Separaton of Church and State

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.

It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.

This was such the right decision.

Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.

The optics of a coach in a public school leading a prayer group of SOME students, even with no coercion, has a significant chilling effect on the rest.

Well thank god the Supreme Court rules what he was doing is constitutional. You people expect us to abide by the rulings of the liberal courts for YEARS, now turnabout is FairPlay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump turned the US into a theocracy of Roman Catholics who indulged and hid their pedophile priests without a second thought. Now they get to own women's wombs because, with a declining population, it's hard for those God-fearing priests to find new victims.

Yeah - sure is good that Catholic Trump is gone and we have a Protestant president back in the White House!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.

It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.

This was such the right decision.

Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.

That is just not true at all.

Yes it is. Read the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I reading this wrong that the guy prayed on his own time and didn't lead anything?

I am a committed atheist but I don't see anything wrong with a private prayer.

It was on the 50 yard line right after a football game in the middle of the football stadium.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Separation of church and state was to keep government out of the church not the other way around... EVEN THOUGH IT SHOULD BE EQUAL.

Fk this fragile-ass white christian snowflakes.

Hey now, no need to bring race into this. The black church has been a key driving force to keep Cannabis illegal as well as gay marriage. It’s fundamentalism in all forms that we need to resist.

Which group has more power, would you say? PP bringing race into it is absolutely appropriate, though your larger point that fundamentalism needs to be stamped out altogether is correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.

It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.

This was such the right decision.

Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.

The optics of a coach in a public school leading a prayer group of SOME students, even with no coercion, has a significant chilling effect on the rest.

Well thank god the Supreme Court rules what he was doing is constitutional. You people expect us to abide by the rulings of the liberal courts for YEARS, now turnabout is FairPlay.

Once again it comes down to hurt feelings for white misogynist bigots.

[Anonymous]

I was just talking to my coworker who was celebrating this and asked if you take prayer to God out and put in prayer to Allah prayer to Buddha prayer to Satan you would feel the same way.

He looked at me and walked away

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.

It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.

This was such the right decision.

I do not believe in God, I do not want my children being led in prayer in their public school and I consider this ruling a violation of my and my children's religious freedom. I might be more appalled by this than the abortion ruling for which I disagreed, but could follow the constitutional logic. This literally is pushing me to vote democratic when I've been frustrated with Biden and the far left.

No child was forced to join in prayer. The coach had the right to exercise his religion freely.

Do you truly not understand human social power dynamics or are you just arguing? Being a leader comes with responsibility. Using your power to manipulate minors or subordinates is not moral.

And just what do parents do every day? Thank you for making your ridiculous point for everyone to see!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.

It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.

This was such the right decision.

Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.

That is just not true at all.

Yes it is. Read the case.

Read the case and the oral arguments and statements from the school and the parents. There was zero coercion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.

It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.

This was such the right decision.

Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.

That is just not true at all.

Yes it is. Read the case.

Read the case and the oral arguments and statements from the school and the parents. There was zero coercion.

If you think that persons in positions of authority over children - like coaches and teachers - can ask children to join in prayer to Jesus Christ without having Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, atheist, or agnostic children feeling coerced then you clearly have no understanding of children and the power of teachers and coaches over them. Would you ever say that a student could avoid sexual advances by a coach because there was no "coercion"? Simply being in a position of authority over children implies a level of coercive power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For Catholics, they have short historical memories. This is part of the problem with having little geographical diversity on the Court (heavy on mid-Atlantic Catholics). I grew up in the South and West, where there are a lot of Christians (including Evangelicals and Mormons) who think that Catholics are Papist idolators going straight to hell, and they were praying for our conversion. Catholics were some of the early proponents of separation of church and state in the U.S., because they were a minority and disfavored religion for so long.

Justice Brennan, a devout Catholic, realized that separate of church and state is necessary for people to be able to practice freely. Combining church and state is good for neither the church nor the state. (As the Inquisition and the Renaissance teach us - again, short historical memories.)

I feel bad for the Jewish and Muslim kids in place like the South and Midwest, who are going to have to hold hands and mouth the Our Father if they want any playing time.

Also, funny how when it comes to my womb, it's all about local governmental control, but when it comes to asking a football coach not to organize a prayer circle with his teenage players, suddenly the local authorities don't know what they are doing.

And Hindu kids, and Sikh kids, and Jain kids, and aethist kids...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.

It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.

This was such the right decision.

Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.

That is just not true at all.

Yes it is. Read the case.

Read the case and the oral arguments and statements from the school and the parents. There was zero coercion.

If you think that persons in positions of authority over children - like coaches and teachers - can ask children to join in prayer to Jesus Christ without having Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, atheist, or agnostic children feeling coerced then you clearly have no understanding of children and the power of teachers and coaches over them. Would you ever say that a student could avoid sexual advances by a coach because there was no "coercion"? Simply being in a position of authority over children implies a level of coercive power.

I don't think these people have watched the sexual harassment videos that I've had to watch at work. Any position of authority should be seen as a position of coercion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.

It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.

This was such the right decision.

Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.

That is just not true at all.

Yes it is. Read the case.

Read the case and the oral arguments and statements from the school and the parents. There was zero coercion.

Some students felt pressure to participate.

What if this was a history exam instead of a football game?

[Anonymous]

The right wing really wants a theocracy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I reading this wrong that the guy prayed on his own time and didn't lead anything?

I am a committed atheist but I don't see anything wrong with a private prayer.

He violated the rights of others by praying in the public sphere. Do whatever you want in your own home or in a building specifically designated for religion but do not bring religion into the public sphere.