Redshirting should be banned

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, but because everyone does it, my August son is behind his peers and we're holding him back. We'd send him on time if the majority of kids weren't already over a year older than him. I've also seen the absolute drudgery and hell that is Kindergarten. Little to no movement, zero field trips, nonstop focused learning by yourself vs classroom learning. Kindergarteners aren't even allowed on the playground, so they have to just play in a courtyard with no toys (they do have chalk and balls). If your kid isn't way behind the curve, they get no attention and no help from teachers. I'm so excited to give him another year of fabulous Pre-K.

We sent our two summer girls on time.

“Everyone does it” is a horrible reason and completely proves the point of this thread, because no, not everyone does it - just the people who can afford it. Even when they don’t need to.

+1, we didn't even know what redshirting was and would not have been able to do it for out August birthday. Redshirting is not some democratizing force for parents who are worried about their kids. It's exclusively an activity engaged in by UMC and wealthy parents. And it compounds benefits these families already give their kids.

We recently met a family at an elite DC private who told us that one way their school encourages/forces redshirting without calling it redshirting is by requiring incoming Kindergarteners to be reading. What this means is that either parents get reading tutors for their 4 year olds if they aren't there yet (creepy and weird) or parents delay kids a year so that they can be reading, or both. And then the kids at this private school get to start school at a distinct advantage to kindergarteners at other schools, because since all the kids are reading they can greatly accelerate all academics. This results in 5th graders who are better writers and reading at a higher level, as well as middle schoolers, and of course high school juniors. But then when these kids do well on the SAT and get into elite colleges (that their parents can afford) everyone will say it's because of their inherent worth and applaud the private schools they emerged from as offering superior education. But the entire system is gamed from the get go by wealthy families who can afford to do so.

But yes, please explain to me how "it's not a competition."

It's a competition, and I didn't make it that way.

You don’t have to send your child to a private school, you know.

Do you understand that people who attend public school wind up competing against people who did their entire lives?

I'm specifically responding to the people upthread saying "it's not a competition" and "people should do what's best for their kid." When it is obviously a competition and pretending it isn't is ridiculous. This is an extreme example of how redshirting is used to facilitate that competition, but all redshirting is part of the same dynamic -- "I want my kid to better compete against peers, so I'm going to give them an advantage of age."

If this phenomenon were really just about doing what is best for kids, you'd see parents starting their kids early. After all, if you read DCUM, you know that many parents seem to think their child is unusually advanced for their age. Are all the people who taught their children to read at age 3 on here sending them to kindergarten early?

Nope. This is entirely about competition and giving your child an edge. Redshirting has nothing to do with nurturing your child and everything to do with trying to game the system on their behalf.

According to the parents on the college forum, public school kids are doing extremely well. Still not seeing the concern.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, but because everyone does it, my August son is behind his peers and we're holding him back. We'd send him on time if the majority of kids weren't already over a year older than him. I've also seen the absolute drudgery and hell that is Kindergarten. Little to no movement, zero field trips, nonstop focused learning by yourself vs classroom learning. Kindergarteners aren't even allowed on the playground, so they have to just play in a courtyard with no toys (they do have chalk and balls). If your kid isn't way behind the curve, they get no attention and no help from teachers. I'm so excited to give him another year of fabulous Pre-K.

We sent our two summer girls on time.

Your school is bad. That's not what kindergarten is like at our (Title 1!) school.

How many redshirted kindergarteners are at your Title 1 school?

None. I've never encountered a redshirted kid at our school.

The fact that your school is full of redshirted kids AND apparently don't allow kindergarteners to go on the playground indicates YOUR SCHOOL IS BAD.

You care deeply about an issue that has no effect on you?

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Apparently that PP cares extremely deeply about an issue that is statistically fairly rare (there are studies on this) and does not impact her personally at all, to the point where she is raging bizarrely on DCUM. So odd.

What's bizarre is that pro-redshirters in this thread are simultaneously arguing that they "had" to redshirt because everyone else does, and also that it's incredibly rare and doesn't impact anyone else.

