Florida now allows vets and their spouses to teach without degrees

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a teacher training program that benefits veterans. Perhaps this helps address teacher shortages.

Look, I think teachers should have BAs if they are teaching a subject to a higher grade, but ES? I don't know that the BA is as necessary as other skills that military people tend to be indoctrinated with.


What particular skills does military training provide that would help someone effectively teach a group of 24 seven-year-olds who have a wide range of learning styles, needs, and prior education?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a teacher training program that benefits veterans. Perhaps this helps address teacher shortages.

Look, I think teachers should have BAs if they are teaching a subject to a higher grade, but ES? I don't know that the BA is as necessary as other skills that military people tend to be indoctrinated with.


Guarantee all these undereducated teachers are placed in the low-income, poverty stricken areas.


And Ron DeSantis would never let his children be taught by these untrained and unprepared teachers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What makes you think your kids teacher now is any better? Do you know their GPA? Do you know that you can graduate collage with a 2.0?

Would you be ok with Bill Gates teaching a class? So far all these potential candidates have more college credits than he does.


Given his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein? No, I don’t think Bill Gates should be in a classroom.
Anonymous
For every obnoxious military wife on Facebook, there are probably 4 or 5 who are chronically underemployed because of their spouse's work. This program, with some reasonable requirements, gets at a real problem in the labor market.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why is the veteran or spouse of a veteran important?


Veteran preference is a common hiring practice in many fields. One, we owe them, and two, experience shows that military experience has been an excellent foundation for success in many occupations.


“We owe them” nothing. They voluntarily took a paid job.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a teacher training program that benefits veterans. Perhaps this helps address teacher shortages.

Look, I think teachers should have BAs if they are teaching a subject to a higher grade, but ES? I don't know that the BA is as necessary as other skills that military people tend to be indoctrinated with.


Guarantee all these undereducated teachers are placed in the low-income, poverty stricken areas.


And Ron DeSantis would never let his children be taught by these untrained and unprepared teachers.


Lol private schools have less stringent teacher qualification standards than public schools. Often you only need to be white and upper middle class and not be on any registers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a teacher training program that benefits veterans. Perhaps this helps address teacher shortages.

Look, I think teachers should have BAs if they are teaching a subject to a higher grade, but ES? I don't know that the BA is as necessary as other skills that military people tend to be indoctrinated with.


Guarantee all these undereducated teachers are placed in the low-income, poverty stricken areas.


And Ron DeSantis would never let his children be taught by these untrained and unprepared teachers.


Lol private schools have less stringent teacher qualification standards than public schools. Often you only need to be white and upper middle class and not be on any registers.


Yes because the best ones vet the teachers. And gave the autonomy to let them go if it doesn’t work out.
There are current teachers and military people who would be great at teaching…. Even without a degree or teaching training. The problem with this making a general policy that “anyone” with these minimal qualifications can be a teacher. We have more stringent guidelines in other states and bad teachers still get in. And they want to drop the bar even more?!

and for the PP above who used Bill Gates as sn example. That’s one person.. if we have as much info and background and history on these vets prior to letting them into the classroom then maybe. the And the fact that your example is a 60 year old billionaire says something as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is the veteran or spouse of a veteran important?


Exactly? They are a veteran. So what?
Anonymous
This is happening elsewhere too, not just Florida. If you live in Arizona you no longer need a college degree to teach: https://www.ksby.com/arizona-teachers-no-longer-need-college-degree
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is the veteran or spouse of a veteran important?


Veteran preference is a common hiring practice in many fields. One, we owe them, and two, experience shows that military experience has been an excellent foundation for success in many occupations.


“We owe them” nothing. They voluntarily took a paid job.


+1
Anonymous
At least they have to pass the subject tests, but this still seems like a bad idea to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a teacher training program that benefits veterans. Perhaps this helps address teacher shortages.

Look, I think teachers should have BAs if they are teaching a subject to a higher grade, but ES? I don't know that the BA is as necessary as other skills that military people tend to be indoctrinated with.


Look, I'm a former military officer. I can pretty much assure you that there is zero correlation between anything you learn in the military and teaching ES. This program is absurd.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a teacher training program that benefits veterans. Perhaps this helps address teacher shortages.

Look, I think teachers should have BAs if they are teaching a subject to a higher grade, but ES? I don't know that the BA is as necessary as other skills that military people tend to be indoctrinated with.


Guarantee all these undereducated teachers are placed in the low-income, poverty stricken areas.


And Ron DeSantis would never let his children be taught by these untrained and unprepared teachers.


Lol private schools have less stringent teacher qualification standards than public schools. Often you only need to be white and upper middle class and not be on any registers.

You're either stupid, or don't have kids at a good private. Likely both.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a teacher training program that benefits veterans. Perhaps this helps address teacher shortages.

Look, I think teachers should have BAs if they are teaching a subject to a higher grade, but ES? I don't know that the BA is as necessary as other skills that military people tend to be indoctrinated with.


Guarantee all these undereducated teachers are placed in the low-income, poverty stricken areas.


And Ron DeSantis would never let his children be taught by these untrained and unprepared teachers.


Lol private schools have less stringent teacher qualification standards than public schools. Often you only need to be white and upper middle class and not be on any registers.

You're either stupid, or don't have kids at a good private. Likely both.


My child is taking a summer school class (high school) and the private school hired a really bad graduate student who has zero experience teaching. Huge waste of money. Several kids dropped out. They have less stringent standards and the teachers don't have to be licensed (many choose to be but its not a requirement).
Anonymous
If you’re going to teach K-3 I don’t see why a college degree would be needed given the teacher shortage. Any adult who clears a background check, and can read, write grammatically correct sentences, and do some basic math should be able to teach.
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