU can deal with them.


Pps idea wint work but all the people in Idaho and montana aren't all upstanding citizens.


Yeah, I was just in Idaho visiting family, and LOL at the idea that they are all "good and decent people." They are white, which is why people think they must be more virtuous. In fact, they are just people, no better than anyone else, with their share of violent trash. The teachers talk about how the week before a break is impossible because many of the kids are freaking out about having to be home all day, since so many come from unstable, abusive families. Someone stole equipment from a camp for at-risk kids last week. One issue of the teeny-tiny local paper had articles on three different murders. One victim was a woman and two were elderly. Plenty of criminals, including violent ones, to go around, they are just more spread out and there are fewer people. Violent crime is a problem EVERYWHERE, not just in DC or big cities.


+1000. When I'm back home visiting relatives in their deep red mostly white county they have the same problems, violence, drugs, theft etc, except it's poor white people doing the crime and with lower overall population, the numbers don't look as bad on the surface, even though they are every bit as bad on a per capita basis.
Anonymous
Who cares? The more inner city black men kill each other, the better.
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