This was in the 80's so I'm sure things have changed. At least I hope they have. I live in NW DC now. |
Why don’t you explain that a little bit for us? I’m the pp POC that lived here since the 90s and I’ve never seen or felt any negative vibes. Walk-through town, go to school events, Olney Days and you will see how diverse Olney is. What I’m not going to deny is that someone may have experienced racism, but that is not exclusive to Olney. That happens in Gaithersburg, Germantown, Silver Spring and even Takoma Park and it happens in every single MCPS school. |
| Agree that racism is not exclusive to Olney. I’ve lived in Olney for 13 years and have kids in schools here. May not be the most diverse in the county, but there are families of many different backgrounds. |
Yes, I'd love to. When I say "Country Club" vibe, I mean that, yes, people will be nice in your face because who would be dumb enough to utter the n-word in your presence. However, the second they get home, the second they see BIPOC moving in somewhere/congregating/what have you, they hop on the neighborhood listserve talking about " those people" who want to "bring down property values" or "destroy the integrity and character of our neighborhood". Very coded language, and they only work with minorities when they have to. A town that is ~70% White, according to Wikipedia, isn't going to be a very healthy climate. I'm not saying racism is exclusive to Olney, but I'm saying that out of the news we see from clusters historically, they're always up there in terms of trouble. |
I'm no Olney fan and I don't live there but everything you said there can be applied to Bethesda and Potomac. As a Black person, I have gotten more "looks" in Bethesada, CC than in Olney. Olney is 61% white while Bethesa is 72% white and CC is over 80%. These two places are definitely not healthy climate. |
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Forgot to post the links https://www.city-data.com/city/Olney-Maryland.html http://www.city-data.com/city/Bethesda-Maryland.html |
Understood. But again, the thing that makes it worse in Olney is that it's very self-contained and more rural, which enhances the feeling even more. Dare I say I'd rather live in Bethesda and CC than Olney as the former 2, in my experience have more understanding people from what I've seen. I know that Sherwood (at least for me personally if I'm raising kids), is a no-go. OP should look into Blake, PB, and other clusters. Case closed. |
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The alleged racist incident involving a girls sporting event was proven to be a lie. The Einstein student eventually recanted. Unfortunately, the damage was done thanks to the media coverage. The schools opted to not clear up the situation publicly because they thought revisiting the situation would make it worse.
Now Dcumlandia continues to perpetuate the false stereotype of Sherwood and Olney being racist. Sigh. |
Who do you think lives in Olney? Rural? Most of us work in dc or MoCo. The thing about Olney is that it was rural pre-1970s…and thus wasn’t a good location for low-income housing or apartment complexes. The end result: not a lot of low-income people or renters out here. That’s a fact But it isn’t rural. It does have a small town vibe, but so does Kensington. In many ways, Kensington and Olney are a lot alike. |
There were multiple incidents, not just one. |
There were allegedly 2. Both were linked to girls sports. And the allegedly “worse” one was eventually recanted. The other was never actually substantiated. PS - google the swastika and other racist incidents that were grounded in fact that happened at mcps high schools that Dcumlandia holds up as better than Sherwood. PPS - pretty sure both the prom king and queen at Sherwood this year were black. Tell which legit country club kids were voted in at your inner burb mcps high school. |
Voting a Black prom king and queen doesn't mean a community still isn't racist. What a reach that echoes the old "my sister in law's third cousin removed is Black" type of concept. After all, this generation for the most part is more open to DEI, whilst it's the dinosaur older folks who oppose affordable housing mixed in with libraries, or didn't want 4 schools including Sherwood in the Northeast Consortium because it would set the stage for a WJ/Einstein/B-CC/Whitman consortium later on, or a Blair/Kennedy/Northwood/Wheaton consortium. |
Labeling is never appropriate. Period. Labeling the entire Sherwood area as racist is absurd. Harkening back decades ago to make your case based on a school boundary/structure debate is hilarious. I mean, the fancy pants folks down county go bananas whenever mcps boundary discussions are discussed today in 2022! If you lived here, you would realize that Olney is a bit far flung and has a traffic issue on Georgia Avenue. In short: it would easily be an hour long commute to some of the proposed consortium schools during bus times. In fact, I know dozens of families who opted to forgo magnets and gifted programs precisely because they didn’t want their kid on a bus or in a car pool for ridiculous commutes. Re: housing - Olney has affordable housing through the county’s mpdu program (just like the rest of the county). What we don’t have are an over-abundance of rentals because Olney used to be considered too remote for commuters. ICYMI: the bill of apartments and rentals that serve lower income people are clustered in the lower east portion of the county. You can thank your county council for protecting the west side (Potomac, Bethesda, CC, etc.) from diversity several decades ago (and for whatever reason…ahem, racism…they continue to do so even today despite the data and research that proves that low income bipoc kids have better test scores and outcomes in west county schools than east county school; google the blind moco study on homeless families as a good starting point). Guess what? Everyone is welcome in Olney, and you don’t need a million bucks to buy a home here! Most of us purposely moved here to get away from the Joneses and tiger moms stretching or flexing to buy in a W school or going the private school route in SS (or betting on magnets and moving or going private if that didn’t pan out). What’s the saying? If a tree falls in the forest but nobody is around to hear it, does it make a noise? Well, if you plant a BLM sign in your front yard in your segregated down county or west county neighborhood but no/or few bipoc families actually live there and read it, why are you labeling Olney as racist? After all, we know the real reason you people don’t live here is because of the commute…it’s definitely not because of affordability. |
Olney is not rural. Have you ever been there or sat in traffic on Georgia Ave or ridden the bus? I have lived there for 10 years. It's just bizarre to me that people on this thread believe people in Olney are just gunning to say the n-word. Very out of touch with reality. Also much of the discussion of Olney on this board has a classist element to it. White people who live in Olney don't have as much money as people who live in W clusters (maybe true in some cases maybe not in others), therefore they must be racist white trash Trumpers from a "rural" area. This is a common theme on this forum. |
+1. Yes, if you live segregated with whites and Asians in Potomac, Bethesda, or Chevy Chase, it is easy to put a BLM sign in your lawn and call people who live in Olney racist while you secretly know you will oppose any integration of W schools that bring in more diversity or lower your property value. And if you think going to some school that is 50%+ FARM is diversity, it's not. It's segregation. Olney is one of the few places in the county that is still relatively affordable and has a mix of families. |