Is this a Fox News talking point? (Defecating in the streets of NYC)

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Anonymous wrote:It's always been amazing how people in rural red state America always seem to think they know so much more about what's going on in cities they never even visit than the people who actually live there do.

Hubris fueled by propaganda.

Oh, the irony!

If only. See, the problem is that many of us here in DC originally came from rural redneck communities and we do actually know what we're talking about when it comes to the dead-ends we escaped from.

Yes, and many others in DC have never set foot outside their "safe zone," which ONLY includes large, metropolitan areas. You can see post after post of these urbanites slamming "flyover country" and the people who live there. You may have come from a "redneck" community, but many small towns and rural areas are not full of ignorant rednecks. Not to mention, funny that these people never want to address all the ignorant, low-education people living IN the cities themselves.

Shows you don't actually know.

The cities are extremely diverse. Far more of us have come from elsewhere, and have traveled extensively around the country and around the world than is the case in your homogenous little community were people act like you need a passport to cross the county line.

Sure, Jan. We just got back from a multi-country vacation, which we do every summer. But do go on!

How ever did you manage a trip abroad, given you've been here being an idiot on DCUM the entire time

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Anonymous wrote:It's always been amazing how people in rural red state America always seem to think they know so much more about what's going on in cities they never even visit than the people who actually live there do.

Hubris fueled by propaganda.

Oh, the irony!

If only. See, the problem is that many of us here in DC originally came from rural redneck communities and we do actually know what we're talking about when it comes to the dead-ends we escaped from.

Yes, and many others in DC have never set foot outside their "safe zone," which ONLY includes large, metropolitan areas. You can see post after post of these urbanites slamming "flyover country" and the people who live there. You may have come from a "redneck" community, but many small towns and rural areas are not full of ignorant rednecks. Not to mention, funny that these people never want to address all the ignorant, low-education people living IN the cities themselves.

Shows you don't actually know.

The cities are extremely diverse. Far more of us have come from elsewhere, and have traveled extensively around the country and around the world than is the case in your homogenous little community were people act like you need a passport to cross the county line.

Sure, Jan. We just got back from a multi-country vacation, which we do every summer. But do go on!

"Yes, all of us here in Redneckia are the most worldly and wise people on the planet!"
Thanks for the laugh, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:It's always been amazing how people in rural red state America always seem to think they know so much more about what's going on in cities they never even visit than the people who actually live there do.

Hubris fueled by propaganda.

Oh, the irony!

+ 1 million

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Anonymous wrote:It's always been amazing how people in rural red state America always seem to think they know so much more about what's going on in cities they never even visit than the people who actually live there do.

Hubris fueled by propaganda.

Oh, the irony!

If only. See, the problem is that many of us here in DC originally came from rural redneck communities and we do actually know what we're talking about when it comes to the dead-ends we escaped from.

Yes, and many others in DC have never set foot outside their "safe zone," which ONLY includes large, metropolitan areas. You can see post after post of these urbanites slamming "flyover country" and the people who live there. You may have come from a "redneck" community, but many small towns and rural areas are not full of ignorant rednecks. Not to mention, funny that these people never want to address all the ignorant, low-education people living IN the cities themselves.

Shows you don't actually know.

The cities are extremely diverse. Far more of us have come from elsewhere, and have traveled extensively around the country and around the world than is the case in your homogenous little community were people act like you need a passport to cross the county line.

Who are you? Do you hear yourself?! We can all hear an insufferable snob speaking.

[Anonymous]

Its certainly true for some areas in SF. There are nice beautiful neighborhoods too, with only an occasional tent or two that is
And then there are awful ones
Unfortunately of you want to enjoy culture such as listen to music or watch a musical you have to go through some of the worst neighborhoods. So yes in theory a tourist can encounter poop

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where are the homeless supposed to poop? They’re homeless.

Starbucks

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Anonymous wrote:It's always been amazing how people in rural red state America always seem to think they know so much more about what's going on in cities they never even visit than the people who actually live there do.

Hubris fueled by propaganda.

Oh, the irony!

If only. See, the problem is that many of us here in DC originally came from rural redneck communities and we do actually know what we're talking about when it comes to the dead-ends we escaped from.

Yes, and many others in DC have never set foot outside their "safe zone," which ONLY includes large, metropolitan areas. You can see post after post of these urbanites slamming "flyover country" and the people who live there. You may have come from a "redneck" community, but many small towns and rural areas are not full of ignorant rednecks. Not to mention, funny that these people never want to address all the ignorant, low-education people living IN the cities themselves.

