Rt. 15 Expansion North of Leesburg

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MD doesn't want to play ball to expand the road or current bridge or add another bridge, so all MD drivers using that stretch of road need to pay hefty tolls.

I bet they'd change their attitudes when they had a mob of angry constituents.

Expanding the bridge at Point of Rocks in inevitable. The rate of growth of Frederick will demand it and Frederick County is not filled with the Montgomery County NIMBYs who knee jerk oppose any infrastructure improvements so the people and the county government will demand it as well.

Frederick is absolutely filled with refugees from Montgomery County. Go into the Wegmans sometime and tell me it's not full of Montgomery County people.

This may be true, but these would be the people who prefer the high quality, low density suburban/exurban lifestyle that Frederick offers. No way they would want to block expanding the bridge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Loudoun has never had a rural vibe.

Not no' more!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want true interchanges, not this roundabout crap. We need overpasses, build it to interstate highway quality and let's bypass some towns.

I hope this is satire.

That poster seems to love interchanges for some rreason. They were in the Brookville Bypass thread calling for them.

[Anonymous]

Expanding US 15 to two lanes is not the solution. What we need is more transit oriented development up in Leesburg. What I don't get is why Metro is not running trains all the way from Ashburn up to Leesburg and all the way to Pont of Rocks

That's exactly what we need... WMATA needs to get off their asses and extend the silver line all the way up to Leesburg and then to point of rocks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Expanding US 15 to two lanes is not the solution. What we need is more transit oriented development up in Leesburg. What I don't get is why Metro is not running trains all the way from Ashburn up to Leesburg and all the way to Pont of Rocks

That's exactly what we need... WMATA needs to get off their asses and extend the silver line all the way up to Leesburg and then to point of rocks

Yawn.

Metro is broken. No body is wants to take it. People that live out there are not looking for a “transit oriented” lifestyle.

Expanding Metro out there would take decades and cost tens of billions.

Expanding 15 can happen in a few years at a reasonable cost and it’s what the people that live there want.

Bore off.

[Anonymous]

Planning is broken outside of DC. It's just more generic cookie cutter subdivisions, more strip malls, more office parks, and dependence on cars to get anywhere between them. Virginia and Maryland both seriously need to start embracing town center concepts and getting back to where people can walk or bike to work, kids can walk to school, apartments and condo buildings with first floor retail. America's car dependence is the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Planning is broken outside of DC. It's just more generic cookie cutter subdivisions, more strip malls, more office parks, and dependence on cars to get anywhere between them. Virginia and Maryland both seriously need to start embracing town center concepts and getting back to where people can walk or bike to work, kids can walk to school, apartments and condo buildings with first floor retail. America's car dependence is the problem.

Do you live in Loudon? If not, why do you care?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's space to bypass Lucketts to the north if they want to with a possible interchange/overpass at 662 leading into the town

Making 15 limited access from the POR bridge down too Leesburg would be the best thing possible.

Widening Rt. 15 or creating a bypass via Clarke's Gap Rd. means the developers gain a foothold to achieve their ends. You know and I know the developers want nothing more than to develop Western Loudoun, filling it with cheap Ryan Homes type developments. At the same time, commuters still have to contend with the abrupt end of 4 lanes at the POR bridge. Traffic will still back up clear down to Leesburg a year or two after the road is widened. This has happened over and over and over again. Ad nauseum.

The only workable, reasonable solution is to build roundabouts. Do any of you remember the crazy backups on Rt. 50 at the intersection with Rt. 15, at Gilbert's Corner? Those backups are a thing of the past. Traffic flows smoothly during rush hours. Maryland will need to get rid of the light at the intersection of Rt. 15 and Rt. 28, and place a roundabout there as well, in order for this to work.

Why are certain people insisting on widening Rt. 15? It's a self defeating proposition if your intent is to facilitate traffic flow.

I agree with this. It worked on 15 south of Leesburg and 50, to an extent. Speed and volume are still a huge issue, plus drivers not knowing how the hell to handle the roundabouts. I would also add that we sat in traffic coming back to Leesburg from out of town Sunday from POR all the way to the bypass, mostly due to people leaving Vanish, going in and out of the big farm market south of Lucketts and other businesses. So attractions in the area also add to the congestion. Also to the poster dismissing concerns about protecting the trailer parks in Lucketts: with so few affordable housing options left in the county, I would absolutely consider that a priority.

[Anonymous]

We need overpasses and interchanges, enough of the roundabouts, they cause even more traffic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need overpasses and interchanges, enough of the roundabouts, they cause even more traffic.

The Board of Supervisors needs to take the developers of the all the high density housing to task on these things! A development of 800 (that's right, EIGHT HUNDRED) units on 58 acres (!) on Belmont Ridge Road is getting rammed through the BOS right now. BRR is already a mess. The greed is out of control.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need overpasses and interchanges, enough of the roundabouts, they cause even more traffic.

The Board of Supervisors needs to take the developers of the all the high density housing to task on these things! A development of 800 (that's right, EIGHT HUNDRED) units on 58 acres (!) on Belmont Ridge Road is getting rammed through the BOS right now. BRR is already a mess. The greed is out of control.

Which is why these road projects are needed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need overpasses and interchanges, enough of the roundabouts, they cause even more traffic.

The Board of Supervisors needs to take the developers of the all the high density housing to task on these things! A development of 800 (that's right, EIGHT HUNDRED) units on 58 acres (!) on Belmont Ridge Road is getting rammed through the BOS right now. BRR is already a mess. The greed is out of control.

Which is why these road projects are needed.

The burden to pay for them shouldn’t be on taxpayers. Developers need to pony up.

[Anonymous]

If they were smart, they'd swin 267 around and run that up to the P.O.R. bridge as an extension of the Dulles Greenway. Would add more capacity to the roads there and give easy acccess into the DC area from Frederick

[Anonymous]

How would that even work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they were smart, they'd swin 267 around and run that up to the P.O.R. bridge as an extension of the Dulles Greenway. Would add more capacity to the roads there and give easy acccess into the DC area from Frederick

That would destroy rural Western Loudoun.

Are you a developer, or do you live in Frederick County, MD?