Some U.S. students re-think college plans in states with abortion bans

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Anonymous wrote:Seems silly to blame colleges (and not apply to them) for government decision. Most of these colleges established over a century ago.

miss the point much? no one is blaming the colleges, they are simply not willing to subject themselves or their daughters to backwards, anti-women environments. Just so happens those colleges reside in backwards states. I assume that you yourself wouldn't want to a state with politics you vehemently disagree with, so these students are making the same decision. Tons of great colleges for all beliefs. No need to live in an environment that doesn't respect your rights.

Many people live in states where they don't agree with their politics (e.g. Florida). Part of the reason America is so divisive is because of people like you who seem to advocate for a divided country

Spoken like one who has never birthed a child. You do have any concept of the life altering nature of that? Permanent and significant...physically, mentally, emotionally, financially.....for ever and ever.

Overturning Roe is not disagreeable "politics". It is an assualt on fundamental rights.

Not sure what birthing a child has anything to do with this when we're talking about aborting a child. Instead of having a polite discussion, you seem to like to hurl insults. Some would argue that the unborn child also has rights too. You may not agree with that position and that's okay. Just try to sound like a rational human being. It's easy to be a jerk when you hide behind anonymity.

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Anonymous wrote:Flip side: apparently flying completely under the radar, the students trying to avoid schools with vaccine mandates, actively looking for schools without them. For every kid not applying to Rice because of Dobbs, there's another kid (or two, who knows) applying to Rice because Rice was forced to drop its vax mandate by the state.

Funny thing, ranked way down in the 80s (i.e., DCUM doesn't care about it), TCU is overenrolled for class of 2026, even though Dobbs was leaked back in March. Something like half the students are residents of TX, with the second most common state of residence being CA.

Fine unless you are pre med...one of the most common majors. Don't think any med schools would be very impressed with avoidance of vaccination as one of the top reasons for undergrad selection.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems silly to blame colleges (and not apply to them) for government decision. Most of these colleges established over a century ago.

miss the point much? no one is blaming the colleges, they are simply not willing to subject themselves or their daughters to backwards, anti-women environments. Just so happens those colleges reside in backwards states. I assume that you yourself wouldn't want to a state with politics you vehemently disagree with, so these students are making the same decision. Tons of great colleges for all beliefs. No need to live in an environment that doesn't respect your rights.

Many people live in states where they don't agree with their politics (e.g. Florida). Part of the reason America is so divisive is because of people like you who seem to advocate for a divided country

Spoken like one who has never birthed a child. You do have any concept of the life altering nature of that? Permanent and significant...physically, mentally, emotionally, financially.....for ever and ever.

Overturning Roe is not disagreeable "politics". It is an assualt on fundamental rights.

Not sure what birthing a child has anything to do with this when we're talking about aborting a child. Instead of having a polite discussion, you seem to like to hurl insults. Some would argue that the unborn child also has rights too. You may not agree with that position and that's okay. Just try to sound like a rational human being. It's easy to be a jerk when you hide behind anonymity.

There is nothing irrational about discouraging your children to go to a state where women are 2nd class citizens.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems silly to blame colleges (and not apply to them) for government decision. Most of these colleges established over a century ago.

miss the point much? no one is blaming the colleges, they are simply not willing to subject themselves or their daughters to backwards, anti-women environments. Just so happens those colleges reside in backwards states. I assume that you yourself wouldn't want to a state with politics you vehemently disagree with, so these students are making the same decision. Tons of great colleges for all beliefs. No need to live in an environment that doesn't respect your rights.

Many people live in states where they don't agree with their politics (e.g. Florida). Part of the reason America is so divisive is because of people like you who seem to advocate for a divided country

Spoken like one who has never birthed a child. You do have any concept of the life altering nature of that? Permanent and significant...physically, mentally, emotionally, financially.....for ever and ever.

Overturning Roe is not disagreeable "politics". It is an assualt on fundamental rights.

Exactly.

The religious extremists of the GOP just took away my personal liberty.

That’s not a mere “disagreement”.

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Anonymous wrote:Not just young women...my DS will apply to colleges within the next year. He's knocked some states off of his list due to Roe. He's gay and pretty sure the GOP is coming for him next.