Which is it?

Oh, to be clear, I didn’t redshirt. I’m fascinated by the continually crazy anti-redshirters though, which is why I read these threads.

Anyone who claims “everyone does it” is simply bad at math and statistics. People bad at math and stats aren’t unusual, unfortunately, on both sides. Of course, there may be private schools that redshirt more than the population average, but that’s an admission policy of private schools who can admit whomever they want. I sometimes think a lot of these threads are started by tantruming private school K parents who apparently just learned that private schools can set their own admissions criteria. In any event, across the population redshirting is statistically quite rare. Go look at the studies of you don’t believe me.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m shocked that this is not a major issue for the democrats. It is obvious that only those with significant means can afford to do this. And clearly it’s a huge disadvantage for those kids who are left to compete and be compared with people up to two years older than them in their classes, whether that’s formally through test results or informally through behavior expectations etc. It seems like a very easy way to close some of the racial (and SES more broadly) achievement gap.

And republicans seem to like the idea too. Or is that the actual problem??

I know DCUMs anti-redshirt contingent has a history of being totally insane as a group, but yet they always manage to surprise me with yet one more even more insane post. I actually relish these threads because I know that one of the anti-redshirters will say something absolutely not in alignment with any sort of reality, and here we are just one page in already with this thread’s contribution. Well done! Love it, my crazy anti-redshirt friend!

I didn’t redshirt, but I support people doing it. I just read these threads for the entertainment value from the frothing, bonkers, and supremely math-challenged anti-redshirt posters.

That doesn’t bode well for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, but because everyone does it, my August son is behind his peers and we're holding him back. We'd send him on time if the majority of kids weren't already over a year older than him. I've also seen the absolute drudgery and hell that is Kindergarten. Little to no movement, zero field trips, nonstop focused learning by yourself vs classroom learning. Kindergarteners aren't even allowed on the playground, so they have to just play in a courtyard with no toys (they do have chalk and balls). If your kid isn't way behind the curve, they get no attention and no help from teachers. I'm so excited to give him another year of fabulous Pre-K.

We sent our two summer girls on time.

Your school is bad. That's not what kindergarten is like at our (Title 1!) school.

How many redshirted kindergarteners are at your Title 1 school?

None. I've never encountered a redshirted kid at our school.

The fact that your school is full of redshirted kids AND apparently don't allow kindergarteners to go on the playground indicates YOUR SCHOOL IS BAD.

You care deeply about an issue that has no effect on you?

+1

Apparently that PP cares extremely deeply about an issue that is statistically fairly rare (there are studies on this) and does not impact her personally at all, to the point where she is raging bizarrely on DCUM. So odd.

What's bizarre is that pro-redshirters in this thread are simultaneously arguing that they "had" to redshirt because everyone else does, and also that it's incredibly rare and doesn't impact anyone else.

Which is it?

Oh, to be clear, I didn’t redshirt. I’m fascinated by the continually crazy anti-redshirters though, which is why I read these threads.

Anyone who claims “everyone does it” is simply bad at math and statistics. People bad at math and stats aren’t unusual, unfortunately, on both sides. Of course, there may be private schools that redshirt more than the population average, but that’s an admission policy of private schools who can admit whomever they want. I sometimes think a lot of these threads are started by tantruming private school K parents who apparently just learned that private schools can set their own admissions criteria. In any event, across the population redshirting is statistically quite rare. Go look at the studies of you don’t believe me.

Weird thing for you to be fascinated and obsessed about.

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I agree. There are kids 1.5 years older than my august boy. It's ridiculous

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, but because everyone does it, my August son is behind his peers and we're holding him back. We'd send him on time if the majority of kids weren't already over a year older than him. I've also seen the absolute drudgery and hell that is Kindergarten. Little to no movement, zero field trips, nonstop focused learning by yourself vs classroom learning. Kindergarteners aren't even allowed on the playground, so they have to just play in a courtyard with no toys (they do have chalk and balls). If your kid isn't way behind the curve, they get no attention and no help from teachers. I'm so excited to give him another year of fabulous Pre-K.