Shows you don't actually know.

The cities are extremely diverse. Far more of us have come from elsewhere, and have traveled extensively around the country and around the world than is the case in your homogenous little community were people act like you need a passport to cross the county line.

Who are you? Do you hear yourself?! We can all hear an insufferable snob speaking.

LOL most of us here on DCUM are your former neighbors. The ones who escaped to the cities rather than be trapped in dead ends with limited job opportunities. And that means we actually do know quite a bit about you, your community, your cultural realities and the fake front you try and present here on DCUM. So how about you stop lying and pretending and acting like we don't know anything about you. And if speaking the blunt truth gets us labeled as "insufferable snobs" that then becomes more a statement about yourself than it does us.

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Anonymous wrote:It's always been amazing how people in rural red state America always seem to think they know so much more about what's going on in cities they never even visit than the people who actually live there do.

Hubris fueled by propaganda.

Oh, the irony!

If only. See, the problem is that many of us here in DC originally came from rural redneck communities and we do actually know what we're talking about when it comes to the dead-ends we escaped from.

Yes, and many others in DC have never set foot outside their "safe zone," which ONLY includes large, metropolitan areas. You can see post after post of these urbanites slamming "flyover country" and the people who live there. You may have come from a "redneck" community, but many small towns and rural areas are not full of ignorant rednecks. Not to mention, funny that these people never want to address all the ignorant, low-education people living IN the cities themselves.

Shows you don't actually know.

The cities are extremely diverse. Far more of us have come from elsewhere, and have traveled extensively around the country and around the world than is the case in your homogenous little community were people act like you need a passport to cross the county line.

Who are you? Do you hear yourself?! We can all hear an insufferable snob speaking.

LOL most of us here on DCUM are your former neighbors. The ones who escaped to the cities rather than be trapped in dead ends with limited job opportunities. And that means we actually do know quite a bit about you, your community, your cultural realities and the fake front you try and present here on DCUM. So how about you stop lying and pretending and acting like we don't know anything about you. And if speaking the blunt truth gets us labeled as "insufferable snobs" that then becomes more a statement about yourself than it does us.

DP.
The funniest part of your post is "escaped to cities."

Just a reminder that YOUR limited experience with rural life, or life outside the "cities" you escaped to is simply YOUR experience. People who live outside your "cities" are not a monolith.

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https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-feces-bronx-subway-assault-20220228-64knxmgn5bh4tgr4smtfrdoray-story.html

Maybe your mom heard this story? It made national news.

Here’s the thing: chronic street homelessness is up in nyc and other communities across the country. Dramatically. That’s a fact backed up by point in time counts and reports from the frontlines.

Everyone poops. Even people without homes.

And, contrary to popular belief, you can’t just use the restroom at Starbucks.

I’m baffled by the response that this human suffering is written off as red state conservatives making it “a bigger deal than it is.” As a liberal whose day job has been law and policy strategies to address homelessness, I can assure this is a big deal. The entrenched and growing homelessness despite tremendous infusion of funding and innovative housing and services should terrify everyone.

Google the stats on how many people are one paycheck or one medical crisis or one divorce or sudden death of a spouse away from homelessness. You might be shocked. Or maybe you just don’t care because you’ve grown accustomed to blocking out the human suffering surrounding you in your city.

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Anonymous wrote:It's always been amazing how people in rural red state America always seem to think they know so much more about what's going on in cities they never even visit than the people who actually live there do.

Hubris fueled by propaganda.

Oh, the irony!

If only. See, the problem is that many of us here in DC originally came from rural redneck communities and we do actually know what we're talking about when it comes to the dead-ends we escaped from.

Yes, and many others in DC have never set foot outside their "safe zone," which ONLY includes large, metropolitan areas. You can see post after post of these urbanites slamming "flyover country" and the people who live there. You may have come from a "redneck" community, but many small towns and rural areas are not full of ignorant rednecks. Not to mention, funny that these people never want to address all the ignorant, low-education people living IN the cities themselves.

Shows you don't actually know.

The cities are extremely diverse. Far more of us have come from elsewhere, and have traveled extensively around the country and around the world than is the case in your homogenous little community were people act like you need a passport to cross the county line.

Who are you? Do you hear yourself?! We can all hear an insufferable snob speaking.

LOL most of us here on DCUM are your former neighbors. The ones who escaped to the cities rather than be trapped in dead ends with limited job opportunities. And that means we actually do know quite a bit about you, your community, your cultural realities and the fake front you try and present here on DCUM. So how about you stop lying and pretending and acting like we don't know anything about you. And if speaking the blunt truth gets us labeled as "insufferable snobs" that then becomes more a statement about yourself than it does us.