+1

Same with my son. He’s appalled at the treatment of women and LGBTQ.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems silly to blame colleges (and not apply to them) for government decision. Most of these colleges established over a century ago.

miss the point much? no one is blaming the colleges, they are simply not willing to subject themselves or their daughters to backwards, anti-women environments. Just so happens those colleges reside in backwards states. I assume that you yourself wouldn't want to a state with politics you vehemently disagree with, so these students are making the same decision. Tons of great colleges for all beliefs. No need to live in an environment that doesn't respect your rights.

Many people live in states where they don't agree with their politics (e.g. Florida). Part of the reason America is so divisive is because of people like you who seem to advocate for a divided country

Spoken like one who has never birthed a child. You do have any concept of the life altering nature of that? Permanent and significant...physically, mentally, emotionally, financially.....for ever and ever.

Overturning Roe is not disagreeable "politics". It is an assualt on fundamental rights.

Not sure what birthing a child has anything to do with this when we're talking about aborting a child. Instead of having a polite discussion, you seem to like to hurl insults. Some would argue that the unborn child also has rights too. You may not agree with that position and that's okay. Just try to sound like a rational human being. It's easy to be a jerk when you hide behind anonymity.

You don't know what the dangerous and life altering impacts of giving birth have to do with the catastrophic scotus decision to overturn roe? That sounds completely clueless.

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Except...half the states raise girls who are anti-abortion zealots as well, so they'll continue to go to SEC schools. A rather famous handmaiden from Notre Dame made it to the supreme court! There are plenty of choices for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:I would. I had an abortion in college and it was hard enough getting someone to drive me to and from the clinic. I can’t imagine having to figure out flying to another state. And of course that would add at least $500 to the cost if not more, have to skip class and work. A nightmare.

In one of Sally Rooney’s novels a character talks about her ambivalence and anxiety towards men/sex and the abortion fund she has to have ready so she can cope. That’s what I’d advise any woman enrolling in a abortion ban state to do: have a plan for where you will fly, and have a $1500 abortion fund.

Why not get an IUD?

I personally know 2 women who got pregnant with an IUD and another who almost needed a hysterectomy at 24 because the IUD got dislodged.

+1. They are painful to have placed, and they can cause side effects like depression and severe cramps. I know that some women love them but they are not a solution for everyone.

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we're currently down to schools in VA, NC and PA (3 states where these rights are teetering) and then NJ, RI, MA and IL

I have a couple schools on the west coast+NV and then a couple in Canada on the list for my daughter as wild cards, but they are mostly out of our realistic price range

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Anonymous wrote:I would. I had an abortion in college and it was hard enough getting someone to drive me to and from the clinic. I can’t imagine having to figure out flying to another state. And of course that would add at least $500 to the cost if not more, have to skip class and work. A nightmare.

In one of Sally Rooney’s novels a character talks about her ambivalence and anxiety towards men/sex and the abortion fund she has to have ready so she can cope. That’s what I’d advise any woman enrolling in a abortion ban state to do: have a plan for where you will fly, and have a $1500 abortion fund.

Why not get an IUD?

I personally know 2 women who got pregnant with an IUD and another who almost needed a hysterectomy at 24 because the IUD got dislodged.

+1. They are painful to have placed, and they can cause side effects like depression and severe cramps. I know that some women love them but they are not a solution for everyone.

Free, easily accessible IUDs are great to reduce the number of abortions (see Colorado!), but they don’t completely eliminate the need for abortions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems silly to blame colleges (and not apply to them) for government decision. Most of these colleges established over a century ago.

miss the point much? no one is blaming the colleges, they are simply not willing to subject themselves or their daughters to backwards, anti-women environments. Just so happens those colleges reside in backwards states. I assume that you yourself wouldn't want to a state with politics you vehemently disagree with, so these students are making the same decision. Tons of great colleges for all beliefs. No need to live in an environment that doesn't respect your rights.

Many people live in states where they don't agree with their politics (e.g. Florida). Part of the reason America is so divisive is because of people like you who seem to advocate for a divided country

Spoken like one who has never birthed a child. You do have any concept of the life altering nature of that? Permanent and significant...physically, mentally, emotionally, financially.....for ever and ever.