We sent our two summer girls on time.

Your school is bad. That's not what kindergarten is like at our (Title 1!) school.

How many redshirted kindergarteners are at your Title 1 school?

None. I've never encountered a redshirted kid at our school.

The fact that your school is full of redshirted kids AND apparently don't allow kindergarteners to go on the playground indicates YOUR SCHOOL IS BAD.

You care deeply about an issue that has no effect on you?

+1

Apparently that PP cares extremely deeply about an issue that is statistically fairly rare (there are studies on this) and does not impact her personally at all, to the point where she is raging bizarrely on DCUM. So odd.

What's bizarre is that pro-redshirters in this thread are simultaneously arguing that they "had" to redshirt because everyone else does, and also that it's incredibly rare and doesn't impact anyone else.

Which is it?

Oh, to be clear, I didn’t redshirt. I’m fascinated by the continually crazy anti-redshirters though, which is why I read these threads.

Anyone who claims “everyone does it” is simply bad at math and statistics. People bad at math and stats aren’t unusual, unfortunately, on both sides. Of course, there may be private schools that redshirt more than the population average, but that’s an admission policy of private schools who can admit whomever they want. I sometimes think a lot of these threads are started by tantruming private school K parents who apparently just learned that private schools can set their own admissions criteria. In any event, across the population redshirting is statistically quite rare. Go look at the studies of you don’t believe me.

Weird thing for you to be fascinated and obsessed about.

Oh come on. The anti-redshirt posters on DCUM are pretty entertaining for DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, but because everyone does it, my August son is behind his peers and we're holding him back. We'd send him on time if the majority of kids weren't already over a year older than him. I've also seen the absolute drudgery and hell that is Kindergarten. Little to no movement, zero field trips, nonstop focused learning by yourself vs classroom learning. Kindergarteners aren't even allowed on the playground, so they have to just play in a courtyard with no toys (they do have chalk and balls). If your kid isn't way behind the curve, they get no attention and no help from teachers. I'm so excited to give him another year of fabulous Pre-K.

We sent our two summer girls on time.

Your school is bad. That's not what kindergarten is like at our (Title 1!) school.

How many redshirted kindergarteners are at your Title 1 school?

None. I've never encountered a redshirted kid at our school.

The fact that your school is full of redshirted kids AND apparently don't allow kindergarteners to go on the playground indicates YOUR SCHOOL IS BAD.

You care deeply about an issue that has no effect on you?

+1

Apparently that PP cares extremely deeply about an issue that is statistically fairly rare (there are studies on this) and does not impact her personally at all, to the point where she is raging bizarrely on DCUM. So odd.

What's bizarre is that pro-redshirters in this thread are simultaneously arguing that they "had" to redshirt because everyone else does, and also that it's incredibly rare and doesn't impact anyone else.

Which is it?

Oh, to be clear, I didn’t redshirt. I’m fascinated by the continually crazy anti-redshirters though, which is why I read these threads.

Anyone who claims “everyone does it” is simply bad at math and statistics. People bad at math and stats aren’t unusual, unfortunately, on both sides. Of course, there may be private schools that redshirt more than the population average, but that’s an admission policy of private schools who can admit whomever they want. I sometimes think a lot of these threads are started by tantruming private school K parents who apparently just learned that private schools can set their own admissions criteria. In any event, across the population redshirting is statistically quite rare. Go look at the studies of you don’t believe me.

I think that most people who are saying "everyone does it" they really mean "everyone with summer babies does it" especially for boys born July, August and September.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, but because everyone does it, my August son is behind his peers and we're holding him back. We'd send him on time if the majority of kids weren't already over a year older than him. I've also seen the absolute drudgery and hell that is Kindergarten. Little to no movement, zero field trips, nonstop focused learning by yourself vs classroom learning. Kindergarteners aren't even allowed on the playground, so they have to just play in a courtyard with no toys (they do have chalk and balls). If your kid isn't way behind the curve, they get no attention and no help from teachers. I'm so excited to give him another year of fabulous Pre-K.