DP.
The funniest part of your post is "escaped to cities."

Just a reminder that YOUR limited experience with rural life, or life outside the "cities" you escaped to is simply YOUR experience. People who live outside your "cities" are not a monolith.

Sure hon. Keep telling yourself that. I hear my own life story echoed over and over and over from friends I meet here in DC who grew up in Kansas, in Idaho, in Arkansas, Missouri, et cetera. You're more of a monolith than you realize.

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Anonymous wrote:It's always been amazing how people in rural red state America always seem to think they know so much more about what's going on in cities they never even visit than the people who actually live there do.

Hubris fueled by propaganda.

Oh, the irony!

If only. See, the problem is that many of us here in DC originally came from rural redneck communities and we do actually know what we're talking about when it comes to the dead-ends we escaped from.

Yes, and many others in DC have never set foot outside their "safe zone," which ONLY includes large, metropolitan areas. You can see post after post of these urbanites slamming "flyover country" and the people who live there. You may have come from a "redneck" community, but many small towns and rural areas are not full of ignorant rednecks. Not to mention, funny that these people never want to address all the ignorant, low-education people living IN the cities themselves.

Shows you don't actually know.

The cities are extremely diverse. Far more of us have come from elsewhere, and have traveled extensively around the country and around the world than is the case in your homogenous little community were people act like you need a passport to cross the county line.

Who are you? Do you hear yourself?! We can all hear an insufferable snob speaking.

LOL most of us here on DCUM are your former neighbors. The ones who escaped to the cities rather than be trapped in dead ends with limited job opportunities. And that means we actually do know quite a bit about you, your community, your cultural realities and the fake front you try and present here on DCUM. So how about you stop lying and pretending and acting like we don't know anything about you. And if speaking the blunt truth gets us labeled as "insufferable snobs" that then becomes more a statement about yourself than it does us.

DP.
The funniest part of your post is "escaped to cities."

Just a reminder that YOUR limited experience with rural life, or life outside the "cities" you escaped to is simply YOUR experience. People who live outside your "cities" are not a monolith.

Sure hon. Keep telling yourself that. I hear my own life story echoed over and over and over from friends I meet here in DC who grew up in Kansas, in Idaho, in Arkansas, Missouri, et cetera. You're more of a monolith than you realize.

DP.

There’s nothing honorable about escaping your red state.

The honorable thing to do is go back and do the hard work necessary to fuel evolution. Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, etc. need a continuous influx of educated democrats to help spark moderation of aggressively conservative policy.

Anyone can abandon their community for a better life in a thriving metro area. Anyone. It doesn’t make you better. It’s just the easy, selfish thing to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-feces-bronx-subway-assault-20220228-64knxmgn5bh4tgr4smtfrdoray-story.html

Maybe your mom heard this story? It made national news.

Here’s the thing: chronic street homelessness is up in nyc and other communities across the country. Dramatically. That’s a fact backed up by point in time counts and reports from the frontlines.

Everyone poops. Even people without homes.

And, contrary to popular belief, you can’t just use the restroom at Starbucks.

I’m baffled by the response that this human suffering is written off as red state conservatives making it “a bigger deal than it is.” As a liberal whose day job has been law and policy strategies to address homelessness, I can assure this is a big deal. The entrenched and growing homelessness despite tremendous infusion of funding and innovative housing and services should terrify everyone.

Google the stats on how many people are one paycheck or one medical crisis or one divorce or sudden death of a spouse away from homelessness. You might be shocked. Or maybe you just don’t care because you’ve grown accustomed to blocking out the human suffering surrounding you in your city.

Bigger deal than it is - sure, it's a big deal, but it's quite hyperbolic when conservative media makes it sound like every square inch of every sidewalk in every city is completely covered in poop and that the stench will bowl you over from miles away, like you need hip waders and a gas mask to go outside - which is far from being true. Mostly the homeless who have substance abuse issues congregate in places where they think they can panhandle and find drugs which is not the whole city. And only the most mentally ill and/or drug-addled are pooping in the middle of busy sidewalks. Those are very very different scenarios from what you're describing, like a family evicted from their home due to medical bills or a sudden death of the family breadwinner. Those are people who want help and who want to get back on their feet. But there's far less that can be done for the homeless severe substance abusers and/or mentally ill who refuse treatment, who, if given a home might accidentally or intentionally burn it down, they'd need supervision and serious 24x7 case management if put under a roof.

