The United States Secret Service is a rogue agency

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.

Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.


It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.

They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.


As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.

Sorry, my tax dollars are not to support half humans half dogs. You have SO drank the kool aid that these guys drink to justify being above the law.

My dad was a firefighter. He went into FLAMES to save babies when he had babies at home. That is pretty hard core. But no one said he could flaunt laws or morales, nor did he.

You sound like you have watched Topgun (see Jack Nicholson's speech on the witness stand) one too many times.

Let me help you, you poor thing…. The movie you’re referring to is “A Few Good Men”.

And yes, the spirit of the quote is generally accurate. Those people in the CAT are just different. And they should be regarded differently. I’m sorry you’re incapable of processing that. But I guess we all have our limiting factors.

Notice that the "heroes" in that movie were charged with murder. I think you are the one who is limited.

Democracies don't work when burly men with guns think they know best, rather than the appointed civilians who they report to.

Democracies also don’t work when our elected leaders are killed in an attack by burly enemy men with guns because we had no burly men with guns of our own to fight/kill/die repelling the attack.

No. That's the point of a democracy. Sole authority is not vested in a single person with no fallback plan if that leader is assassinated.

^ this. But people are really forgetting this, preferring a version of government that is much less like the one our founders intended, and more like what we see in what the former guy might have referred to as “shithole” countries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That tidbit about how pence would not get into the car on Jan 6th really stood out to me as a mature reasonably informed person. I can't recall coverage of any similar incidents........lack of trust in a SS security detail by the person being protected.

Does that happen?

I thought Pence wouldn’t get in the car because he assumed the SS would take him far away from the Capitol building for his own protection—but he needed to stay there to complete his constitutional duties. But maybe I have misunderstood this. Anyone know?

Ask Chuck Grassley, who announced on 1/5, that HE and not Pence, would be presiding over the vote count.

That should be a clue, no?

[Anonymous]

Where are all the "but her emails" people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That tidbit about how pence would not get into the car on Jan 6th really stood out to me as a mature reasonably informed person. I can't recall coverage of any similar incidents........lack of trust in a SS security detail by the person being protected.

Does that happen?

I thought Pence wouldn’t get in the car because he assumed the SS would take him far away from the Capitol building for his own protection—but he needed to stay there to complete his constitutional duties. But maybe I have misunderstood this. Anyone know?

Ask Chuck Grassley, who announced on 1/5, that HE and not Pence, would be presiding over the vote count.

That should be a clue, no?

He had some lame excuse that he wasn’t talking about the Pence proceeding, but something else. Sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That tidbit about how pence would not get into the car on Jan 6th really stood out to me as a mature reasonably informed person. I can't recall coverage of any similar incidents........lack of trust in a SS security detail by the person being protected.

Does that happen?

I thought Pence wouldn’t get in the car because he assumed the SS would take him far away from the Capitol building for his own protection—but he needed to stay there to complete his constitutional duties. But maybe I have misunderstood this. Anyone know?

Ask Chuck Grassley, who announced on 1/5, that HE and not Pence, would be presiding over the vote count.

That should be a clue, no?

Grassley has some explaining to do, but it doesn’t mean that the USSS was in on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That tidbit about how pence would not get into the car on Jan 6th really stood out to me as a mature reasonably informed person. I can't recall coverage of any similar incidents........lack of trust in a SS security detail by the person being protected.

Does that happen?

I thought Pence wouldn’t get in the car because he assumed the SS would take him far away from the Capitol building for his own protection—but he needed to stay there to complete his constitutional duties. But maybe I have misunderstood this. Anyone know?

Ask Chuck Grassley, who announced on 1/5, that HE and not Pence, would be presiding over the vote count.

That should be a clue, no?

Grassley has some explaining to do, but it doesn’t mean that the USSS was in on it.

The deleted texts and Pence’s refusal to get in the car plus the porosity between the White House and USSS in regards to Ornato’s ability to float back and forth says it does.

[Anonymous]

So I bet there will be no punishment, no one is removed from their duties, fired, demoted, reassigned to the uniform section and no prison time for textgate. Does not give you much confidence in the secret service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.

Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.


It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.

They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.


As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.

Sorry, my tax dollars are not to support half humans half dogs. You have SO drank the kool aid that these guys drink to justify being above the law.

My dad was a firefighter. He went into FLAMES to save babies when he had babies at home. That is pretty hard core. But no one said he could flaunt laws or morales, nor did he.

You sound like you have watched Topgun (see Jack Nicholson's speech on the witness stand) one too many times.

Let me help you, you poor thing…. The movie you’re referring to is “A Few Good Men”.