We sent our two summer girls on time.

Your school is bad. That's not what kindergarten is like at our (Title 1!) school.

How many redshirted kindergarteners are at your Title 1 school?

None. I've never encountered a redshirted kid at our school.

The fact that your school is full of redshirted kids AND apparently don't allow kindergarteners to go on the playground indicates YOUR SCHOOL IS BAD.

You care deeply about an issue that has no effect on you?

+1

Apparently that PP cares extremely deeply about an issue that is statistically fairly rare (there are studies on this) and does not impact her personally at all, to the point where she is raging bizarrely on DCUM. So odd.

What's bizarre is that pro-redshirters in this thread are simultaneously arguing that they "had" to redshirt because everyone else does, and also that it's incredibly rare and doesn't impact anyone else.

Which is it?

Oh, to be clear, I didn’t redshirt. I’m fascinated by the continually crazy anti-redshirters though, which is why I read these threads.

Anyone who claims “everyone does it” is simply bad at math and statistics. People bad at math and stats aren’t unusual, unfortunately, on both sides. Of course, there may be private schools that redshirt more than the population average, but that’s an admission policy of private schools who can admit whomever they want. I sometimes think a lot of these threads are started by tantruming private school K parents who apparently just learned that private schools can set their own admissions criteria. In any event, across the population redshirting is statistically quite rare. Go look at the studies of you don’t believe me.

Weird thing for you to be fascinated and obsessed about.

Oh come on. The anti-redshirt posters on DCUM are pretty entertaining for DCUM.

You are “entertained” in an obsessive, unhealthy, and unbalanced way. Entertain yourself with a therapist.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, but because everyone does it, my August son is behind his peers and we're holding him back. We'd send him on time if the majority of kids weren't already over a year older than him. I've also seen the absolute drudgery and hell that is Kindergarten. Little to no movement, zero field trips, nonstop focused learning by yourself vs classroom learning. Kindergarteners aren't even allowed on the playground, so they have to just play in a courtyard with no toys (they do have chalk and balls). If your kid isn't way behind the curve, they get no attention and no help from teachers. I'm so excited to give him another year of fabulous Pre-K.

We sent our two summer girls on time.

Your school is bad. That's not what kindergarten is like at our (Title 1!) school.

How many redshirted kindergarteners are at your Title 1 school?

None. I've never encountered a redshirted kid at our school.

The fact that your school is full of redshirted kids AND apparently don't allow kindergarteners to go on the playground indicates YOUR SCHOOL IS BAD.

You care deeply about an issue that has no effect on you?

+1

Apparently that PP cares extremely deeply about an issue that is statistically fairly rare (there are studies on this) and does not impact her personally at all, to the point where she is raging bizarrely on DCUM. So odd.

What's bizarre is that pro-redshirters in this thread are simultaneously arguing that they "had" to redshirt because everyone else does, and also that it's incredibly rare and doesn't impact anyone else.

Which is it?

Oh, to be clear, I didn’t redshirt. I’m fascinated by the continually crazy anti-redshirters though, which is why I read these threads.

Anyone who claims “everyone does it” is simply bad at math and statistics. People bad at math and stats aren’t unusual, unfortunately, on both sides. Of course, there may be private schools that redshirt more than the population average, but that’s an admission policy of private schools who can admit whomever they want. I sometimes think a lot of these threads are started by tantruming private school K parents who apparently just learned that private schools can set their own admissions criteria. In any event, across the population redshirting is statistically quite rare. Go look at the studies of you don’t believe me.

Weird thing for you to be fascinated and obsessed about.

Oh come on. The anti-redshirt posters on DCUM are pretty entertaining for DCUM.

You are “entertained” in an obsessive, unhealthy, and unbalanced way. Entertain yourself with a therapist.

