APS- so many teachers leaving

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Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?

Thanks for making crystal clear that YOU have a major problem with inclusion and that you are projecting your views on to the teacher without having actually spoken to her. You've made my point.

Also, does that kid plan on staying in third grade with the same teacher next year? Didn't think so. So I somehow doubt he's the cause of her leaving the system.

Guess I have to come with the data from my poll of disgruntled teachers leaving the profession to please some people on an anonymous forum. What a strange take.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good for them. I hope they find happiness

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I hate to see good teachers go, but no one should be subject to the abuses of the last few years.

If any of them are the teachers who refused to work in Fall 2020 (while their private school and non-blue area counterparts went to school just fine), then see you later. They owe children an apology too for how awfully they treated them.

PP probably jumped to an inferior private that was open during 2020-2021 and is now bitter about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good for them. I hope they find happiness

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I hate to see good teachers go, but no one should be subject to the abuses of the last few years.

If any of them are the teachers who refused to work in Fall 2020 (while their private school and non-blue area counterparts went to school just fine), then see you later. They owe children an apology too for how awfully they treated them.

This is why teachers are leaving. People like this are driving them out. It was always a profession that didn’t pay enough and wasn’t given enough respect. But COVID sealed the deal. I hope this poster’s children are in elementary school so that they can experience how bad schools can be when parents tear down educators and demoralize the school community. Reap what you sow!

Crazy thing is you hear nothing of private and Catholic school teachers leaving. Same with red state teachers. All of them were back in person in the fall of 2000 too.

Meanwhile, a large number of public school teachers in Northern Virginia refused to work and let the kids languish. Real heroes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?

Thanks for making crystal clear that YOU have a major problem with inclusion and that you are projecting your views on to the teacher without having actually spoken to her. You've made my point.

Also, does that kid plan on staying in third grade with the same teacher next year? Didn't think so. So I somehow doubt he's the cause of her leaving the system.

Guess I have to come with the data from my poll of disgruntled teachers leaving the profession to please some people on an anonymous forum. What a strange take.

Strange take? Hardly. This whole thread is a bunch of parents talking about what teachers want and need and projecting their own wants and needs on to those teachers with barely any input from teachers themselves. It's a bunch of condescending bs.

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Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?

Thanks for making crystal clear that YOU have a major problem with inclusion and that you are projecting your views on to the teacher without having actually spoken to her. You've made my point.

Also, does that kid plan on staying in third grade with the same teacher next year? Didn't think so. So I somehow doubt he's the cause of her leaving the system.

Guess I have to come with the data from my poll of disgruntled teachers leaving the profession to please some people on an anonymous forum. What a strange take.

Strange take? Hardly. This whole thread is a bunch of parents talking about what teachers want and need and projecting their own wants and needs on to those teachers with barely any input from teachers themselves. It's a bunch of condescending bs.

I feel like we’re reading different threads. If you’re a teacher considering leaving the profession, then please offer your suggestions to make things better. If you’re not a teacher, then why do you think you know what they do/don’t want?

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Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?

Thanks for making crystal clear that YOU have a major problem with inclusion and that you are projecting your views on to the teacher without having actually spoken to her. You've made my point.

Also, does that kid plan on staying in third grade with the same teacher next year? Didn't think so. So I somehow doubt he's the cause of her leaving the system.

Guess I have to come with the data from my poll of disgruntled teachers leaving the profession to please some people on an anonymous forum. What a strange take.

Strange take? Hardly. This whole thread is a bunch of parents talking about what teachers want and need and projecting their own wants and needs on to those teachers with barely any input from teachers themselves. It's a bunch of condescending bs.

I feel like we’re reading different threads. If you’re a teacher considering leaving the profession, then please offer your suggestions to make things better. If you’re not a teacher, then why do you think you know what they do/don’t want?

I'm NOT a teacher, and that's the whole point. Because I'm NOT a teacher, I'm not pretending to know what they want like the rest of you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?

Thanks for making crystal clear that YOU have a major problem with inclusion and that you are projecting your views on to the teacher without having actually spoken to her. You've made my point.

Also, does that kid plan on staying in third grade with the same teacher next year? Didn't think so. So I somehow doubt he's the cause of her leaving the system.

