Separaton of Church and State

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is about free speech and free exercise of religion.

No student is forced to participate in a post game prayer. This decision affirms the right for a coach to pray publicly following a game (or before a game).

This does not violate the separation of church and state.

Read the case. Students felt pressured to participate in the coach’s prayers because they thought if they didn’t then they would be disfavored and not get playing time.


This. And if you’ve ever met one of these blowhards, you know it’s absolutely true that they discriminate against people who don’t indulge in the same public showy displays of Christian faith that they do. The coach should be fired and run out of town. Ignore the ruling and let the Court try to enforce it.


This is no different than your manager starting team meetings with a prayer circle.


God doesn’t belong in either place - not a sales meeting, not a football game. It’s insulting to think God is picking sides in a freakin childrens sports game, particularly one as violent and deadly as football. SCOTUS thinks they are being clever, but all these rulings are going to do is deliver us straight to a French style secularism where public displays of religion - no matter how modest- are banned. And I think that’s absolutely where we need to be because some people have confused the freedom to live their faith free of government interference with the freedom to use government to force others to live by their beliefs. Non discrimination goes BOTH ways, freaks.
Anonymous
What is sad is that people believe the myths of religion and use it to guide their daily lives in the 21st century.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is sad is that people believe the myths of religion and use it to guide their daily lives in the 21st century.


#blessed
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Perfect. Lets start leading some Muslim prayers in school.


+1. I also hope the local Satanic Temple holds a demonstration at the football field, alongside this so-called "Christian" prayer.
Anonymous


When SCOTUS abuses facts and creates alternative facts, we are done.

Anonymous
Small correction: SCOTUS is not the Supreme "Court". It's the Supreme "Church" of the United States.

Thx.
Anonymous
It starts at the top. For example, why do political leaders participate in prayer breakfasts? Why are sessions of Congress opened with prayer? Why does a supposedly secular nation employ chaplains? It is un-American at its core. All this needs to be abolished. Those who bring religion into the public sphere need to be silenced and shown no tolerance. Do not let them crush our increasingly fragile democracy.
Anonymous
Next game, I hope the opposing team prays to Satan. And beats them.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is about free speech and free exercise of religion.

No student is forced to participate in a post game prayer. This decision affirms the right for a coach to pray publicly following a game (or before a game).

This does not violate the separation of church and state.

Read the case. Students felt pressured to participate in the coach’s prayers because they thought if they didn’t then they would be disfavored and not get playing time.


This. And if you’ve ever met one of these blowhards, you know it’s absolutely true that they discriminate against people who don’t indulge in the same public showy displays of Christian faith that they do. The coach should be fired and run out of town. Ignore the ruling and let the Court try to enforce it.


This is no different than your manager starting team meetings with a prayer circle.


God doesn’t belong in either place - not a sales meeting, not a football game. It’s insulting to think God is picking sides in a freakin childrens sports game, particularly one as violent and deadly as football. SCOTUS thinks they are being clever, but all these rulings are going to do is deliver us straight to a French style secularism where public displays of religion - no matter how modest- are banned. And I think that’s absolutely where we need to be because some people have confused the freedom to live their faith free of government interference with the freedom to use government to force others to live by their beliefs. Non discrimination goes BOTH ways, freaks.


+100
Anonymous
Separation of church and state was to keep government out of the church not the other way around... EVEN THOUGH IT SHOULD BE EQUAL.

Fk this fragile-ass white christian snowflakes.
Anonymous
Next game, I hope the opposing team prays to Satan. And beats them.


LOL. Maybe this would be a "sign" that football is the devil's game.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It starts at the top. For example, why do political leaders participate in prayer breakfasts? Why are sessions of Congress opened with prayer? Why does a supposedly secular nation employ chaplains? It is un-American at its core. All this needs to be abolished. Those who bring religion into the public sphere need to be silenced and shown no tolerance. Do not let them crush our increasingly fragile democracy.


This. I’ve never understood this. The problem is those of us who are “more liberal” seem to have thought it wouldn’t be harmful. But clearly that tolerance was misplaced.
Anonymous
For Catholics, they have short historical memories. This is part of the problem with having little geographical diversity on the Court (heavy on mid-Atlantic Catholics). I grew up in the South and West, where there are a lot of Christians (including Evangelicals and Mormons) who think that Catholics are Papist idolators going straight to hell, and they were praying for our conversion. Catholics were some of the early proponents of separation of church and state in the U.S., because they were a minority and disfavored religion for so long.

Justice Brennan, a devout Catholic, realized that separate of church and state is necessary for people to be able to practice freely. Combining church and state is good for neither the church nor the state. (As the Inquisition and the Renaissance teach us - again, short historical memories.)

I feel bad for the Jewish and Muslim kids in place like the South and Midwest, who are going to have to hold hands and mouth the Our Father if they want any playing time.

Also, funny how when it comes to my womb, it's all about local governmental control, but when it comes to asking a football coach not to organize a prayer circle with his teenage players, suddenly the local authorities don't know what they are doing.
Anonymous
MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.

It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.

This was such the right decision.
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