And yes, the spirit of the quote is generally accurate. Those people in the CAT are just different. And they should be regarded differently. I’m sorry you’re incapable of processing that. But I guess we all have our limiting factors.

Oh, for chrissakes. Can we not find Americans who can remain as professional as other countries' equivalent teams?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.

Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.


It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.

They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.


As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.

Sorry, my tax dollars are not to support half humans half dogs. You have SO drank the kool aid that these guys drink to justify being above the law.

My dad was a firefighter. He went into FLAMES to save babies when he had babies at home. That is pretty hard core. But no one said he could flaunt laws or morales, nor did he.

You sound like you have watched Topgun (see Jack Nicholson's speech on the witness stand) one too many times.

Let me help you, you poor thing…. The movie you’re referring to is “A Few Good Men”.

And yes, the spirit of the quote is generally accurate. Those people in the CAT are just different. And they should be regarded differently. I’m sorry you’re incapable of processing that. But I guess we all have our limiting factors.

Oh, for chrissakes. Can we not find Americans who can remain as professional as other countries' equivalent teams?

Wheels up, rings off.

It takes a special breed to sample columbian prostitutes one night and don oakleys the next morning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.

Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.


It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.

They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.


As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.

Sorry, my tax dollars are not to support half humans half dogs. You have SO drank the kool aid that these guys drink to justify being above the law.

My dad was a firefighter. He went into FLAMES to save babies when he had babies at home. That is pretty hard core. But no one said he could flaunt laws or morales, nor did he.

You sound like you have watched Topgun (see Jack Nicholson's speech on the witness stand) one too many times.

Let me help you, you poor thing…. The movie you’re referring to is “A Few Good Men”.

And yes, the spirit of the quote is generally accurate. Those people in the CAT are just different. And they should be regarded differently. I’m sorry you’re incapable of processing that. But I guess we all have our limiting factors.

Oh, for chrissakes. Can we not find Americans who can remain as professional as other countries' equivalent teams?

As someone who’s spent quite a bit of time various “teams” (ours and theirs ((and no one calls them “teams”, fyi - they’re PD’s or PQRF’s)) I tell you with absolute certainty that “their” guys are every bit as toxic masculine as ours.

It’s the personality trait of guys like that. Doesn’t matter where they’re from or what language they speak or who they work for, they’re all the same guys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.

Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.


It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.

They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.


As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.

Sorry, my tax dollars are not to support half humans half dogs. You have SO drank the kool aid that these guys drink to justify being above the law.

My dad was a firefighter. He went into FLAMES to save babies when he had babies at home. That is pretty hard core. But no one said he could flaunt laws or morales, nor did he.

You sound like you have watched Topgun (see Jack Nicholson's speech on the witness stand) one too many times.

Let me help you, you poor thing…. The movie you’re referring to is “A Few Good Men”.

And yes, the spirit of the quote is generally accurate. Those people in the CAT are just different. And they should be regarded differently. I’m sorry you’re incapable of processing that. But I guess we all have our limiting factors.

Oh, for chrissakes. Can we not find Americans who can remain as professional as other countries' equivalent teams?

Wheels up, rings off.

It takes a special breed to sample columbian prostitutes one night and don oakleys the next morning

What flavor Koolaid is that?

You've turned our country into a f''ing joke. Other countries with actual professionals can't stop laughing at this utter inompetence

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.

Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.


It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.

They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.


As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.

Sorry, my tax dollars are not to support half humans half dogs. You have SO drank the kool aid that these guys drink to justify being above the law.

My dad was a firefighter. He went into FLAMES to save babies when he had babies at home. That is pretty hard core. But no one said he could flaunt laws or morales, nor did he.

You sound like you have watched Topgun (see Jack Nicholson's speech on the witness stand) one too many times.

Let me help you, you poor thing…. The movie you’re referring to is “A Few Good Men”.

And yes, the spirit of the quote is generally accurate. Those people in the CAT are just different. And they should be regarded differently. I’m sorry you’re incapable of processing that. But I guess we all have our limiting factors.

Oh, for chrissakes. Can we not find Americans who can remain as professional as other countries' equivalent teams?

As someone who’s spent quite a bit of time various “teams” (ours and theirs ((and no one calls them “teams”, fyi - they’re PD’s or PQRF’s)) I tell you with absolute certainty that “their” guys are every bit as toxic masculine as ours.

It’s the personality trait of guys like that. Doesn’t matter where they’re from or what language they speak or who they work for, they’re all the same guys.

It takes a brave individual to pretend to risk their life every day while working for an agency with an on the job mortality rate approaching zero. Maybe they should try their hand at a more dangerous job if the adrenaline rush is wearing off- crossing guard comes to mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.

Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.


It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.

They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.


As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.

Sorry, my tax dollars are not to support half humans half dogs. You have SO drank the kool aid that these guys drink to justify being above the law.

My dad was a firefighter. He went into FLAMES to save babies when he had babies at home. That is pretty hard core. But no one said he could flaunt laws or morales, nor did he.

You sound like you have watched Topgun (see Jack Nicholson's speech on the witness stand) one too many times.

Let me help you, you poor thing…. The movie you’re referring to is “A Few Good Men”.

And yes, the spirit of the quote is generally accurate. Those people in the CAT are just different. And they should be regarded differently. I’m sorry you’re incapable of processing that. But I guess we all have our limiting factors.

Notice that the "heroes" in that movie were charged with murder. I think you are the one who is limited.

Democracies don't work when burly men with guns think they know best, rather than the appointed civilians who they report to.

Democracies also don’t work when our elected leaders are killed in an attack by burly enemy men with guns because we had no burly men with guns of our own to fight/kill/die repelling the attack.

I suggest you read the EXTREMELY well documented book, referenced above, which describes how that agency has lost its way.

That is if you can read.

You’re replying to my post, which I did in fact, write. Therefore it should be a reasonable assumption on your part that I CAN also read, too.


Why the nastiness here? Why the insults?

Seriously- what did I do to you, other than have a differing opinion? I didn’t insult you. I didn’t imply you were stupid.

All I did was disagree with you.


You owe me an apology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.

Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.


It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.

They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.


As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.

Sorry, my tax dollars are not to support half humans half dogs. You have SO drank the kool aid that these guys drink to justify being above the law.

My dad was a firefighter. He went into FLAMES to save babies when he had babies at home. That is pretty hard core. But no one said he could flaunt laws or morales, nor did he.

You sound like you have watched Topgun (see Jack Nicholson's speech on the witness stand) one too many times.

Let me help you, you poor thing…. The movie you’re referring to is “A Few Good Men”.

And yes, the spirit of the quote is generally accurate. Those people in the CAT are just different. And they should be regarded differently. I’m sorry you’re incapable of processing that. But I guess we all have our limiting factors.

Oh, for chrissakes. Can we not find Americans who can remain as professional as other countries' equivalent teams?

Wheels up, rings off.

It takes a special breed to sample columbian prostitutes one night and don oakleys the next morning

OMG, You are the type of macho caveman who will just need to go extinct, and it can’t happen soon enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the counter-assault team, specifically.

Do you know what the counter-assault team does? What their job is? What they’re tasked with doing, if called upon? What their training regime is like? Read up on them. It’s not the type of job most people could/would do.


It takes a very particular kind of person to do what they might be called upon to do. It’s a super-alpha-male type of personality that is required, not just to do their specific task, but to even endure the ongoing training. The type of men (and the very, very few women) suited to the team or even capable of doing the job, are of a hyper aggressive, combative, competitive type personality.

They’re basically the attack dogs. Paid to repel (and die) any attack on the President and soak up casualties while the protective team gets the POTUS out of the area of the attack.
People who go to work everyday fully expecting to be engaged in a machinegun and rocket battle against terrorists. And expecting to get wounded or killed at work, if the scenario they train for daily ever happens. These guys aren’t normal. Therefore it’s absurd to apply normal values and mores to them.


As long as they’re fit for duty and report for their shifts, I cut them all the slack in the world for any trouble they get in in off duty hours.

Sorry, my tax dollars are not to support half humans half dogs. You have SO drank the kool aid that these guys drink to justify being above the law.

My dad was a firefighter. He went into FLAMES to save babies when he had babies at home. That is pretty hard core. But no one said he could flaunt laws or morales, nor did he.

You sound like you have watched Topgun (see Jack Nicholson's speech on the witness stand) one too many times.

Let me help you, you poor thing…. The movie you’re referring to is “A Few Good Men”.

And yes, the spirit of the quote is generally accurate. Those people in the CAT are just different. And they should be regarded differently. I’m sorry you’re incapable of processing that. But I guess we all have our limiting factors.

Oh, for chrissakes. Can we not find Americans who can remain as professional as other countries' equivalent teams?

As someone who’s spent quite a bit of time various “teams” (ours and theirs ((and no one calls them “teams”, fyi - they’re PD’s or PQRF’s)) I tell you with absolute certainty that “their” guys are every bit as toxic masculine as ours.

It’s the personality trait of guys like that. Doesn’t matter where they’re from or what language they speak or who they work for, they’re all the same guys.

Lol sure