FCPS retroactively denying pay raises

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, teachers want a $2000 raise for paying $50 for a useless course? That’s crazy!

If they took 20 credits’ worth, it would have cost $1,000.

That said, the courses are BS. I’m sorry teachers wasted their time in what seemed like a sweet deal, and I don’t blame them for trying, but I also don’t blame FCPS for seeing through what a joke they were

How does a university offer quality coursework for so little? How do they pay their professors? How do the professors grade and offer feedback and interact with the students?

No continuing education course for educators offers interaction. I took some at UVA and they were a joke "fully online and able to complete in a few weeks".
https://education.virginia.edu/academics/professional-learner

Idaho State is probably going to conduct research on these responses. Maybe they just wanted to be nice and help teachers by making classes affordable. FCPS can't just change the rules, especially since they already approved teachers months ago.

[Anonymous]

How is it graduate level coursework if there is no interaction or grading?

[Anonymous]

Wait, so these classes for teachers are literally just like, click though the slideshows on your own time? There's no actual professor or graded papers or tests?

Now at least i know where their teachers got all their ideas for waste of time non-educational google slides.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so these classes for teachers are literally just like, click though the slideshows on your own time? There's no actual professor or graded papers or tests?

Now at least i know where their teachers got all their ideas for waste of time non-educational google slides.

Yep. Maybe FCPS will stop taking credits from diploma mills like UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so these classes for teachers are literally just like, click though the slideshows on your own time? There's no actual professor or graded papers or tests?

Now at least i know where their teachers got all their ideas for waste of time non-educational google slides.

It’s student-directed asynchronous learning. If it was good enough for our kids, it should be good enough for the teachers.

[Anonymous]

I do not see the point at all in paying teachers to get masters degrees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so these classes for teachers are literally just like, click though the slideshows on your own time? There's no actual professor or graded papers or tests?

Now at least i know where their teachers got all their ideas for waste of time non-educational google slides.

It’s student-directed asynchronous learning. If it was good enough for our kids, it should be good enough for the teachers.

So your kid did an ENTIRE course asynchronously? There was never a day where the teacher was instructing live? Tells us what school this was where this happened. What grade level. I’m fascinated to find out where this happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so these classes for teachers are literally just like, click though the slideshows on your own time? There's no actual professor or graded papers or tests?

Now at least i know where their teachers got all their ideas for waste of time non-educational google slides.

Yep. Maybe FCPS will stop taking credits from diploma mills like UVA.

At $550+ per credit, I’d hardly call UVA a diploma mill. The Idaho school is charging $55 per credit. THAT is a diploma mill. FCPS is correct in only accepting half a credit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not see the point at all in paying teachers to get masters degrees.

They don’t pay you to get the degree, they pay you more if you have the degree. Plenty of industries do this.

[Anonymous]

Yes this a real issue based on what I’m reading in the teacher group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so these classes for teachers are literally just like, click though the slideshows on your own time? There's no actual professor or graded papers or tests?

Now at least i know where their teachers got all their ideas for waste of time non-educational google slides.

Yep. Maybe FCPS will stop taking credits from diploma mills like UVA.

At $550+ per credit, I’d hardly call UVA a diploma mill. The Idaho school is charging $55 per credit. THAT is a diploma mill. FCPS is correct in only accepting half a credit.

So the price is what determines it? I've taken those continuing education courses at UVA and barely did any work. Why is FCPS accepting full credit from UVA but not Idaho State? What regulation is this based on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not see the point at all in paying teachers to get masters degrees.

They don’t pay you to get the degree, they pay you more if you have the degree. Plenty of industries do this.

Yes, people with higher degrees are paid more *because ostensibly, the additional education makes them better at their jobs*. You can't offer a quality educational product for $50/credit hour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so these classes for teachers are literally just like, click though the slideshows on your own time? There's no actual professor or graded papers or tests?

Now at least i know where their teachers got all their ideas for waste of time non-educational google slides.

It’s student-directed asynchronous learning. If it was good enough for our kids, it should be good enough for the teachers.

But it....wasn't good enough for the kids so...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes this a real issue based on what I’m reading in the teacher group.

That Facebook group? I had to leave that toxic cesspool ages ago. Nothing but the same whiners over and over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so these classes for teachers are literally just like, click though the slideshows on your own time? There's no actual professor or graded papers or tests?

Now at least i know where their teachers got all their ideas for waste of time non-educational google slides.

It’s student-directed asynchronous learning. If it was good enough for our kids, it should be good enough for the teachers.

So your kid did an ENTIRE course asynchronously? There was never a day where the teacher was instructing live? Tells us what school this was where this happened. What grade level. I’m fascinated to find out where this happened.

Yes, my child is in an FCPS special ed placement. His school has NO academics, so FCPS puts him in garbage "asynchronous" online self-paced classes.

I am glad we agree that full time, live, in person instruction is required for a quality education.