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Anonymous wrote:It's always been amazing how people in rural red state America always seem to think they know so much more about what's going on in cities they never even visit than the people who actually live there do.

Hubris fueled by propaganda.

Oh, the irony!

If only. See, the problem is that many of us here in DC originally came from rural redneck communities and we do actually know what we're talking about when it comes to the dead-ends we escaped from.

Yes, and many others in DC have never set foot outside their "safe zone," which ONLY includes large, metropolitan areas. You can see post after post of these urbanites slamming "flyover country" and the people who live there. You may have come from a "redneck" community, but many small towns and rural areas are not full of ignorant rednecks. Not to mention, funny that these people never want to address all the ignorant, low-education people living IN the cities themselves.

Shows you don't actually know.

The cities are extremely diverse. Far more of us have come from elsewhere, and have traveled extensively around the country and around the world than is the case in your homogenous little community were people act like you need a passport to cross the county line.

Who are you? Do you hear yourself?! We can all hear an insufferable snob speaking.

LOL most of us here on DCUM are your former neighbors. The ones who escaped to the cities rather than be trapped in dead ends with limited job opportunities. And that means we actually do know quite a bit about you, your community, your cultural realities and the fake front you try and present here on DCUM. So how about you stop lying and pretending and acting like we don't know anything about you. And if speaking the blunt truth gets us labeled as "insufferable snobs" that then becomes more a statement about yourself than it does us.

DP.
The funniest part of your post is "escaped to cities."

Just a reminder that YOUR limited experience with rural life, or life outside the "cities" you escaped to is simply YOUR experience. People who live outside your "cities" are not a monolith.

Sure hon. Keep telling yourself that. I hear my own life story echoed over and over and over from friends I meet here in DC who grew up in Kansas, in Idaho, in Arkansas, Missouri, et cetera. You're more of a monolith than you realize.

DP.

There’s nothing honorable about escaping your red state.

The honorable thing to do is go back and do the hard work necessary to fuel evolution. Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, etc. need a continuous influx of educated democrats to help spark moderation of aggressively conservative policy.

Anyone can abandon their community for a better life in a thriving metro area. Anyone. It doesn’t make you better. It’s just the easy, selfish thing to do.

Sure, we could go back. But why? What's to draw us back? MAGAs behaving like a-holes is a huge turn-off. I still have family there, I go and visit, I keep in touch with people I went to high school with - of the ones I went to high school with, many moved away like I did, and they are normal people. But when I talk to ones who stayed behind, it's sad, and sometimes shocking, for example a month ago when I was back home and ran into a former high school friend who made some completely casual, unvarnished comments that were extremely racist... and in the back of my mind I suddenly realized that's the kind of thing he *always* used to say but back when I lived there it wasn't quite as shocking because that kind of language was ubiquitous. Is it my job to go back and change their culture? They don't want to change. They don't see anything wrong with things like racist comments. They look down on "city folk." They think it's some kind of hilarious thing to do things like illegally modify their diesel pickup truck fuel systems in order to belch oily black clouds of soot at the flip of a switch just to harass bicyclists and drivers of EVs and hybrids. Doing utterly moronic things even at the expense of their own wallet, their own health and wellbeing to "own the libs" is a warped sport for them. Why would I want to deal with that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-feces-bronx-subway-assault-20220228-64knxmgn5bh4tgr4smtfrdoray-story.html

Maybe your mom heard this story? It made national news.

Here’s the thing: chronic street homelessness is up in nyc and other communities across the country. Dramatically. That’s a fact backed up by point in time counts and reports from the frontlines.

Everyone poops. Even people without homes.

And, contrary to popular belief, you can’t just use the restroom at Starbucks.

I’m baffled by the response that this human suffering is written off as red state conservatives making it “a bigger deal than it is.” As a liberal whose day job has been law and policy strategies to address homelessness, I can assure this is a big deal. The entrenched and growing homelessness despite tremendous infusion of funding and innovative housing and services should terrify everyone.

Google the stats on how many people are one paycheck or one medical crisis or one divorce or sudden death of a spouse away from homelessness. You might be shocked. Or maybe you just don’t care because you’ve grown accustomed to blocking out the human suffering surrounding you in your city.

