FCPS retroactively denying pay raises

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait, teachers want a $2000 raise for paying $50 for a useless course? That’s crazy!

If they took 20 credits’ worth, it would have cost $1,000.

That said, the courses are BS. I’m sorry teachers wasted their time in what seemed like a sweet deal, and I don’t blame them for trying, but I also don’t blame FCPS for seeing through what a joke they were

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, teachers want a $2000 raise for paying $50 for a useless course? That’s crazy!

If they took 20 credits’ worth, it would have cost $1,000.

That said, the courses are BS. I’m sorry teachers wasted their time in what seemed like a sweet deal, and I don’t blame them for trying, but I also don’t blame FCPS for seeing through what a joke they were

FCPS is accepting the credits, just a half credit for each unit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, teachers want a $2000 raise for paying $50 for a useless course? That’s crazy!

If they took 20 credits’ worth, it would have cost $1,000.

That said, the courses are BS. I’m sorry teachers wasted their time in what seemed like a sweet deal, and I don’t blame them for trying, but I also don’t blame FCPS for seeing through what a joke they were

They're not "trying". They were simply following state guidelines.

[Anonymous]

I’m a teacher and I looked into taking the courses as the pay bump would really help. Honestly, let’s be clear: they aren’t real graduate courses. Having just finished a really grueling graduate program, it was kind of annoying to think of people getting credit for essentially just keeping a log of new stuff they did in COVID.

On the other hand, teachers do deserve credit for the massive professional development undertaking during COVID. As recertification hours at least. I’m really really sorry teachers wasted their time but anyone who actually “took” the classes had to admit they weren’t actually classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the pay difference?

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY22-teacher-194-day.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I looked into taking the courses as the pay bump would really help. Honestly, let’s be clear: they aren’t real graduate courses. Having just finished a really grueling graduate program, it was kind of annoying to think of people getting credit for essentially just keeping a log of new stuff they did in COVID.

On the other hand, teachers do deserve credit for the massive professional development undertaking during COVID. As recertification hours at least. I’m really really sorry teachers wasted their time but anyone who actually “took” the classes had to admit they weren’t actually classes.

Why is FCPS even giving them half credit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone knows these online classes are BS. If we are paying more for teachers with higher education, that's because the expectation is those teachers will be stronger educators.

They shouldn't accept this BS from these fake schools. No one is becoming a better educator and learning valuable skills from a $50 per credit hour diploma mill.

+1
It is a waste of FCPS money to toss more at teachers just for doing a low quality online program. This is pointless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I looked into taking the courses as the pay bump would really help. Honestly, let’s be clear: they aren’t real graduate courses. Having just finished a really grueling graduate program, it was kind of annoying to think of people getting credit for essentially just keeping a log of new stuff they did in COVID.

On the other hand, teachers do deserve credit for the massive professional development undertaking during COVID. As recertification hours at least. I’m really really sorry teachers wasted their time but anyone who actually “took” the classes had to admit they weren’t actually classes.

Why is FCPS even giving them half credit?

Because the university is accredited. Maybe it shouldn't be, but neither should a lot of other questionable "universities". Posters on this board have been saying over and over again that if you're going to go for an Ed degree, go to the cheapest possible school. These teachers did that to get their +30.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I looked into taking the courses as the pay bump would really help. Honestly, let’s be clear: they aren’t real graduate courses. Having just finished a really grueling graduate program, it was kind of annoying to think of people getting credit for essentially just keeping a log of new stuff they did in COVID.

On the other hand, teachers do deserve credit for the massive professional development undertaking during COVID. As recertification hours at least. I’m really really sorry teachers wasted their time but anyone who actually “took” the classes had to admit they weren’t actually classes.

Why is FCPS even giving them half credit?

Because the university is accredited. Maybe it shouldn't be, but neither should a lot of other questionable "universities". Posters on this board have been saying over and over again that if you're going to go for an Ed degree, go to the cheapest possible school. These teachers did that to get their +30.

Why are they denying a full credit if the regulations say you have to accept credits from accredited universities? Are they going to start reviewing all classes from all universities?

[Anonymous]

You guys are making it sound like Idaho State University is some type of Strayer University. It's an accredited state school, just like a Radford, Virginia Tech or Old Dominion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I looked into taking the courses as the pay bump would really help. Honestly, let’s be clear: they aren’t real graduate courses. Having just finished a really grueling graduate program, it was kind of annoying to think of people getting credit for essentially just keeping a log of new stuff they did in COVID.