Overturning Roe is not disagreeable "politics". It is an assualt on fundamental rights.

Not sure what birthing a child has anything to do with this when we're talking about aborting a child. Instead of having a polite discussion, you seem to like to hurl insults. Some would argue that the unborn child also has rights too. You may not agree with that position and that's okay. Just try to sound like a rational human being. It's easy to be a jerk when you hide behind anonymity.

You don't know what the dangerous and life altering impacts of giving birth have to do with the catastrophic scotus decision to overturn roe? That sounds completely clueless.

Birthing and abortion are two different things. Look it up.

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Anonymous wrote:How many abortions are these girls trying to get in the next four years?

+1000

If this was my DD's biggest concern in choosing a college, I would consider myself a massive failure as her mother.

Meanwhile, please tell your smart DD's to go right ahead and take Duke, Emory, Rice etc off of their lists!!! My rising HS junior DD would be delighted not to have the competition from these pious fools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems silly to blame colleges (and not apply to them) for government decision. Most of these colleges established over a century ago.

miss the point much? no one is blaming the colleges, they are simply not willing to subject themselves or their daughters to backwards, anti-women environments. Just so happens those colleges reside in backwards states. I assume that you yourself wouldn't want to a state with politics you vehemently disagree with, so these students are making the same decision. Tons of great colleges for all beliefs. No need to live in an environment that doesn't respect your rights.

Many people live in states where they don't agree with their politics (e.g. Florida). Part of the reason America is so divisive is because of people like you who seem to advocate for a divided country

Spoken like one who has never birthed a child. You do have any concept of the life altering nature of that? Permanent and significant...physically, mentally, emotionally, financially.....for ever and ever.

Overturning Roe is not disagreeable "politics". It is an assualt on fundamental rights.

Not sure what birthing a child has anything to do with this when we're talking about aborting a child. Instead of having a polite discussion, you seem to like to hurl insults. Some would argue that the unborn child also has rights too. You may not agree with that position and that's okay. Just try to sound like a rational human being. It's easy to be a jerk when you hide behind anonymity.

But are those rights greater than the woman who is carrying the fetus? What if the mother has several children and would die if she had the baby. Is it better for those alive children to not have their mother because of the life of the fetus "trumps" the mom?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many abortions are these girls trying to get in the next four years?

+1000

If this was my DD's biggest concern in choosing a college, I would consider myself a massive failure as her mother.

Meanwhile, please tell your smart DD's to go right ahead and take Duke, Emory, Rice etc off of their lists!!! My rising HS junior DD would be delighted not to have the competition from these pious fools.

Dp It is a concern and if you dd gets raped would you force her to have her rapist baby? What if the rapist wants parental rights? I would love to hear your dd's take on the situation. Sometimes kids with controlling parents aren't willing to share what they really believe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems silly to blame colleges (and not apply to them) for government decision. Most of these colleges established over a century ago.

miss the point much? no one is blaming the colleges, they are simply not willing to subject themselves or their daughters to backwards, anti-women environments. Just so happens those colleges reside in backwards states. I assume that you yourself wouldn't want to a state with politics you vehemently disagree with, so these students are making the same decision. Tons of great colleges for all beliefs. No need to live in an environment that doesn't respect your rights.

Many people live in states where they don't agree with their politics (e.g. Florida). Part of the reason America is so divisive is because of people like you who seem to advocate for a divided country

Spoken like one who has never birthed a child. You do have any concept of the life altering nature of that? Permanent and significant...physically, mentally, emotionally, financially.....for ever and ever.

Overturning Roe is not disagreeable "politics". It is an assualt on fundamental rights.

Not sure what birthing a child has anything to do with this when we're talking about aborting a child. Instead of having a polite discussion, you seem to like to hurl insults. Some would argue that the unborn child also has rights too. You may not agree with that position and that's okay. Just try to sound like a rational human being. It's easy to be a jerk when you hide behind anonymity.

But are those rights greater than the woman who is carrying the fetus? What if the mother has several children and would die if she had the baby. Is it better for those alive children to not have their mother because of the life of the fetus "trumps" the mom?

I don't believe that anyone is arguing about who's rights are greater, simply that some would argue that the unborn child also has rights.