Bigger deal than it is - sure, it's a big deal, but it's quite hyperbolic when conservative media makes it sound like every square inch of every sidewalk in every city is completely covered in poop and that the stench will bowl you over from miles away, like you need hip waders and a gas mask to go outside - which is far from being true. Mostly the homeless who have substance abuse issues congregate in places where they think they can panhandle and find drugs which is not the whole city. And only the most mentally ill and/or drug-addled are pooping in the middle of busy sidewalks. Those are very very different scenarios from what you're describing, like a family evicted from their home due to medical bills or a sudden death of the family breadwinner. Those are people who want help and who want to get back on their feet. But there's far less that can be done for the homeless severe substance abusers and/or mentally ill who refuse treatment, who, if given a home might accidentally or intentionally burn it down, they'd need supervision and serious 24x7 case management if put under a roof.

Your post recognizes that homeless people tend to congregate in heavily populated touristy areas. That’s true (unless the city is prone to moving them along).

It’s not a leap for the touristy areas to have many homeless people along with a certain smell.

As is typically the case, the truth is in the middle. And, facts support increased homelessness and related issues in major cities.

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Anonymous wrote:It's always been amazing how people in rural red state America always seem to think they know so much more about what's going on in cities they never even visit than the people who actually live there do.

Hubris fueled by propaganda.

Oh, the irony!

If only. See, the problem is that many of us here in DC originally came from rural redneck communities and we do actually know what we're talking about when it comes to the dead-ends we escaped from.

Yes, and many others in DC have never set foot outside their "safe zone," which ONLY includes large, metropolitan areas. You can see post after post of these urbanites slamming "flyover country" and the people who live there. You may have come from a "redneck" community, but many small towns and rural areas are not full of ignorant rednecks. Not to mention, funny that these people never want to address all the ignorant, low-education people living IN the cities themselves.

Shows you don't actually know.

The cities are extremely diverse. Far more of us have come from elsewhere, and have traveled extensively around the country and around the world than is the case in your homogenous little community were people act like you need a passport to cross the county line.

Who are you? Do you hear yourself?! We can all hear an insufferable snob speaking.

LOL most of us here on DCUM are your former neighbors. The ones who escaped to the cities rather than be trapped in dead ends with limited job opportunities. And that means we actually do know quite a bit about you, your community, your cultural realities and the fake front you try and present here on DCUM. So how about you stop lying and pretending and acting like we don't know anything about you. And if speaking the blunt truth gets us labeled as "insufferable snobs" that then becomes more a statement about yourself than it does us.

DP.
The funniest part of your post is "escaped to cities."

Just a reminder that YOUR limited experience with rural life, or life outside the "cities" you escaped to is simply YOUR experience. People who live outside your "cities" are not a monolith.

Sure hon. Keep telling yourself that. I hear my own life story echoed over and over and over from friends I meet here in DC who grew up in Kansas, in Idaho, in Arkansas, Missouri, et cetera. You're more of a monolith than you realize.

DP.

There’s nothing honorable about escaping your red state.

The honorable thing to do is go back and do the hard work necessary to fuel evolution. Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, etc. need a continuous influx of educated democrats to help spark moderation of aggressively conservative policy.

Anyone can abandon their community for a better life in a thriving metro area. Anyone. It doesn’t make you better. It’s just the easy, selfish thing to do.

Sure, we could go back. But why? What's to draw us back? MAGAs behaving like a-holes is a huge turn-off. I still have family there, I go and visit, I keep in touch with people I went to high school with - of the ones I went to high school with, many moved away like I did, and they are normal people. But when I talk to ones who stayed behind, it's sad, and sometimes shocking, for example a month ago when I was back home and ran into a former high school friend who made some completely casual, unvarnished comments that were extremely racist... and in the back of my mind I suddenly realized that's the kind of thing he *always* used to say but back when I lived there it wasn't quite as shocking because that kind of language was ubiquitous. Is it my job to go back and change their culture? They don't want to change. They don't see anything wrong with things like racist comments. They look down on "city folk." They think it's some kind of hilarious thing to do things like illegally modify their diesel pickup truck fuel systems in order to belch oily black clouds of soot at the flip of a switch just to harass bicyclists and drivers of EVs and hybrids. Doing utterly moronic things even at the expense of their own wallet, their own health and wellbeing to "own the libs" is a warped sport for them. Why would I want to deal with that?

Sigh.

Aren’t we glad that some people were brave enough to fight for the abolition of slavery, voting rights, civil rights, gay marriage, etc.?

It takes hard work to foster social change.

Mississippi won’t ever evolve unless people take action.

There’s a great NYT piece from decades ago about how the peace corps fails places like African communities because the best and brightest take advantage of the new school and then get the heck out of their village and move to America. Same thing. Generations of the best and brightest abandoning their people to save themselves.