I see you don’t like the fact that people have observed how crazy DCUMs anti-redshirt posters are. I suppose it can be tough to see the truth about your group.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, but because everyone does it, my August son is behind his peers and we're holding him back. We'd send him on time if the majority of kids weren't already over a year older than him. I've also seen the absolute drudgery and hell that is Kindergarten. Little to no movement, zero field trips, nonstop focused learning by yourself vs classroom learning. Kindergarteners aren't even allowed on the playground, so they have to just play in a courtyard with no toys (they do have chalk and balls). If your kid isn't way behind the curve, they get no attention and no help from teachers. I'm so excited to give him another year of fabulous Pre-K.

We sent our two summer girls on time.

Your school is bad. That's not what kindergarten is like at our (Title 1!) school.

How many redshirted kindergarteners are at your Title 1 school?

None. I've never encountered a redshirted kid at our school.

The fact that your school is full of redshirted kids AND apparently don't allow kindergarteners to go on the playground indicates YOUR SCHOOL IS BAD.

You care deeply about an issue that has no effect on you?

+1

Apparently that PP cares extremely deeply about an issue that is statistically fairly rare (there are studies on this) and does not impact her personally at all, to the point where she is raging bizarrely on DCUM. So odd.

What's bizarre is that pro-redshirters in this thread are simultaneously arguing that they "had" to redshirt because everyone else does, and also that it's incredibly rare and doesn't impact anyone else.

Which is it?

Oh, to be clear, I didn’t redshirt. I’m fascinated by the continually crazy anti-redshirters though, which is why I read these threads.

Anyone who claims “everyone does it” is simply bad at math and statistics. People bad at math and stats aren’t unusual, unfortunately, on both sides. Of course, there may be private schools that redshirt more than the population average, but that’s an admission policy of private schools who can admit whomever they want. I sometimes think a lot of these threads are started by tantruming private school K parents who apparently just learned that private schools can set their own admissions criteria. In any event, across the population redshirting is statistically quite rare. Go look at the studies of you don’t believe me.

Weird thing for you to be fascinated and obsessed about.

Oh come on. The anti-redshirt posters on DCUM are pretty entertaining for DCUM.

You are “entertained” in an obsessive, unhealthy, and unbalanced way. Entertain yourself with a therapist.

I see you don’t like the fact that people have observed how crazy DCUMs anti-redshirt posters are. I suppose it can be tough to see the truth about your group.

Oh, the irony!

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, but because everyone does it, my August son is behind his peers and we're holding him back. We'd send him on time if the majority of kids weren't already over a year older than him. I've also seen the absolute drudgery and hell that is Kindergarten. Little to no movement, zero field trips, nonstop focused learning by yourself vs classroom learning. Kindergarteners aren't even allowed on the playground, so they have to just play in a courtyard with no toys (they do have chalk and balls). If your kid isn't way behind the curve, they get no attention and no help from teachers. I'm so excited to give him another year of fabulous Pre-K.

We sent our two summer girls on time.

Your school is bad. That's not what kindergarten is like at our (Title 1!) school.

How many redshirted kindergarteners are at your Title 1 school?

None. I've never encountered a redshirted kid at our school.

The fact that your school is full of redshirted kids AND apparently don't allow kindergarteners to go on the playground indicates YOUR SCHOOL IS BAD.

You care deeply about an issue that has no effect on you?

+1

Apparently that PP cares extremely deeply about an issue that is statistically fairly rare (there are studies on this) and does not impact her personally at all, to the point where she is raging bizarrely on DCUM. So odd.

What's bizarre is that pro-redshirters in this thread are simultaneously arguing that they "had" to redshirt because everyone else does, and also that it's incredibly rare and doesn't impact anyone else.

Which is it?

Oh, to be clear, I didn’t redshirt. I’m fascinated by the continually crazy anti-redshirters though, which is why I read these threads.

Anyone who claims “everyone does it” is simply bad at math and statistics. People bad at math and stats aren’t unusual, unfortunately, on both sides. Of course, there may be private schools that redshirt more than the population average, but that’s an admission policy of private schools who can admit whomever they want. I sometimes think a lot of these threads are started by tantruming private school K parents who apparently just learned that private schools can set their own admissions criteria. In any event, across the population redshirting is statistically quite rare. Go look at the studies of you don’t believe me.

