Separaton of Church and State

[Anonymous]

Jesus loves everyone, but if he hated anyone, this coach and the Justices in the majority decision would be high on the list. These are exactly the kinds of insincere hypocrites that pissed him off back in his human days.

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Am I reading this wrong that the guy prayed on his own time and didn't lead anything?

I am a committed atheist but I don't see anything wrong with a private prayer.

I will quote fox news for once.

"Joe Kennedy was a junior varsity head coach and varsity assistant coach with the Bremerton School District in Washington from 2008 to 2015. He began the practice of reciting a post-game prayer by himself, but eventually students started joining him. According to court documents, this evolved into motivational speeches that included religious themes. After an opposing coach brought it to the principal's attention, the school district told Kennedy to stop. He did, temporarily, then notified the school that he would resume the practice."

I have no issue with a private prayer to yourself, I work in healthcare where folks do that all the time, but I DO take issue with him starting to lead groups of students in prayer. I've also been in that situation at work where the religious manager started to do that and as an atheist, it was horrifically uncomfortable, and it was also uncomfortable for staff who felt compelled to participate when they weren't religious.

Implications of the ruling are that teachers can lead groups of students in prayer and I find that incredibly problematic for freedom of religion when teachers are authority figures in schools. I am appalled by this ruling.

Same and another health care provider here. This would be akin to me leading the code room in the Lord's Prayer when we pronouce a patient's death. I may say it to myself, but as the person clearly in charge of the code, it would be completely out of line for me to deliver the perceived expectation to all team members that their participation in my ritual was necessary. And that's exactly how it would be perceived, as hierarchies work this way. In medicine, in politics, and on the field.

Any other interpretation of this coach's actions is willfully obtuse. And intentional.

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Anonymous wrote:The funniest thing about all of this is God doesn't give a hoot about your sportsball team/game

Yup. And even funnier is that Jesus said those who make a public spectacle of prayer are "hypocrites" and will "have no rewards." The Bible pointedly tells Christians many many times to explicitly not make a show of prayer.

"But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you."

"Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven."

"And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward."

"And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words."

"For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted."

"Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jesus loves everyone, but if he hated anyone, this coach and the Justices in the majority decision would be high on the list. These are exactly the kinds of insincere hypocrites that pissed him off back in his human days.

Exactly, it's like these so called Christians have never read the New Testament.

Hope they like Wicca and Paganism and Buddhism and Islam and whatever. Because now they are going to get that too. No more removing yoga or meditation from the schools, ha.

[Anonymous]

My religious belief compels me to teach Critical Race Theory. Can I do that on the 50 yard line, with a megaphone? Or do I need to keep my beliefs to myself?

[Anonymous]

Activist Asks to Lead Satanic Prayer at Florida High School Football Game
https://patch.com/florida/miami/activist-asks-lead-satanic-prayer-fl-high-school-football-game?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=blasts&fbclid=IwAR3PDJ9Hdqnp2M2-knOUrP3DhyoopmyYF-Iuog2aXsoNkzoJlUkPk4LxXbM&mibextid=FrZHod&fs=e&s=cl

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Activist Asks to Lead Satanic Prayer at Florida High School Football Game
https://patch.com/florida/miami/activist-asks-lead-satanic-prayer-fl-high-school-football-game?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=blasts&fbclid=IwAR3PDJ9Hdqnp2M2-knOUrP3DhyoopmyYF-Iuog2aXsoNkzoJlUkPk4LxXbM&mibextid=FrZHod&fs=e&s=cl

Haha. Love it.

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hoo boy, this whole thread

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Anonymous wrote:So much passion about saying a prayer. Mostly from folks with zero skin in the game. Out with prayer because the kids have so many other things now to influence them - so many things to desensitize their reactions to violence and hate. Much better way to go.

I’m Jewish and, if my kid was on that team, I wouldn’t want them feeling pressured to participate in a Christian prayer.

Try to get it.

Your kid wasn’t on that team so you are not affected in anyway shape or form!

You’re a moron. The Supreme Court just made this everybody’s business by saying any coach or teacher teacher at any public school can push their religion on kids under their supervision as long as they tell kids that they have authority over that it is it is voluntary. It is a license to manipulate kids and abuse public positions of authority and plenty of a-holes will use that license.

Actually, no. That is not the ruling.

They ruled that the coach is able to exercise HIS free speech and HIS religious beliefs. If the kids want to participate, that is up to them.
You people are trying to make this into something it isn't...... as most of the issues that you disagree with.

The supreme Court decides issues, not individual cases. Yes, they've opened the door for this for everyone

No. The SC only decides individual cases not issues. Stop it if you don't know what you are talking about.