Guess I have to come with the data from my poll of disgruntled teachers leaving the profession to please some people on an anonymous forum. What a strange take.

Strange take? Hardly. This whole thread is a bunch of parents talking about what teachers want and need and projecting their own wants and needs on to those teachers with barely any input from teachers themselves. It's a bunch of condescending bs.

I feel like we’re reading different threads. If you’re a teacher considering leaving the profession, then please offer your suggestions to make things better. If you’re not a teacher, then why do you think you know what they do/don’t want?

I'm NOT a teacher, and that's the whole point. Because I'm NOT a teacher, I'm not pretending to know what they want like the rest of you are.

You’ve argued many times that you doubt they’re leaving because of behavior problems in the classroom. How would you know that if you’re not a teacher? You have no room to promote OR doubt a suggestion if you’re not a teacher. You don’t get to play both sides.

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Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?

Thanks for making crystal clear that YOU have a major problem with inclusion and that you are projecting your views on to the teacher without having actually spoken to her. You've made my point.

Also, does that kid plan on staying in third grade with the same teacher next year? Didn't think so. So I somehow doubt he's the cause of her leaving the system.

Guess I have to come with the data from my poll of disgruntled teachers leaving the profession to please some people on an anonymous forum. What a strange take.

Strange take? Hardly. This whole thread is a bunch of parents talking about what teachers want and need and projecting their own wants and needs on to those teachers with barely any input from teachers themselves. It's a bunch of condescending bs.

I feel like we’re reading different threads. If you’re a teacher considering leaving the profession, then please offer your suggestions to make things better. If you’re not a teacher, then why do you think you know what they do/don’t want?

I'm NOT a teacher, and that's the whole point. Because I'm NOT a teacher, I'm not pretending to know what they want like the rest of you are.

You’ve argued many times that you doubt they’re leaving because of behavior problems in the classroom. How would you know that if you’re not a teacher? You have no room to promote OR doubt a suggestion if you’re not a teacher. You don’t get to play both sides.

NP I’m a teacher considering leaving due to behavior and increased violence. I’m
Switching grade levels in a last ditch effort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?

Thanks for making crystal clear that YOU have a major problem with inclusion and that you are projecting your views on to the teacher without having actually spoken to her. You've made my point.

Also, does that kid plan on staying in third grade with the same teacher next year? Didn't think so. So I somehow doubt he's the cause of her leaving the system.

Guess I have to come with the data from my poll of disgruntled teachers leaving the profession to please some people on an anonymous forum. What a strange take.

Strange take? Hardly. This whole thread is a bunch of parents talking about what teachers want and need and projecting their own wants and needs on to those teachers with barely any input from teachers themselves. It's a bunch of condescending bs.

I feel like we’re reading different threads. If you’re a teacher considering leaving the profession, then please offer your suggestions to make things better. If you’re not a teacher, then why do you think you know what they do/don’t want?

I'm NOT a teacher, and that's the whole point. Because I'm NOT a teacher, I'm not pretending to know what they want like the rest of you are.

You’ve argued many times that you doubt they’re leaving because of behavior problems in the classroom. How would you know that if you’re not a teacher? You have no room to promote OR doubt a suggestion if you’re not a teacher. You don’t get to play both sides.

NP I’m a teacher considering leaving due to behavior and increased violence. I’m
Switching grade levels in a last ditch effort.

What school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teaching has particularly been awful the past two years, and we realized most parents don't care if we get sick and die. It's time for a new career, and is not specific to APS.

Yep. All that mattered was getting little Larlo out of the house so they could WFH in peace. And they still don't get it. Even in this thread, where someone's hot take is that teachers as a whole should "apologize to children".

[Anonymous]

I am a sped teacher in an inclusion class and I tend to agree with the PP that says inclusion is driving people away. We are rarely given the tools to do it successfully. The current plan to increase inclusion is going to drive more people away. As a SPED teacher you basically sign up to put yourself in danger (and that’s messed up too) gen Ed teachers don’t make that decision.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good for them. I hope they find happiness

+1

I hate to see good teachers go, but no one should be subject to the abuses of the last few years.