On the other hand, teachers do deserve credit for the massive professional development undertaking during COVID. As recertification hours at least. I’m really really sorry teachers wasted their time but anyone who actually “took” the classes had to admit they weren’t actually classes.

Why is FCPS even giving them half credit?

Because the university is accredited. Maybe it shouldn't be, but neither should a lot of other questionable "universities". Posters on this board have been saying over and over again that if you're going to go for an Ed degree, go to the cheapest possible school. These teachers did that to get their +30.

Why are they denying a full credit if the regulations say you have to accept credits from accredited universities? Are they going to start reviewing all classes from all universities?

Because if you read the transcript key from the university, it says that each course should be counted as a half credit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I looked into taking the courses as the pay bump would really help. Honestly, let’s be clear: they aren’t real graduate courses. Having just finished a really grueling graduate program, it was kind of annoying to think of people getting credit for essentially just keeping a log of new stuff they did in COVID.

On the other hand, teachers do deserve credit for the massive professional development undertaking during COVID. As recertification hours at least. I’m really really sorry teachers wasted their time but anyone who actually “took” the classes had to admit they weren’t actually classes.

Why is FCPS even giving them half credit?

Because the university is accredited. Maybe it shouldn't be, but neither should a lot of other questionable "universities". Posters on this board have been saying over and over again that if you're going to go for an Ed degree, go to the cheapest possible school. These teachers did that to get their +30.

Why are they denying a full credit if the regulations say you have to accept credits from accredited universities? Are they going to start reviewing all classes from all universities?

Because if you read the transcript key from the university, it says that each course should be counted as a half credit.

But that is not what it says. It says it's only .5 credits in states that require 30 hours per semester credit, Virginia does not.

This is what the transcript key says

"All professional development courses are graduate level, non-degree, semester credits. Each credit represents 15 clock hours or .5 semester hours (in states where semester hours require 30 contact hours) or 15 PDPs or 15 PDUs or 1.5 CEUs/15 OPI renewal units. They are transcribed as graduate level semester credits."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and I looked into taking the courses as the pay bump would really help. Honestly, let’s be clear: they aren’t real graduate courses. Having just finished a really grueling graduate program, it was kind of annoying to think of people getting credit for essentially just keeping a log of new stuff they did in COVID.

On the other hand, teachers do deserve credit for the massive professional development undertaking during COVID. As recertification hours at least. I’m really really sorry teachers wasted their time but anyone who actually “took” the classes had to admit they weren’t actually classes.

Why is FCPS even giving them half credit?

Because the university is accredited. Maybe it shouldn't be, but neither should a lot of other questionable "universities". Posters on this board have been saying over and over again that if you're going to go for an Ed degree, go to the cheapest possible school. These teachers did that to get their +30.

Why are they denying a full credit if the regulations say you have to accept credits from accredited universities? Are they going to start reviewing all classes from all universities?

Because if you read the transcript key from the university, it says that each course should be counted as a half credit.

But that is not what it says. It says it's only .5 credits in states that require 30 hours per semester credit, Virginia does not.

This is what the transcript key says

"All professional development courses are graduate level, non-degree, semester credits. Each credit represents 15 clock hours or .5 semester hours (in states where semester hours require 30 contact hours) or 15 PDPs or 15 PDUs or 1.5 CEUs/15 OPI renewal units. They are transcribed as graduate level semester credits."

Yep. Pay up, FCPS. If they were only going accept credits from certain places, they should’ve made that very clear ahead of time. This is probably not a fight worth having when we have so many open positions right now.

[Anonymous]

So what were the classes?

If it's a real school like Va Tech--how does it have acceptable coursework for such a low price?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait, teachers want a $2000 raise for paying $50 for a useless course? That’s crazy!

If they took 20 credits’ worth, it would have cost $1,000.

That said, the courses are BS. I’m sorry teachers wasted their time in what seemed like a sweet deal, and I don’t blame them for trying, but I also don’t blame FCPS for seeing through what a joke they were

How does a university offer quality coursework for so little? How do they pay their professors? How do the professors grade and offer feedback and interact with the students?