Weird thing for you to be fascinated and obsessed about.

Oh come on. The anti-redshirt posters on DCUM are pretty entertaining for DCUM.

You are “entertained” in an obsessive, unhealthy, and unbalanced way. Entertain yourself with a therapist.

I see you don’t like the fact that people have observed how crazy DCUMs anti-redshirt posters are. I suppose it can be tough to see the truth about your group.

You would redshirt as you feel the need to “one-up” and bully your way through with you lack of emotional intelligence.

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Why didn't you all just schedule your kid to be born in October like I did? That way he gets to be one of the older kids AND go on time!

(kidding) My second child is a summer birthday. It's interesting to see the difference in athletics and school between being older vs younger for the grade cohort.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, but because everyone does it, my August son is behind his peers and we're holding him back. We'd send him on time if the majority of kids weren't already over a year older than him. I've also seen the absolute drudgery and hell that is Kindergarten. Little to no movement, zero field trips, nonstop focused learning by yourself vs classroom learning. Kindergarteners aren't even allowed on the playground, so they have to just play in a courtyard with no toys (they do have chalk and balls). If your kid isn't way behind the curve, they get no attention and no help from teachers. I'm so excited to give him another year of fabulous Pre-K.

We sent our two summer girls on time.

Your school is bad. That's not what kindergarten is like at our (Title 1!) school.

How many redshirted kindergarteners are at your Title 1 school?

None. I've never encountered a redshirted kid at our school.

The fact that your school is full of redshirted kids AND apparently don't allow kindergarteners to go on the playground indicates YOUR SCHOOL IS BAD.

You care deeply about an issue that has no effect on you?

+1

Apparently that PP cares extremely deeply about an issue that is statistically fairly rare (there are studies on this) and does not impact her personally at all, to the point where she is raging bizarrely on DCUM. So odd.

What's bizarre is that pro-redshirters in this thread are simultaneously arguing that they "had" to redshirt because everyone else does, and also that it's incredibly rare and doesn't impact anyone else.

Which is it?

Oh, to be clear, I didn’t redshirt. I’m fascinated by the continually crazy anti-redshirters though, which is why I read these threads.

Anyone who claims “everyone does it” is simply bad at math and statistics. People bad at math and stats aren’t unusual, unfortunately, on both sides. Of course, there may be private schools that redshirt more than the population average, but that’s an admission policy of private schools who can admit whomever they want. I sometimes think a lot of these threads are started by tantruming private school K parents who apparently just learned that private schools can set their own admissions criteria. In any event, across the population redshirting is statistically quite rare. Go look at the studies of you don’t believe me.

Weird thing for you to be fascinated and obsessed about.

Oh come on. The anti-redshirt posters on DCUM are pretty entertaining for DCUM.

You are “entertained” in an obsessive, unhealthy, and unbalanced way. Entertain yourself with a therapist.

I see you don’t like the fact that people have observed how crazy DCUMs anti-redshirt posters are. I suppose it can be tough to see the truth about your group.

You would redshirt as you feel the need to “one-up” and bully your way through with you lack of emotional intelligence.

I could have redshirted and didn’t.

In any event, it is kind of obvious how detached from reality the anti-redshirters are. It doesn’t take a lot of observation. In this thread alone there is a poster who is apparently genuinely puzzled as to why anti-redshirting is not on the platform of the national Democratic Party. You cannot seriously argue that someone who is genuinely asking that question is grounded in any sort of reality.

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I think in public schools, the birth dates for admittance should be set. Why should parents get to pick and choose? That said, my kids were at the very end of the admittance year so they could have been the oldest or the youngest. For different reasons for each, we went with the oldest. I think it had positives and negatives. It can really backfire when they're a senior in high school and already done with being your kid, clearly should have been in college that year.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care?

Not everything is a competition. Raise your kids the way you feel is best and let others do the same.

Why control what other do with their children? Isn't that a bit like controlling who can marry, what other do with their bodies/healthcare how others invest their time and money, etc?

Actually when it comes to some classes, sports and college it is a competition which is why parents hold back their kids.