If any of them are the teachers who refused to work in Fall 2020 (while their private school and non-blue area counterparts went to school just fine), then see you later. They owe children an apology too for how awfully they treated them.

This is why teachers are leaving. People like this are driving them out. It was always a profession that didn’t pay enough and wasn’t given enough respect. But COVID sealed the deal. I hope this poster’s children are in elementary school so that they can experience how bad schools can be when parents tear down educators and demoralize the school community. Reap what you sow!

Crazy thing is you hear nothing of private and Catholic school teachers leaving. Same with red state teachers. All of them were back in person in the fall of 2000 too.

Meanwhile, a large number of public school teachers in Northern Virginia refused to work and let the kids languish. Real heroes.

Oh, really? Then why is there an active thread on this very subject RIGHT NOW?

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1056937.page

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pay more
Shrink class sizes
Stop allowing inclusion

WUT? In violation of federal law?

DP here, but I think it's pretty crazy that we expect teachers to handle such a broad range of abilities in one room, and that its become normal to empty a classroom because there is a child having a meltdown throwing things, who is a danger to themselves and others. We've burdened our teachers with too much.

We've burdened our teachers with parents like those on DCUM. That's what we've done. Instead of throwing out a bunch of bullsh8T suggestions based on what YOU as PARENTS want, if you want to make things better for teachers try asking TEACHERS what they want.

If I were an APS teacher with know-it-all parents like they have to deal with, not only would I quit -- I'd jump out the friggin window!!

Somebody needs a yoga class! It sounds like PP was being empathetic to teachers, not being a know it all! What has you so triggered?

Because it's obvious to me that that poster is arguing against "inclusion" because SHE doesn't want it in her kid's classroom, and I have no doubt that she's never spoken about the issue with any teacher. I really doubt that teachers are leaving APS in droves in protest over the system's "inclusion" policies. Cut me a break.

DP. It's usually poor form to call out other kids as being disruptive balls of fury who are harmful to the learning environment. It doesn't mean that some kids aren't a real problem for both the teachers and parents.

Except we're supposed to be talking about teachers. Not parents. So, alleged DP, I will ask again: how many teachers have you spoken to who have suggested that this is a major factor in their decision to leave APS?

I'm waiting.

No, I haven't talked to my kid's teacher about the child in the class who takes his shirt off each day and then throws things around the room. In third grade. You don't think that kind of daily experience would factor in to someone leaving a job? Why wouldn't it?

Thanks for making crystal clear that YOU have a major problem with inclusion and that you are projecting your views on to the teacher without having actually spoken to her. You've made my point.

Also, does that kid plan on staying in third grade with the same teacher next year? Didn't think so. So I somehow doubt he's the cause of her leaving the system.

Guess I have to come with the data from my poll of disgruntled teachers leaving the profession to please some people on an anonymous forum. What a strange take.

Strange take? Hardly. This whole thread is a bunch of parents talking about what teachers want and need and projecting their own wants and needs on to those teachers with barely any input from teachers themselves. It's a bunch of condescending bs.

I feel like we’re reading different threads. If you’re a teacher considering leaving the profession, then please offer your suggestions to make things better. If you’re not a teacher, then why do you think you know what they do/don’t want?

I'm NOT a teacher, and that's the whole point. Because I'm NOT a teacher, I'm not pretending to know what they want like the rest of you are.

You’ve argued many times that you doubt they’re leaving because of behavior problems in the classroom. How would you know that if you’re not a teacher? You have no room to promote OR doubt a suggestion if you’re not a teacher. You don’t get to play both sides.

And you've argued the contrary point with zero knowledge of your own. What's the difference? I'm not playing "both" sides. I'm saying that you're not qualified to play their side because you don't know what you're talking about and that you clearly have your own biases and agenda that has nothing to do with them. In other words. we're equally clueless but only one of us is willing to admit that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a sped teacher in an inclusion class and I tend to agree with the PP that says inclusion is driving people away. We are rarely given the tools to do it successfully. The current plan to increase inclusion is going to drive more people away. As a SPED teacher you basically sign up to put yourself in danger (and that’s messed up too) gen Ed teachers don’t make that decision.

What is inclusion?

[Anonymous]

400 openings, is this typical?

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